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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:25 pm

Yomiel wrote:The attention SHOULD be on me right now, while there is still time. And putting someone on ignore only hurts the game as a whole.


Ok. Attention on you. There is still one question you haven't answered. You said that the mafia were being obvious. Wen I asked you who they were, you said you didn't want a repeat of NCIS. That game resulted in your D1 lynch. So it seems you DO want a repeat of that.

Now, I ask you again: who are the mafia that are being so obvious?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:37 pm

I wasn't talking about the lynch, but the drama. No matter who I say is Mafia, there are certain players that will twist my logic and harass me over it. I don't want that mess to start up here again, especially since I'm the one that will be blamed regardless.

But since you are so insistent, I'd say Vodean is acting like obvious Mafia. He is trying way too hard to get the focus away from me and keep me from being lynched, which is especially weird when you consider his strong dislike for me and desire to see me killed off in every game we play together.

Spiesr also stands out to me, as an active player who has yet to vote me, if I recall. He even said he would have been willing to cast the final vote, yet even though he was online during the time when I only needed one more vote against me-and I even suggested he do it,-he did not. Even now, he seems to think I should be lynched, yet has not voted for me.

Crazy stands out as well. He seems to be for voting me and wants to cast the final vote, claiming he has a plan. Then he doesn't. Then he does. Then he doesn't again. And his reasons for his frequent mind changes never make sense.

I'm also watching / very carefully.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:49 pm

Yomiel wrote:Crazy stands out as well. He seems to be for voting me and wants to cast the final vote, claiming he has a plan. Then he doesn't. Then he does. Then he doesn't again. And his reasons for his frequent mind changes never make sense.

Question. When the hell did i say that i didnt have a plan?!
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby spiesr on Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:52 pm

Yomiel wrote:With alignments being decided at random, the host had to have created everyone's roles very carefully.
Since the mod specifically said that the game may not be balanced, I don't think this point stands.
vodean wrote:i presented an AWFUL case to gauge reactions...
Somehow I don't really believe that you planned it that way.
shieldgenerator7 wrote:Vodean sheeped saf earlier in the game after previously stating he wouldn't vote yomiel, and now he's sheeping edoc. VOTE VODEAN
And now you are following Jak...
Yomiel wrote:I already told you all I'm Town, and you're falling right into the Mafia's hands if you don't kill me. if they've figured out a way to block my ability or counter it, they could easily do that to make it look like I'm lying. The host wouldn't tell me if my role could be interfered with. If I don't die this during this first Day, you guys really have no idea just how badly you will be screwed.
If the scum manage the block your kill in an attempt to make us think you are lying then we would have to kill you for lying. So you would die, and the nobody will have been killed by you. Wouldn't that be exactly what you want anyway?
Yomiel wrote:No matter who I say is Mafia, there are certain players that will twist my logic and harass me over it. I don't want that mess to start up here again, especially since I'm the one that will be blamed regardless.
You are pretty much just going to have to get over that sentiment if you wish to continue playing mafia. If you are too afraid of what people will say in response to state your thoughts and suspicions then you aren't really able to do anything worthwhile in a game.
Yomiel wrote:Spiesr also stands out to me, as an active player who has yet to vote me, if I recall. He even said he would have been willing to cast the final vote, yet even though he was online during the time when I only needed one more vote against me-and I even suggested he do it,-he did not.
Please remind me what page that was on.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:54 pm

I'm pretty sure we have a vig this game. If they want to, they can shoot Yomiel tonight.

Man, two bandwagons in a row by vodean as opposed to only one by Shaggy. Granted we haven't had too many cases, but your reasons for voting have been pretty terrible vodean. I don't understand why you would deliberately use bad logic to justify a vote. I mean, I think if you used better logic, you could still vote the person and see who jumps on with you.

unvote vote vodean

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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:18 pm

Crazy, if you have a plan, let's see it. Carry on with lynching me.

I don't recall the page, spiesr.

Did you miss what I said? Something bad will happen if I'm not killed Day 1.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby vodean on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:45 pm

safariguy5 wrote:I'm pretty sure we have a vig this game. If they want to, they can shoot Yomiel tonight.

Man, two bandwagons in a row by vodean as opposed to only one by Shaggy. Granted we haven't had too many cases, but your reasons for voting have been pretty terrible vodean. I don't understand why you would deliberately use bad logic to justify a vote. I mean, I think if you used better logic, you could still vote the person and see who jumps on with you.

unvote vote vodean

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ok.... i made a really bad case intentionally... to gauge reactions and try to get a sense of where to actually build cases. it worked, when SD jumped on. i expected some outrage, some disbelief, some votes on me. this agreement was a shocker. if shaggy wanted to pursue a case, at that point it should have been me. believe me or not, but when you present more evidence, that is hopefully less WIFOM, i will be able to present a better defense. for now, im rolling with this.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:22 pm

There's another great reason to lynch me-it may be the only way to save yourself.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby pancakemix on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:31 pm

Suddenly, a voice bellowed out of the blue:

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I can't take it anymore. Yomiel is bungling up any chance we have of finding anything useful. While the Vodean case has some small merit, I can't focus on it for the consistent petty play of Yomiel.

I know it's what he wants. I know he has ulterior motives. But I can't stand his terrible play in this game. He is probably third party or mafia with some crazy reward as being the first one lynched. At this point I don't care...just make it stop! Best case scenario is that he is the jester, we lynch him, and the game is over.

Vote Yomiel

I have only a few posts left, which is why I waited so long to cast a vote, to see if anything else would come up. It's very unlikely that I'll unvote, unless something titanic comes up.

Oh, umm... "Snootchie Bootchies."

Neb"
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby edocsil on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:33 pm

pancakemix wrote:Suddenly, a voice bellowed out of the blue:

Day 1. Post #5

"I'm trying to focus on other things, but it is soooooo hard to do that when something keeps banging stuff and making a racket in the background. I've tried stuffing cotton in my ears, and still the noise gets louder!

It's like having an annoying 6 year old following me around saying, "Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me? Will you play with me?"

I can't take it anymore. Yomiel is bungling up any chance we have of finding anything useful. While the Vodean case has some small merit, I can't focus on it for the consistent petty play of Yomiel.

I know it's what he wants. I know he has ulterior motives. But I can't stand his terrible play in this game. He is probably third party or mafia with some crazy reward as being the first one lynched. At this point I don't care...just make it stop! Best case scenario is that he is the jester, we lynch him, and the game is over.

Vote Yomiel

I have only a few posts left, which is why I waited so long to cast a vote, to see if anything else would come up. It's very unlikely that I'll unvote, unless something titanic comes up.

Oh, umm... "Snootchie Bootchies."

Neb"


Neb, I think we are going to shoot for killing in the night.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby spiesr on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:36 pm

edocsil wrote:Neb, I think we are going to shoot for killing in the night.
How confident are you that we will have someone capable of killing?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby edocsil on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:45 pm

spiesr wrote:
edocsil wrote:Neb, I think we are going to shoot for killing in the night.
How confident are you that we will have someone capable of killing?


16 custom picked roles. Someone picked thing with a gun, knife, sword, or something. I bet the biggest issue was how to prevent them from all having a kill.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:55 pm

Even if such a role exists, can you guarantee they will target me? Who knows which alignment they got or what their win condition is. Besides, something unknown-but-bad will happen if I don't die Day 1.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:00 pm

Yomiel wrote:Even if such a role exists, can you guarantee they will target me? Who knows which alignment they got or what their win condition is. Besides, something unknown-but-bad will happen if I don't die Day 1.

How do you know something bad will happen? Maybe you'll hit mafia and not town. There are very few things that are certain in mafia, and I'm not convinced you're action is going to be all bad.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:09 pm

That's what the host said. I just misunderstood it as part of the whole thing about killing someone each Day I'm left alive. But I got him to clarify it, and he meant something else. I don't know what, but he says something else bad will happen if I'm not lynched by Day 1, and it may not be something obvious...
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:16 pm

Even if you're willing to risk losing up to five players in one turn, are you going to risk being affected by this unknown ability?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:28 pm

Yes.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:30 pm

BTW (which in this case stands for BlaTant bandWagon)

Vote vodean

Yomiel, just trust me on this one. If you would stop screaming and calm down this game might actually be fun.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:34 pm

I can't. There's much more at stake here than you realize. I need to die this phase.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby pancakemix on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:02 am

DoomYoshi wrote:BTW (which in this case stands for BlaTant bandWagon)


Worst. Acronym. Ever.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:18 am

Yomiel wrote:I can't. There's much more at stake here than you realize. I need to die this phase.

I highly doubt that we are going to lose if we don't kill you Day 1. If nothing more than a curiosity for what exactly your ability does, I'm willing to at least wait until Night. If it really is a detriment to town, I'm pretty sure we can deal with it either Night 1 or Day 2.

I'm just having a hard time believing that Town is going to be severely crippled by not lynching the right person on Day 1. Especially since you can't (or aren't) telling us exactly what this bad thing is especially since:
Yomiel wrote:That's what the host said. I just misunderstood it as part of the whole thing about killing someone each Day I'm left alive. But I got him to clarify it, and he meant something else. I don't know what, but he says something else bad will happen if I'm not lynched by Day 1, and it may not be something obvious...

You say the mod says it's apparently not "people dying every day" bad. Which is honestly the worst thing I can think of short of giving mafia extra night kills or something that would be extremely broken even IF this game is slightly unbalanced.

Call it morbid curiosity if you must, but the more you talk about these "bad consequences" the more I'm willing to give it extra phases to see if there's some hidden application that we can use to survive/catch scum.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:30 am

I'm not willing to risk it. There's a lot I can't say, so no one realizes just how important it to kill me during this Day. You may not have enough proof, but you have to trust me on this.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:41 am

Yomiel wrote:I'm not willing to risk it. There's a lot I can't say, so no one realizes just how important it to kill me during this Day. You may not have enough proof, but you have to trust me on this.

YOUR NOT GOING TO GET LYNCHED!!! STOP!!! FOR F***'S SAKE!!!

Damn son. I am having no fun at all with all of your bitching.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby Yomiel on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:43 am

It's called "playing". I need to get lynched this first Day. Not doing so will hurt the Town. So I am going to keep pushing, because that is what is best for the Town, and I'm not planning on losing or being responsible for giving the Mafia an advantage. You guys demanded I answer question after question, and I answered them all.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [16/16] D1: A Gathering

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:50 am

ok. we get that you need to be lynched D1, not gonna happen. please post something of actual use.

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