Commander9 wrote:In case it is really hard for people to read between the lines, I can confirm that I am Johanna.
I also confirm that he is my lover.
Unvote vote jonty
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Commander9 wrote:In case it is really hard for people to read between the lines, I can confirm that I am Johanna.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
jonty125 wrote:May I ask how is lynching me good for town?
Commander9 wrote:jonty125 wrote:May I ask how is lynching me good for town?
People are not buying your claim... I'm not buying it either, but I don't really buy Haggis' claim either. We should also consider that another strong fake claim was provided and somone is lying here.
safariguy5 wrote:Well here are the connected roles.
Com9 and naxus- lovers
Sax and Shaggy- Toby and Pirelli.
And jonty Haggis and Vio are apparently unaffiliated VT's. Out of those three, jonty is the most obscure VT. If we find out he is a VT, I'd look hard at Sax and Shaggy, as Miller claim for Pirelli is very easily a scum trying to set up a a fakeclaim in case of investigation. I'm willing to consider lynching Sax on the off chance he's lying about Toby.
Commander9 wrote:safariguy5 wrote:Well here are the connected roles.
Com9 and naxus- lovers
Sax and Shaggy- Toby and Pirelli.
And jonty Haggis and Vio are apparently unaffiliated VT's. Out of those three, jonty is the most obscure VT. If we find out he is a VT, I'd look hard at Sax and Shaggy, as Miller claim for Pirelli is very easily a scum trying to set up a a fakeclaim in case of investigation. I'm willing to consider lynching Sax on the off chance he's lying about Toby.
I'm personally actually would prefer to kill Sax, then jony, then Haggis. I feel somewhat secure about others.
VioIet wrote:I already subtly claimed earlier, but I guess everyone missed it.
I am a London Priest.
TheSaxlad wrote:@Safariguy, how many times are you going to vote hop, from me (then I provided a solid claim) to jonty (who didnt),then to me etc. I know he claims to be town cop... but really, no one needs to vote hop that much.
Anyway what with pirelli claimed you know I am town so its worth going off after the actual scum rather than me. Which we figured out two pages ago...
ShaggyDan wrote:Hey guys, just got back from V/LA.
Thoughts:
Looking at the set-up we have from claims; it looks more likely for there to be a 2 person mafia rather than a 3 person mafia.
Assuming we have 3 mafia it means we have 2 alive at the moment. For a ratio of 6:2. This means we are in mylo.
Assuming we have 2 mafia it means we have 1 alive at the moment for a ratio of 7:1. This means we have 2 myslynches. The one mafia left alive is left down to 3 (or 4) people.
I personally think there were only 2 mafia (town was pretty nerfed with lovers, a hated cop, a miller and a recruitable), though I won't discount the idea there are 3.
In the case of Sax, I don't think scum would fakeclaim a role that could possibly be recruited. If he were scum and there was no Pirelli claimed or Pirelli got killed somehow then he would have been next. Though I would also like to say; there was no indication there was a Toby in my role PM, so it could have been a lucky fish (I doubt it).
I buy the lovers claim. I don't think mafia would have been given such a strong fakeclaim. More than likely they got fakeclaims of one character from the movie, and one VT.
TLDR; I think we should lynch one of the claimed VT's, though I am wary of the possibility of a 3-person mafia.
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
VioIet wrote:jonty125 wrote:safariguy5 wrote:First of all, I will unvote pending a counterclaim.
Reupdating the list.
1. Sweeney Todd- Probaby SKer
2. Mrs. Lovett- Pie maker per game mechanic, could be masoned with Sweeney Todd
3. Toby- Not sure...
4. Pirelli- Could be locator, looking for Todd
5. Judge Turpin- Me, Hated Town Cop
6. Beadle Bamford- edocsil (claimed) Hated Town Vig
7. Beggar woman/Lucy- claimed by DoomYoshi, pies gave random night actions, could be insane, Town Watcher
8. Anthony Hope- Lover, claimed by naxus
9. Johanna- essentially claimed by Com9, probable lover
10. Fogg- Could be jailkeeper
11. Royal Marine- Victor Sullivan, Town Roleblocker lynched.Mr.S wrote:there will be a few VTs
Why do you keep forgetting this part?
I have certainly not forgotten it. In fact, there is a constant reminder.
I cannot speak for others however.
Now- if saf did indeed list all the characters in the movie that will be in this game (i have no clue as i didn't read the book or watch the movie), then which one could be VT.
Only role I see left on the list is Toby, plus the four people that are unaccounted for.
ShaggyDan wrote:I would rather try for a VT today then lynch Sax if I die during the night. If we believe in a two person mafia then we have a 1/3 chance of ending this now. Just because no-one has claimed Doctor doesn't mean there isn't one out. I don't think the doctor would stick their head out.
Though I guess the safer option is to lynch him. If he flips town-toby we know there is only 1 maf left in the VT's. Which will leave us with a ratio of 5:1 after a NK, with at least 2 confirmed town still alive.
With it being possibly mylo if there are 2 scum I guess this is the safest option... though if the lovers are pulling a fast one on us and are really 2 scum it will be a fairly lack lustre finish.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
naxus wrote:Unvote
Tonight seems like the night for mafia to try any gambits. Tommorow feels like lylo situation. Lets hope that we make the right decision
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
jonty125 wrote:ShaggyDan wrote:I would rather try for a VT today then lynch Sax if I die during the night. If we believe in a two person mafia then we have a 1/3 chance of ending this now. Just because no-one has claimed Doctor doesn't mean there isn't one out. I don't think the doctor would stick their head out.
Though I guess the safer option is to lynch him. If he flips town-toby we know there is only 1 maf left in the VT's. Which will leave us with a ratio of 5:1 after a NK, with at least 2 confirmed town still alive.
With it being possibly mylo if there are 2 scum I guess this is the safest option... though if the lovers are pulling a fast one on us and are really 2 scum it will be a fairly lack lustre finish.
Why would the mafia want to kill you as you will be 'recruited' to them if one of their number is lynched.
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
safariguy5 wrote:Well, obviously Sax lied about his role, making Shaggy's claim unlikely to be true either.
vote ShaggyDan
Mr. Squirrel wrote:The town noticed the small boy who had been running errands for the demon barber. Although the young lad hadn't known it, he had been secretly helping in the mass murder of many civilians. When he was arrested, the boy pleaded his innocence. He knew nothing about the barber or Mrs. Lovett's pies. However, Judge Turpin still gave him the guilty result and had him lynched.
Thesaxlad - Tobias Ragg (innocent mafia goon) has been lynched!
ShaggyDan wrote:safariguy5 wrote:Well, obviously Sax lied about his role, making Shaggy's claim unlikely to be true either.
vote ShaggyDan
You're mighty quick to jump to conclusions. Might I remind you that I was the one that got the Edocsil bandwagon back on track when people were ready to stop voting for him. Also if you look at the scene it is possible Toby was telling the truth about his role:Mr. Squirrel wrote:The town noticed the small boy who had been running errands for the demon barber. Although the young lad hadn't known it, he had been secretly helping in the mass murder of many civilians. When he was arrested, the boy pleaded his innocence. He knew nothing about the barber or Mrs. Lovett's pies. However, Judge Turpin still gave him the guilty result and had him lynched.
Thesaxlad - Tobias Ragg (innocent mafia goon) has been lynched!
The line states he knew nothing. What exactly is an 'innocent mafia goon'? The text is red, so obviously we did a good thing by lynching him. But I still think it's entirely possible that 'innocent mafia goon' means that he can't talk or decide with the others until Pirelli dies.
So let's look at where we are now:
ShaggyDan - Pirelli - Miller
SafariGuy - Turpin - Hated Cop
Com9 - Johanna - Lover
Naxus - Anthony - Lover
Violet - Priest - VT
Haggis - Lawyer - VT
Jonty - Actor - VT
I think the lovers are cleared, I can't believe that there would be a 4 person mafia. I have a case I want to make but I'll let some people get their thoughts in for the start of day.
Also Saf, do you have a report from last night?
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