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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:01 pm

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serbia (4) - ga7, AceArtemis, colton, victor
aage (2) - strike wolf, sensfan
Victor (1) - serbia

6 to lynch
Deadline in approximately 48 hours

keep up the discussion you guys. Prodding fircoal. From now on I will just modkill the any deadbeaters. There have been waaaay too many replacements in this game.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby strike wolf on Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:06 pm

Serbia wrote:UNVOTE
VOTE: Victor


That was about the most useless bandwagon vote I've ever seen.

I'm Gambit, town power booster. At night, I get to choose a player to "charge". The effect will be random, could protect a player, block them, etc.
First night, I targeted Edocsil. Apparently that caused him to be busdriven with aage. Weird.
So on the second night, I decided to target aage directly. My effect on that one was an investigative answer. aage is third party schizophrenic. He gets an action at night, but has no idea what the effect will be. (my guess then is that he may have targeted lalaland, seeing as he ended up dead)

Now, I'd been tempted to vote aage, but getting rid of him really isn't going to help town at all, because we need to get rid of mafia, not third party - which really is the only reason I haven't voted him. (and right now it would help me to vote him too, seeing as he's in 2nd to be lynched) But I don't think it's the best move right now, based on what I've learned.

So guys, don't lynch me. I don't know what effect I'll have going forward, but would sure be nice to get a chance to find out, eh?!


I skimmed back through day 2 and given what's been said. I believe Serbia. A schizophrenic role makes sense for aage after going back to where he mentioned that he was redirected to sleep with Edocsil he also said that he did not mean to sleep with anyone. Points to random ability. Secondly, third party does sound like a possible explanation for the odd behavior. The rest of serbia's post seems mostly speculative. unvote aage as a third party kill wouldn't do us much good.

I'd definitely been interested in hearing from Fircoal I know I've seen him on this forum at least once but nothing posted of any importance.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:11 pm

unvote Damn, if that Gambit role was completely fabricated by you, major props, Serb. At least we got a claim, right, gents? ;)
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:17 pm

strike wolf wrote: I'd definitely been interested in hearing from Fircoal I know I've seen him on this forum at least once but nothing posted of any importance.


Firfir has been bad in his mafia games D:
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:01 pm

Serbia wrote:because we need to get rid of mafia, not third party - which really is the only reason I haven't voted him. (and right now it would help me to vote him too, seeing as he's in 2nd to be lynched) But I don't think it's the best move right now, based on what I've learned.


Look at Buizel Mafia, although it was you that claimed him as 3rd party and not him himself. While I do believe your claim, if you are mafia then I'm better sure that aage is also mafia. For now I don't think it makes sense for either of you to be lynched so while during my reading I found aage the most scummy that seems to be really out the window...
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:02 pm

colton24 wrote:I myself find Serb more scummyz than aage so I will vote serbia and see where that takes us


I know you just replaced but is there any reason behind that vote or what?
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday night!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:04 pm

sensfan wrote:Firstly I apolagize to everyone for being so inactive in this mafia, i havent much time these days. I'll get back on track now.

And Secondly, wasn't aage talking about voting other people then lazily voted me? Like, what the heck? That was so random of him and tried to get someone to BW on me.

He says "In that case we might as well just BW on Sensfan. imo he's the worst replacement for jrl that could have been found. "

Im the worst replacement for jrl? Well, that's a 'feel' vote, in fact more of a i'm scum and know whos not mafia so lets kill him. It's screamin I'm scum kill me. Just because im inactive doesnt mean im not town. Can we just please vote for someone useful? The deadlines close, so we gotta do something. Aage seems like a good choice to lynch tonight, or at least get a roleclaim outta him and get matters straight. But trying to BW on someone who is inactive and is a rookie at this?

vote aage


This post ticks off my scumdar as it seems more like an OMGUS to aage than anything else. Besides the fact that aage sillehly thought you were the worst replacement, why do you think he's a good choice to lynch? I think you're trying to post these conclusions to hide the fact that you have no data.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby colton24 on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:10 pm

Fircoal wrote:
colton24 wrote:I myself find Serb more scummyz than aage so I will vote serbia and see where that takes us


I know you just replaced but is there any reason behind that vote or what?


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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:13 pm

colton24 wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
colton24 wrote:I myself find Serb more scummyz than aage so I will vote serbia and see where that takes us


I know you just replaced but is there any reason behind that vote or what?


I've been here the whole game....


and you were re-reading?

Couldn't you find something bigger in your re-read?
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby colton24 on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:17 pm

Mostly
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:38 pm

AceArtemis wrote:On a second read, Ga7 appears to be town genuinely attempting to find scum.

Fircoal did do some useful analysis early in the day, then voted for Naxus and stuck with it for the rest of the day.

Aage seems to be town, since if he was scum, he could have just taken the easy out and voted for Naxus. Mafia usually don't put themselves in the spotlight just to defend a townie they can easily lynch.

I find Serbia the most suspicious right now...
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Fircoal wrote:
colton24 wrote:Naxus didn't target safari and steal his vote...


Do we need any more proof that Naxus is scum?

colton24 wrote:He isn't scum unless the scum have a hider role...

And now I'm confused... explain further?

Serbia wrote:There certainly is a lot of unforced claiming going on early on in a game. I know I haven't played in a while, but seems to me a bit paranoid to start claiming things this early, especially things like "I tried my action on someone, but they got killed before it worked, booz0rs", and "I tried it on this one guy, but it didn't work, and I got his ability, except it's not his ability, so somehow someone else targeted the SAME PLAYER (like, maybe, 3 of us all did LOL WUT?!) and I got some third party ability! Cool huh?" I'm suspicious of all of these claims, because I don't see the point in it just yet.

Serbia wrote:Naxus does look scummy to me. And if he does pop up as scum, then lala and aage could be the threesome we're looking for.

VOTE: Naxus

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the only posts I've seen from Serbia during Day 2. The first is a trivial request for colton to be more clear. The second one is pointing out that unforced claiming is suspicious, without really saying who he thinks is scum. The third is a vote towards the popular lynch, which would likely not be seen as scummy since it was the consensus lynch. It seems scummy to me to barely say anything during the discussion, then follow the mistaken townie towards the lynch. Vote: Serbia


Look at this point, Ace puts up the arguement for Serbs and soon it becomes the focus point of the day. Soon after he posts:
AceArtemis wrote:So we have a deadline here, and nobody's even trying to find the scum. Hmmm......

Vote Count?


and much later:

AceArtemis wrote:I don't know about aage. He stayed off Naxus the entire time, even voting no lynch day 1 to avoid the Naxus bandwagon. And day 2, he fought against the naxus lynch. As I said earlier, scum don't usually put themselves in the spotlight to defend townies. But if aage is town, he should have been at least a little suspicious of Naxus due to the shady piecewise roleclaim and the fact that townies don't know who the mafia are.

But sensfan's sudden post and vote reeks of OMGUS. FoS.

More analysis to come tomorrow, I've been busy.


and that's it. I personally think that sounds too much like scumarining too me, but that isn't the scummy part. The scummy part is the fact that he decided to make a case but just let it run and didn't really follow through on it. Instead he let others take up the case and make it seem like they were the real conspires of it. It looks like to me that Ace was trying to make those who picked up the lynch look bad instead of himself. His second post didn't even focus on Serbia at all. Vote: Ace
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:39 pm

colton24 wrote:Mostly


huh?
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby AceArtemis on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:53 pm

I believe the claim, since it can be confirmed by other people. Aage, is Serbia telling the truth?

Unvote, Vote: Victor for bandwagoning on my weak case against Serbia, without adding to the reasoning. Why is Serbia more scummy than Strike Wolf or aage?

Fircoal wrote:and that's it. I personally think that sounds too much like scumarining too me, but that isn't the scummy part. The scummy part is the fact that he decided to make a case but just let it run and didn't really follow through on it. Instead he let others take up the case and make it seem like they were the real conspires of it. It looks like to me that Ace was trying to make those who picked up the lynch look bad instead of himself. His second post didn't even focus on Serbia at all. Vote: Ace

I can see why you might find that scummy. But it was not intentional. I haven't really been as involved in this game as I'd like to be.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:56 pm

Fircoal wrote:
colton24 wrote:Mostly


huh?

Seriously, wth colton? You really have no idea who to vote? You play every game with these pithy little one liners that don't say anything and don't look like you care about the game. There's at least 3 people who are up to be lynched and you don't feel strongly either way about any of them? What is this, guess what you're thinking? vote colton for skimming.

On a more relevant note, I'm tending towards believing Serbia which would put aage at a lower priority risk for us right now. The problem is that certain people haven't said anything useful, so I'm going to [b]FOS sensfan[/b] for submarining. I'd be voting him if colton would take a stand and stop waffling.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby edocsil on Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:13 pm

AceArtemis wrote:I believe the claim, since it can be confirmed by other people. Aage, is Serbia telling the truth?

Unvote, Vote: Victor for bandwagoning on my weak case against Serbia, without adding to the reasoning. Why is Serbia more scummy than Strike Wolf or aage?

Fircoal wrote:and that's it. I personally think that sounds too much like scumarining too me, but that isn't the scummy part. The scummy part is the fact that he decided to make a case but just let it run and didn't really follow through on it. Instead he let others take up the case and make it seem like they were the real conspires of it. It looks like to me that Ace was trying to make those who picked up the lynch look bad instead of himself. His second post didn't even focus on Serbia at all. Vote: Ace

I can see why you might find that scummy. But it was not intentional. I haven't really been as involved in this game as I'd like to be.


I think it need to be red.

Victor replaced, skimmed and then threw his vote on whatever lynchwagon seamed to have the most momentum going. That can be questionable when there is legitimate logic behind a lynch, but when it is a bandwagon for inactivity that is unacceptable.

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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby aage on Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:19 am

Serbia wrote:I'm Gambit, town power booster. At night, I get to choose a player to "charge". The effect will be random, could protect a player, block them, etc.
First night, I targeted Edocsil. Apparently that caused him to be busdriven with aage. Weird.
So on the second night, I decided to target aage directly. My effect on that one was an investigative answer. aage is third party schizophrenic. He gets an action at night, but has no idea what the effect will be. (my guess then is that he may have targeted lalaland, seeing as he ended up dead)

Now, I'd been tempted to vote aage, but getting rid of him really isn't going to help town at all, because we need to get rid of mafia, not third party - which really is the only reason I haven't voted him. (and right now it would help me to vote him too, seeing as he's in 2nd to be lynched) But I don't think it's the best move right now, based on what I've learned.

...yes, I'm the schitzo. But I haven't targeted lalaland.
N1: naxus, was diverted to Edoc, made me sleep with him.
N2: ga7, guard action.

I'm not too happy with the role since I could well end up giving someone triple voting rights while I really meant to kill/spy him. So yeah. That sucks.
Serbia, I don't really like how you ended up claiming my role, but i'll buy that you're the gambit.

Anyway... unvote? vote Victor. If he wants an open roleclaim he might as well do it himself...

If he's not lynched today I'll try my schitzo powers on him, see what I get. I'm hoping for a kill. If not, I'm hoping for an investigation.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby ga7 on Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:56 am

Wtf guys? Schizophrenic third party with random action, claimed by a random town role with random action? Wtf is wrong with you? Either Aage is the SK but it makes no sense why he would defend Naxus, either Serbia is covering their tracks!

Unvote Vote Aage
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby ga7 on Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:58 am

First with my little Gambit knowledge I don't know why the effect of his powers could be random when it certainly wouldn't protect them to throw a charged object at them, but the fact you would get such a detailed action scream lies to me. I definitely want to put this to a test.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby ga7 on Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:09 am

Rereading carefully I'm in total disbelief how many are buying this. Please explain to me, considering what happened in day 2 with the Naxus wagon, how it would make any kind of sense for Aage to be 3rd party. You know, the kind that needs to SURVIVE.
Take this in consideration: Aage was so sure Naxus was town.
Option 1: Naxus wasn't town. Aage is lynched or nked.
Option 2 : Naxus was indeed town. Aage gets mafia's attention.
Conclusion : Aage sticked his third party neck out because he randomly decided someone was town and always enjoys the spotlights. O RLY?!
So not even pondering as to whether skitzo is a credible claim, just the alignment is enough. Again, wtf?
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:50 am

Whoa! Everybody jumps on the Sully wagon! Remember, I replaced trestain. You should think about his actions from previous days as well. This isn't Day 1 people. I don't think your arguments should be based off of vague scumtells at this point. If you force a role claim out of me, fine, but I find your argument weak.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby edocsil on Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:09 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:Whoa! Everybody jumps on the Sully wagon! Remember, I replaced trestain. You should think about his actions from previous days as well. This isn't Day 1 people. I don't think your arguments should be based off of vague scumtells at this point. If you force a role claim out of me, fine, but I find your argument weak.


He had no actions, that's why you replaced.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby aage on Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:15 am

ga7 wrote:Rereading carefully I'm in total disbelief how many are buying this. Please explain to me, considering what happened in day 2 with the Naxus wagon, how it would make any kind of sense for Aage to be 3rd party. You know, the kind that needs to SURVIVE.
Take this in consideration: Aage was so sure Naxus was town.
Option 1: Naxus wasn't town. Aage is lynched or nked.
Option 2 : Naxus was indeed town. Aage gets mafia's attention.
Conclusion : Aage sticked his third party neck out because he randomly decided someone was town and always enjoys the spotlights. O RLY?!
So not even pondering as to whether skitzo is a credible claim, just the alignment is enough. Again, wtf?

Have you considered the option of me telling the truth all along? :roll:

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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby aage on Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:16 am

ga7 wrote:First with my little Gambit knowledge I don't know why the effect of his powers could be random when it certainly wouldn't protect them to throw a charged object at them, but the fact you would get such a detailed action scream lies to me. I definitely want to put this to a test.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby edocsil on Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:20 am

ga7 wrote:Rereading carefully I'm in total disbelief how many are buying this. Please explain to me, considering what happened in day 2 with the Naxus wagon, how it would make any kind of sense for Aage to be 3rd party. You know, the kind that needs to SURVIVE.
Take this in consideration: Aage was so sure Naxus was town.
Option 1: Naxus wasn't town. Aage is lynched or nked.
Option 2 : Naxus was indeed town. Aage gets mafia's attention.
Conclusion : Aage sticked his third party neck out because he randomly decided someone was town and always enjoys the spotlights. O RLY?!
So not even pondering as to whether skitzo is a credible claim, just the alignment is enough. Again, wtf?


This does make sense, I am not willing however to lynch someone because I do not understand. Perhaps there is a lover mechanism, or he is a Unlyncher (I think that is the right term) Then again his role is potentially dangerous. Not sure what to do. A survivor survives much better when the scum are dead, fewer killing roles.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Thursday night!

Postby ga7 on Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:21 am

aage wrote:
FoS ga7.

Dude, you postured as town the whole day, exactly how do you explain your actions if you are third party?
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