[Beginner] Straight Mafia - TOWN WINS

[AladdinSane]

As long as it's not me being lynched, I'm cool with whatever. But seriously, I'm really not at all sure about lynching on day 1. Having said that, this is my first game and I have no idea what I am talking about.

anyone but me not much team player though at the end of D1 i said more or less the same, i think this was also aladdin dropping snailmail hint he may be PR


so heres my thinking so far

DJ=confused doc not shure what to do=TOWN
alladian=town
boss=town
mitch=neutral
twr=skum partner
streak=neutral
rizky=final town

twr ur on the going back to d1 where u jumped and vote mitch super early and then unvote me "because my typing sucks"
streak and mitch u guys i got as middle not shure of

That comment about "anyone but me" was made in the early stage when I really didn't have a clue about the game. it was just a joke. I wasn't snailmailing about a PR. I am Town but whether vanilla or PR obviously it is not good either for me or Town to say right now.

[AladdinSane]

i starting to get a feeling aladain knows more about me then he is saying with how hes defending me. there is only 3 MAYBE 4 people who would know my allignment
1)skum #1
2)skum #2
3)me
4)possable cop investigated me

i cant imagine that if aladin was skum that he would e defending me he would be jumping like crazy throwing a lynch to make me L-1 and he obviously aint me so i think hes more or less soft claiming snail mailing that hes cop and investigated me and came up town.

Hmm, this has definitely made you look scummier in my eyes, Tim. Not only is it role-fishing, but it is a post that could easiily get me NKed. Even if what you say is true and I am the Cop, how could it possibly benefit Town to point this out? You are practically marking me for death. I think you are experienced enough that you would know better than to do that if you are Town.

For the record, I was NOT softclaiming/snailmailing. As I said in another post, I am Town but I am not saying anything about being either VT or PR.

This is so scummy that it has actually put you at the top of my list of suspects. I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt so far because there have been stronger scum candidates.

My main suspects:
Streaker - has done a good job of defending himself, my suspicions of him are lessening (a little).
DJ - still suspicious, but I'm unwilling to lynch in case he is a doc.
Mitch - still suspicious.

But now, as I say, Tim is at the top of the list, so VOTE TIM

[AladdinSane]

More later. I need food.

[AladdinSane]

*DJP

Sounds like your claiming cop and you investigated DJP and since you are not attacking him he must be town

Nope. Not claiming VT or PR. I am Town. That's all I am saying. This also looks like role-fishing and an attempt to get me NKed. Because Tim also did this, I am leaning toward Tim/Mitch as the diabolical duo.

[rizky_biznezz]

Streaker did actually say in the chat room that he was going to be crazy busy and was missing from live chat for several days so seeing as he lives in there dont read too much in to his absence.. Saying that I'm not defending him because he did say he would be back with full reads particularly on mitch who he announced was the scummiest at the time but when he came back he said he couldn't find anything on him which is strange there must have been something he saw to say he was the scummiest straight off.. Then u declared that u thought mitch had some town credit now which streaker was keen for us to all hear then he was pushing Tim but switched to DJ cos he could make a better case on him for an easy lynch or so he thought so then back to Tim... Just some thoughts I could be completely wrong and Tim is scum but I find mitch scummier especially with trying to out u as the cop

[rizky_biznezz]

I would like to hear why u were trying to out Aladdin as cop though Tim cos that is very suss

[madmitch]

A thought about the anti-Tim movement which is currently gaining momentum:

I've been thinking about who the Cop would have been likely to have investigated during N1, and the result. The vote at the end of D1 looked like this:

Tim - Soldier, whiterose, IB, mitch (L-2)
Soldier - Patrick, Aladdin, Tim, bos, whiterose*, risky (LYNCH)

I think if I was the cop, I would have investigated Tim, since he was the only guy to get votes apart from the guy who got lynched. If the Cop found Tim was scum, we would expect him/her to be going hard against Tim from the start of D2, to as to get him lynched. Yet we haven't seen that: Streaker and Mitch were on DJP today before switching to Tim, and RB has just recently voted Tim. To me, this is slightly suggestive of Tim's innocence.

Of course, the Cop could have investigated someone else, such as SJP or Mitch, but again we would expect him/her to go after someone hard from the start of D2 if they uncovered scum, and to stick to the attack. We haven't seen that, so it makes me think the Cop investigated a Town. Having investigated a Town, they only need act on D2 if they see the vote going toward lynching that Town. So, if someone gets closed to being lynched and someone else credible comes to their strong defense, that might be what is happening.

I ONLY ASKED BECAUSE OF THIS STATEMENT

[madmitch]

*DJP

THEN we get this which I took as the meaning of you checking him out and he was town, if I read your post wrong I am sorry

[rizky_biznezz]

Aladdin has posted many times of the possibility that DJ could be scummy or town no clear read either way.. So maybe it was innocent on ur part but it didn't come off that way.. Tim did it too but I'm still waiting for his response

[rizky_biznezz]

Unvote vote tim

Dunno who is scummier but trying to out the potential cop doesn't scream town

[TimWoodbury]

I would like to hear why u were trying to out Aladdin as cop though Tim cos that is very suss

im simply saying what i think not always been a goo thing for me.

[TimWoodbury]

*DJP

THEN we get this which I took as the meaning of you checking him out and he was town, if I read your post wrong I am sorry

see me and mitch dont typically agree but we both agree that hes snail mailing that hes cop

[TimWoodbury]

i think yall prolly just lynched me i think i am VT.

[TimWoodbury]

and if very well may get him killed tonight even if hes not cop so if he is he should should say who hes investigated thus far least town will know who not to lynch tomarrow

[madmitch]

i think yall prolly just lynched me i think i am VT.

what do you mean you think you are town? you are either vt or not.

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

Streaker - Patrick
mitch - risky, Tim
Tim - Streaker, mitch, Aladdin, risky (L-1)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline: 9:00 CCT on Monday, November 23.

[the white rose]

and if very well may get him killed tonight even if hes not cop so if he is he should should say who hes investigated thus far least town will know who not to lynch tomarrow

This again sounds like you are trying to get cop to claim/confirm

Right now i want to vote for you, but by my reckoning you are already at l-1, there is still 2 days to go, so i will refrain for the moment from hammering you, but unless i hear a convincing argument to spare you, i will hammer tomorrow.

[DJPatrick]

Just a Quick Q: in the most recent vote Tally, Risky is showing as voting for BOTH Mitch and Tim...Is this a miscalculation on Epi's part or is double-voting allowed...just asking coz it has thrown me completely!

[the white rose]

Unvote vote tim

Dunno who is scummier but trying to out the potential cop doesn't scream town

risky unvoted and voted tim. epi forgot to take the unvote off

[TimWoodbury]

i think yall prolly just lynched me i think i am VT.

what do you mean you think you are town? you are either vt or not.

more or less i double said i think. i thought it was a lynch i thought and then was making a statement that i am VT obviously way i wrote it idnt come out rright but was basically a think at the end of a think if that makes since

[TimWoodbury]

and if very well may get him killed tonight even if hes not cop so if he is he should should say who hes investigated thus far least town will know who not to lynch tomarrow

This again sounds like you are trying to get cop to claim/confirm

Right now i want to vote for you, but by my reckoning you are already at l-1, there is still 2 days to go, so i will refrain for the moment from hammering you, but unless i hear a convincing argument to spare you, i will hammer tomorrow.

just lynch me i almsot gurentee that the guy will get NK'd especially after i put the focus on him

[rizky_biznezz]

I think Tim's may have been accidental in an attempt to try and save himself where as mitch just outright called it out for no real reason...

Unvote while I think it over for a bit

[AladdinSane]

*DJP

THEN we get this which I took as the meaning of you checking him out and he was town, if I read your post wrong I am sorry

That was just a correction of mistyped "SJP" in the post above that one. Didn't mean anything apart from that.

[AladdinSane]

I think both Tim and Mitch are looking very scummy for trying to finger me as Cop, but I'm not sure which I want to vote for. Mitch seems to be backing down a bit, but Tim has gone ahead and admitted he has practically got me NKed, so I am still leaning toward him.

Mitch and Tim were at each others' throats early on, but maybe that was their strategy from the start, just a bit of theater to throw us off the track.

Tim, I am prepared to unvote you, but only if you can come up with a good explanation for why you are trying to finger me as Cop. You know it isn't good for Town to do that. Even if you think I am Cop, surely the best thing would be to keep it to yourself?

Again, I am Town but I am not saying more than that. I have done no snailmailing or softclaiming.

[AladdinSane]

[quote="AladdinSane"
I am leaning toward Tim/Mitch as the diabolical duo.[/quote]

Okay, I think we can discount this possibility now, because Mitch posted at a time when Tim was L-1 and he didn't unvote Tim. Since Tim could have been lynched at any time, that looks to me like these two aren't both scum.

That leaves the perplexing question of why Tim and Mitch seemingly independently tried to finger me as Cop at about the same time.

Hmmm. Mitch or Tim? I'll stick with Tim for now but, it has to be said, he was against NO LYNCH on D1, which is Townish.