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[ga7]

I think you guys might be reading too much into the scene, it could potentially be jeraado being killed for trying to hide behind mafia but / writing it up like that. It does fit more that he was targeted though. But the GF making the kills don't mean much, I think at best it would just mean that mafia had that one staff on their side... Not very relevant either way.

I was gonna vote Aage for yesterday's behaviour but upon rereading it might be worth pursuing xereub or Vio now.
I have a feeling Aage was mostly trying to justify his own voting, which is of course still scummy so FOS there.

I am sorry i tried to post yesterday on my phone when i got the prod before you posted this) but i did not check to see if it went though which it appears that it did not so what my post was going to say is:

Vote violet to have a party of two

Vote violet to have a party of two

Being a bit hypocritical there xureb? Going to vote me for being inactive when you were inactive yourself. Or to start a bandwagon
I think you could at least give more of a reason than that. Joke vote stage is over.

[...]I'm also interested in hearing more from victor and aage, and anything from violet. But for now, for going silent then voting for another silent person, I'll vote xuereb. However at the moment I'm teetering though so I may re-read and change again shortly if I pick up on something else

Could possibly have been killed because of this if it really is a kill because it stinks of noobness. Hell, Jeraado would have been a suspect for avoiding the Flores case the whole time IMO.

Flores is currently over the Atlantic so we won't have a claim from her before deadline. She checked the forums yesterday though so she knew she could be lynched, and didn't claim. I believe she is scum either way so would rather not leave it to chance....

Can we find a replacement for Vio, I think she's AWOL.

FOS Saf also really avoided taking a stance in that one when the deadline was closing.
All in all it's not impossible some ballsy scum could have wagonned Flores but due to the circumstances I'd be very surprised if Haggis was it, considering he hammered where at the deadline Flores could still have had a 50% chance to make it, thus gaining time/wasting an investigation etc. Of course that reasoning is a bit wifomy but there really wasn't a particular advantage to hammer for scum, except to then tell "I was there", which I suppose could be considered fit for a GF move. Still quite doubtful.

Anyway, Xuereb and Vio have contributed absolutely nothing, submarining the f*ck out of this game so far.
I'll start with a Vote xuereb for having been a bit more hypocrite in his voting Violet and being voted by Jeraado.

[VioIet]

well, someone want to tell me what was happening with vio yesterday? Some people were voting her, but I don't remember the case, nor did I understand it then.

That makes two of us squirrel. To my knowledge, I received a vote or two for not being very active. I suppose they were prod votes.

[Mr. Squirrel]

I think you guys might be reading too much into the scene, it could potentially be jeraado being killed for trying to hide behind mafia but / writing it up like that. It does fit more that he was targeted though. But the GF making the kills don't mean much, I think at best it would just mean that mafia had that one staff on their side... Not very relevant either way.

I was gonna vote Aage for yesterday's behaviour but upon rereading it might be worth pursuing xereub or Vio now.
I have a feeling Aage was mostly trying to justify his own voting, which is of course still scummy so FOS there.

I am sorry i tried to post yesterday on my phone when i got the prod before you posted this) but i did not check to see if it went though which it appears that it did not so what my post was going to say is:

Vote violet to have a party of two

Vote violet to have a party of two

Being a bit hypocritical there xureb? Going to vote me for being inactive when you were inactive yourself. Or to start a bandwagon
I think you could at least give more of a reason than that. Joke vote stage is over.

[...]I'm also interested in hearing more from victor and aage, and anything from violet. But for now, for going silent then voting for another silent person, I'll vote xuereb. However at the moment I'm teetering though so I may re-read and change again shortly if I pick up on something else

Could possibly have been killed because of this if it really is a kill because it stinks of noobness. Hell, Jeraado would have been a suspect for avoiding the Flores case the whole time IMO.

Flores is currently over the Atlantic so we won't have a claim from her before deadline. She checked the forums yesterday though so she knew she could be lynched, and didn't claim. I believe she is scum either way so would rather not leave it to chance....

Can we find a replacement for Vio, I think she's AWOL.

FOS Saf also really avoided taking a stance in that one when the deadline was closing.
All in all it's not impossible some ballsy scum could have wagonned Flores but due to the circumstances I'd be very surprised if Haggis was it, considering he hammered where at the deadline Flores could still have had a 50% chance to make it, thus gaining time/wasting an investigation etc. Of course that reasoning is a bit wifomy but there really wasn't a particular advantage to hammer for scum, except to then tell "I was there", which I suppose could be considered fit for a GF move. Still quite doubtful.

Anyway, Xuereb and Vio have contributed absolutely nothing, submarining the f*ck out of this game so far.
I'll start with a Vote xuereb for having been a bit more hypocrite in his voting Violet and being voted by Jeraado.

You make some good points, and you led us in the right direction yesterday, but I will withhold my opinions for now. I'll wait to see how the others respond and what is going on. We were too focused day 2 in my opinion. We focused solely on flores and didn't chase any other leads and now we have very little.

[spiesr]

Well, at this point I am willing to follow ga7 here and put a little pressure on xuereb. His reaction could be of some use, and I have no ideas right now. Vote xuereb.

[DrewDude]

I'm sure we have some good candidates from the earlier bandwagon on me still around.

Victor Sullivan, Haggis_McMutton, jeraado, aage

[xuereb]

Ok enough pressure I am quiet because this is my third game ever and Im not really sure which kind half lucid synapse's are considered town
I voted violet because it was a vote i could make with out killing anyone and mostly cause i was prodded it was rash and carried absolutely no weight

[aage]

Drew, I think we should kill someone at random.

Now lets see if I get wagonned too.

[Victor Sullivan]

I'm sure we have some good candidates from the earlier bandwagon on me still around.

Victor Sullivan, Haggis_McMutton, jeraado, aage

Vote DrewDude for lolz.

[DrewDude]

Sounds like you're taking a lesson from my book on how to play mafia aage with that sort of vibe I get from you. As for Victor, you're the only one "loling" here.

[aage]

Sounds like you're taking a lesson from my book on how to play mafia aage with that sort of vibe I get from you. As for Victor, you're the only one "loling" here.

Dude, anyone who suggests doing stupid things deserves my vote. You were no exception to the rule.

[Victor Sullivan]

Sounds like you're taking a lesson from my book on how to play mafia aage with that sort of vibe I get from you. As for Victor, you're the only one "loling" here.

That's what's so "lol"ly about this.

[safariguy5]

Sounds like you're taking a lesson from my book on how to play mafia aage with that sort of vibe I get from you. As for Victor, you're the only one "loling" here.

Dude, anyone who suggests doing stupid things deserves my vote. You were no exception to the rule.

I agree with this. The bandwagon was due to player actions. Scum and town could both have easily jumped on it and it's hard to tell without analyzing the vote counts from previous days. Correlation does not entail causation.

Ok enough pressure I am quiet because this is my third game ever and Im not really sure which kind half lucid synapse's are considered town
I voted violet because it was a vote i could make with out killing anyone and mostly cause i was prodded it was rash and carried absolutely no weight

So you're admitting to skimming and submarining in the same post?

vote xuereb

[DrewDude]

The only credible person I see here is safari guy since the others that have protested were on the list so they felt they had to defend themselves. A mafia was on the bandwagon and you don't wish to pursue any of them yet? Sure I acted scummy and caused a lot of suspicion to be thrown on me but we now have proof the mafia were using me as a scapegoat and one more may be lurking amongst those bandwagons. I know i'm not clear and I don't have supreme leverage for leading a lynch but we do know the facts and a mafia was intent of voting for me and one more may be lurking amongst those wagoners. I could be wrong but it doesn't hurt to persecute them and see if can shed some light on this.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Ok enough pressure I am quiet because this is my third game ever and Im not really sure which kind half lucid synapse's are considered town
I voted violet because it was a vote i could make with out killing anyone and mostly cause i was prodded it was rash and carried absolutely no weight

So you're admitting to skimming and submarining in the same post?

vote xuereb

He seems to be admitting more to noobness than to submarining. And I don't get how you get that he was skimming. He says he is still unsure about scumtells so he played it safe, and you jump on him for it. That seems a little harsh to say the least. I normally don't protect noobs too much, but in your case, you are being overly aggressive to me.

[safariguy5]

So you first said that:

You make some good points, and you led us in the right direction yesterday, but I will withhold my opinions for now. I'll wait to see how the others respond and what is going on. We were too focused day 2 in my opinion. We focused solely on flores and didn't chase any other leads and now we have very little.

Yet when I get on a case, you call it:

Ok enough pressure I am quiet because this is my third game ever and Im not really sure which kind half lucid synapse's are considered town
I voted violet because it was a vote i could make with out killing anyone and mostly cause i was prodded it was rash and carried absolutely no weight

So you're admitting to skimming and submarining in the same post?

vote xuereb

He seems to be admitting more to noobness than to submarining. And I don't get how you get that he was skimming. He says he is still unsure about scumtells so he played it safe, and you jump on him for it. That seems a little harsh to say the least. I normally don't protect noobs too much, but in your case, you are being overly aggressive to me.

Since we have so little according to you, shouldn't we be pursuing even the weaker cases? If you have a better person, I'd like to hear it, but submariners sound like the best case to me so far.

[Fircoal]

well, someone want to tell me what was happening with vio yesterday? Some people were voting her, but I don't remember the case, nor did I understand it then.

That was me voting her for submarining and xuereb doing the same. Incidentally, where is she today? And where is he today?

This is your first response to the thread, after you already were voting Voilet for submarining. Soon after you go:

Sounds like you're taking a lesson from my book on how to play mafia aage with that sort of vibe I get from you. As for Victor, you're the only one "loling" here.

Dude, anyone who suggests doing stupid things deserves my vote. You were no exception to the rule.

I agree with this. The bandwagon was due to player actions. Scum and town could both have easily jumped on it and it's hard to tell without analyzing the vote counts from previous days. Correlation does not entail causation.

Ok enough pressure I am quiet because this is my third game ever and Im not really sure which kind half lucid synapse's are considered town
I voted violet because it was a vote i could make with out killing anyone and mostly cause i was prodded it was rash and carried absolutely no weight

So you're admitting to skimming and submarining in the same post?

vote xuereb

Rather than picking up where we left off you wait for some "good evidence" for a reason for your vote. By good evidence I mean bandwagonning on a noob for being a noob.


quote="safariguy5"]So you first said that:

You make some good points, and you led us in the right direction yesterday, but I will withhold my opinions for now. I'll wait to see how the others respond and what is going on. We were too focused day 2 in my opinion. We focused solely on flores and didn't chase any other leads and now we have very little.

Yet when I get on a case, you call it:

Ok enough pressure I am quiet because this is my third game ever and Im not really sure which kind half lucid synapse's are considered town
I voted violet because it was a vote i could make with out killing anyone and mostly cause i was prodded it was rash and carried absolutely no weight

So you're admitting to skimming and submarining in the same post?

vote xuereb

He seems to be admitting more to noobness than to submarining. And I don't get how you get that he was skimming. He says he is still unsure about scumtells so he played it safe, and you jump on him for it. That seems a little harsh to say the least. I normally don't protect noobs too much, but in your case, you are being overly aggressive to me.

Since we have so little according to you, shouldn't we be pursuing even the weaker cases? If you have a better person, I'd like to hear it, but submariners sound like the best case to me so far.[/quote]

Actually I think he is pursuing a case. YOURS. It looks like to me you're trying to pass it off as if he's not being a case so that he can look scummier, you can look townier and you can get the noob lynched.

Drew, I think we should kill someone at random.

Now lets see if I get wagonned too.

Aka, of course I'm gonna get wagonned because I'm scum, so I'm gonna say this to try to get you guys from not doing it.

I'm sure we have some good candidates from the earlier bandwagon on me still around.

Victor Sullivan, Haggis_McMutton, jeraado, aage

Vote DrewDude for lolz.

VICTOR!!!!!!

[Victor Sullivan]

Of course I'm gonna get wagonned because I'm scum, so I'm gonna say this to try to get you guys from not doing it.

unvote vote Fircoal

VICTOR!!!!!!

[spiesr]

A mafia was on the bandwagon and you don't wish to pursue any of them yet?

A mafia member, or multiple members may have been involved in that bandwagon. The problem is that we have no idea which, if any of the people on the bandwagon are the elusive scum. While being on a certain bandwagon can definitely be used as evidence in a case against someone, it alone is not a very strong cause to lynch them. Is this still worth pursuing? Yes, go right ahead, but not everyone will necessarily want to go along with you.

[aage]

Drew, I think we should kill someone at random.

Now lets see if I get wagonned too.

Aka, of course I'm gonna get wagonned because I'm scum, so I'm gonna say this to try to get you guys from not doing it.

Aka you were acting like a scummy idiot so I voted for you. I already said that in another post on the same page.

And Safariguy, I suggest you stop failframing Squirrel

[safariguy5]

Drew, I think we should kill someone at random.

Now lets see if I get wagonned too.

Aka, of course I'm gonna get wagonned because I'm scum, so I'm gonna say this to try to get you guys from not doing it.

Aka you were acting like a scummy idiot so I voted for you. I already said that in another post on the same page.

And Safariguy, I suggest you stop failframing Squirrel

I'm not going after Squirrel, I'm going after xuereb. I'm saying that we shouldn't discount submarining especially since we don't have a definitively better case.

[Fircoal]

Drew, I think we should kill someone at random.

Now lets see if I get wagonned too.

Aka, of course I'm gonna get wagonned because I'm scum, so I'm gonna say this to try to get you guys from not doing it.

Aka you were acting like a scummy idiot so I voted for you. I already said that in another post on the same page.

I wasn't talking about the vote you made on Drew...

[aage]

Drew, I think we should kill someone at random.

Now lets see if I get wagonned too.

Aka, of course I'm gonna get wagonned because I'm scum, so I'm gonna say this to try to get you guys from not doing it.

Aka you were acting like a scummy idiot so I voted for you. I already said that in another post on the same page.

I wasn't talking about the vote you made on Drew...

We were.
So what were you talking about?

[Victor Sullivan]

Drew, I think we should kill someone at random.

Now lets see if I get wagonned too.

Aka, of course I'm gonna get wagonned because I'm scum, so I'm gonna say this to try to get you guys from not doing it.

Aka you were acting like a scummy idiot so I voted for you. I already said that in another post on the same page.

I wasn't talking about the vote you made on Drew...

We were.
So what were you talking about?

Wait, we're not ordering a pizza?

[ga7]

You make some good points, and you led us in the right direction yesterday, but I will withhold my opinions for now. I'll wait to see how the others respond and what is going on. We were too focused day 2 in my opinion. We focused solely on flores and didn't chase any other leads and now we have very little.

Gee, you make lynching a scum sound like a bad thing It's true there's not much but the voting record can already be helpful at this point.

Ok enough pressure I am quiet because this is my third game ever and Im not really sure which kind half lucid synapse's are considered town
I voted violet because it was a vote i could make with out killing anyone and mostly cause i was prodded it was rash and carried absolutely no weight

And you thought you could catch scum like that? Or you had no intention to catch scum but rather to not get yourself under suspicion? I understand you're a new player but do you think you can reach your win condition playing like this?

Else I still have mixed feelings about Aage that keeps defending himself from voting Drew day 2 apparently...

[aage]

Else I still have mixed feelings about Aage that keeps defending himself from voting Drew day 2 apparently...

Drew thinks it was scummy, I try to point out that he was the one who was scummy. Don't see anything odd about that. Except the fact that Drew apparently believes that randomly lynching people is great.