[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[Iron Butterfly]

WTF TWR??? why lynch me? I've offered up as a Vanilla Townie to have the invention blasted on me to prove whether or not it works or is a crock of shyyte!...lynch me now get NOTHING..."scumarining" is just a word made up by people who have f*ck all spatial cognition...think outside the farken square...

seems to me the majority of the time that you post is when someone votes to lynch you. You have had minimal participation all game but today you have been fairly active.

[degaston]

WTF TWR??? why lynch me? I've offered up as a Vanilla Townie to have the invention blasted on me to prove whether or not it works or is a crock of shyyte!...lynch me now get NOTHING..."scumarining" is just a word made up by people who have f*ck all spatial cognition...think outside the farken square...

seems to me the majority of the time that you post is when someone votes to lynch you. You have had minimal participation all game but today you have been fairly active.

Being in the path of a bandwagon has a way of doing that to people.

And with that, I think this is now the longest mafia game ever on CC.

[rizky_biznezz]

We seem to be heading toward DJ.. Not really sure what we will learn if he does end up flipping town though so still thinking it over..

[AladdinSane]

Quick replies here. Last night I did jail Rage. I'm wondering how Rage knew that he was blocked/jailed last night. In that regard I agree with deg. Of course it could be the mod, but on any noninformative role you usually (not always) don't get a result back saying you were blocked.
I am actually in agreement with TWR for today. Its a decent plan. vote DJP for now.

I'm finding Rish's jailing choises a mixed bag atm.

N1, N2 - Wing: I'm prepered to give Rish a pass on dese nites, becorse he woodent have known eny moor than teh rest of us who was who and wot was going on. After Wing declared his roll, Rish dident jail him eny moor.

N3 - IB: Dis wun is def qwesjunabul, given IB had sed he was efectively a VT after fingering HotShot. Rish's eggsplanshuns of his choises usually seem to focus on teh saving aspect of his claimed roll rather than teh rollblokkking aspect, but I dont see why it was so inportent to save IB. I tink I wood have been a better choise.

N4 - Storr: Agin, Storr was saying his god powers were eggsorsted by dis point, so I dont see why saving him was inportent. I gess Storr did flip Town so he did pertect a Town. Agin, I tink I wood have been a beter choise.

N5 - Ragian: Ortho Rish admits to jailing Ragian, he hasent daned to say why. If it is becorse he tinks Ragian is scum, why not try to make a case on him? I can unnerstand why he mite not vote Ragian today, wen we need to keep voting focused, and acvkshually his vote on DJP does make sense in dat conteckt, but he needs to say why he jailed Ragian and, if it is becorse he tinks Ragian is scum, why he tinks dat. Orso, if he does tink Ragian is scum, it eggsplains why Rish dozent want to vote Benga or Deg, but we need to heer frum teh man hisself. Given dat TWR was confermed Town with Marashu's secund deth, and he is our only confermed Town, I wood have thort he wood have been a good choise fer perteckshun, esp sinse he dozent have a claimed acktive roll.

So yeh, def a mixed bag their. Not super-Townish, but not super-scummy either.

Rish, we reely need to heer back frum you on dese ishues - keeping silent just makes you look like you are hiding sumtink.

[AladdinSane]

Dat shood of corse have red "Rish's claimed jailing choises", sinse he cood yet tern out to be a Mafia rollblokker.

It shood be noted dat, wile we have sum evidense of teh blocking aspeckt of Rish's claimed roll (i.e. Wing confermed he was blokked on N1 and N2), we dont have eny evidense of teh saving aspeckt of it. Yet his eggsplanashuns so far have focused on teh saving aspekt.

[Ragian]

Shit. The silence is killing me.

vote Rish

[madmitch]

[Metsfanmax]

WTF TWR??? why lynch me? I've offered up as a Vanilla Townie to have the invention blasted on me to prove whether or not it works or is a crock of shyyte!...lynch me now get NOTHING..."scumarining" is just a word made up by people who have f*ck all spatial cognition...think outside the farken square...

seems to me the majority of the time that you post is when someone votes to lynch you. You have had minimal participation all game but today you have been fairly active.

That happens whenever someone gets targeted, regardless of whether they are scum.

I guess I have no choice but to vote Rish, since I'd much rather see a lynch out of the triad than I would out of DJP, and a no lynch is just unacceptable at this point. You'd better be right about this, deg.

[PLAYER57832]

Player wood be secund on dat list fer me becorse she was orso pushing fer a kwik Wing linch and we are too munths into teh game now and she is still playing teh "I'm sutch a noob, I don't know wots going on" card reely hard.

Except I really am a noob.

Well, not reely. You've been playing in dis game for over two munths, and red thru (I hope) over 3000 posts. Dat shood be enuff to clue you in a bit on how teh game is played.

I tink teh reeson sum peepul (inclooding me) find you and DJP a bit scummy is dat yer not reely doin teh werk a Townie needs to do. Townies' job is to find and kill scum. Dat meens doin teh hard werk of sifting thru orl teh posts and voting patterns etc. and trying to deduce who is scummy frum dat. You help Town (and help establish yer Towniness at teh same time) by making an ackshual contribushun to finding scum. Just cheking in with vacuous comments dat dont contribute to finding scum does nuthing to help Town or establish yer Towniness.

Yes. I guess at this point I am just tired of it all. Also, I feel like I did put effort in early, but my ideas were wrong, so I am reluctant to trust that. Several have accused me of being scummy and/or interfering, so I am trying to balance.

I have felt IWR's actions were scummy. This is apparently exactly opposite. I was also wrong on wing, so now I am basically thinking to reverse my own thinking and see if it winds up with better result. My inclination is to NOT go with the crowd, so I decided maybe I should go along, but cautiously.

So... DJ seems the current target, but I am trying to ascertain if this is the target of scum or not and why.

Basically, if you want to lynch me, it personally would not bother me. Its just that I am town, so it would hurt town -- and town cannot afford it. Also, I am trying to ascertain why I am considered scum, because if the reasoning seems "correct" to me, then I need to adjust. If it seems incorrect, then it might indicate who is scum.... BUT, all that said, I think the more experienced players know this and are likely pretty good at manipulating.

Truthfully, I have thought you were scum for a while, but others have not been so sure. On my own, my vote does nothing. Actually, it almost seems worse than nothing, because if a few of us townies put out things early, it seems to get rejected. There is a group that consistently seems to vote together. What is confusing to me is that IWR is in that group, but IWR is apparently confirmed town, while I would lean toward saying the others are not town. So.. again, "twist and turn", am I safe to reverse my ideas or not?

[AladdinSane]

Unoffishal vote count:

Benga (2) -Aladdin, Catchers
Rish (4) - Benga, Deg, Ragian, Mets (L-4)
DJ (4) - IB, Rish, Mitch, TWR (L-4)

Okay, I'm wurried dat we are hedding for a no-linch hear if we are not carefull. It seems to be between DJP and Rish now. I'm happy to switch my vote to either to get a linch today, but I'll sleep on it and see how tings look in teh mourning (my time).

It kinda wurries me dat 3 of teh 4 on Rish's wagon are teh other suspecks frum teh alinement definer: Ragian (inventer), Benga (user) & Deg (wun of teh tree named). If Rish isent scum, den wun of those tree are, and wood be keen to see sumwun else on teh list get linched ahed of dem. On teh other hand, linching Rish wood yeeld moor info than linching DJP wood, as sumwun pointed out, and he hasent bothered mutch to anser qwestjuns about his "jailing" choises.

FPed Player

[PLAYER57832]

UNVOTE VOTE Benga I am not particularly happy with this, but I am LESS happy with the other 2 voting options. I will check in again. If I need to change my vote, I will. I guess at this point, I would rather get the game moving with a wrong choice than delay another day in hopes of a good one.

OPEN TO ALL OTHER SUGGESTIONS, too.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Vote Count

Benga (3) -Aladdin, Catchers, Players
Rish (4) - Benga, Deg, Rage, Mets
DJ (4) - IB, Rish, Mitch, TWR

8 to lynch. Deadline 11th March 14:00 CC time

Sigh, first you have almost no vote counts, and now you complain if I dont do one every 24hours!

[PLAYER57832]

By-the way, still leaning toward both mets and aladdin being scum, but .. I have also been very wrong many places in this game.


Wing... thank you VERY much for stepping in and doing all these counts! I asked earlier because I was under the mistaken impression our deadline was the 7th.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Wing... thank you VERY much for stepping in and doing all these counts! I asked earlier because I was under the mistaken impression our deadline was the 7th.

No worries. Deadline may move back to the 12th as I am at the Rugby on Friday so zero chance of a scene. Will let you guys know tomorrow.

[madmitch]

is it day 5 or day 6 ? I must be mad because on some posts it says 5 and other ones it says 6 . I need to know before time runs out tick tick tick

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WTF TWR??? why lynch me? I've offered up as a Vanilla Townie to have the invention blasted on me to prove whether or not it works or is a crock of shyyte!...lynch me now get NOTHING..."scumarining" is just a word made up by people who have f*ck all spatial cognition...think outside the farken square...

seems to me the majority of the time that you post is when someone votes to lynch you. You have had minimal participation all game but today you have been fairly active.

That happens whenever someone gets targeted, regardless of whether they are scum.

I guess I have no choice but to vote Rish, since I'd much rather see a lynch out of the triad than I would out of DJP, and a no lynch is just unacceptable at this point. You'd better be right about this, deg.

No, it doesn't. That happens when someone is fake inactive but secretly following along with everything that's going on. But hey, go ahead and keep saying that so it doesn't look bad that you suddenly turned all super-poster last day phase.
Shame shame, giving honestly lazy and exhausted good-for-nothings like myself a bad name...

Of course, every time I do go ahead and post a huge awesome case, I get crickets, so maybe it is time to half-ass it, quantity over quality.
Vote DJP

[degaston]

I guess I have no choice but to vote Rish, since I'd much rather see a lynch out of the triad than I would out of DJP, and a no lynch is just unacceptable at this point. You'd better be right about this, deg.

I don't know that I'm right, so who do you think is scummier:

• benga, because he wasted his investigation on rizky instead of using it on rish or me to help clear up the alignment definer
• rish, because he blocked rage so we have no invention to use today, and can't confirm his alignment
• or DJP, because he... what was the case against DJP again?

[Metsfanmax]

I guess I have no choice but to vote Rish, since I'd much rather see a lynch out of the triad than I would out of DJP, and a no lynch is just unacceptable at this point. You'd better be right about this, deg.

I don't know that I'm right, so who do you think is scummier:

• benga, because he wasted his investigation on rizky instead of using it on rish or me to help clear up the alignment definer
• rish, because he blocked rage so we have no invention to use today, and can't confirm his alignment

Those are both questionable, though I've already pointed out that I have some sympathy for benga's perspective that he wouldn't want to use an investigation on people we already knew something about. His investigation looks bad maybe in the minor context of D6 but might be vindicated in later days if he is town.

The thing about rish is, if he were scum, blocking Rage would be a perfectly logical play. But then why would he admit it? He could have easily sponsored mass town confusion by saying he blocked someone else. If he's scum, he gains a lot less by telling the truth, no? Still, he hasn't really explained any of his actions satisfactorily, and it's starting to seem like he's something of a liability.

[rizky_biznezz]

Vote benga for now.. I'm not sure about DJ there isn't much to go on he could be scum but if he is town we have nothing to use... I will swap to rish if we can't agree because it's better than a no lynch but I'm not throwing my vote on him yet

[AladdinSane]

I make it DJP (5), Rish (4), and Benga (3) atm. I'd rather vote sumwun involved in teh alinement indickator saga, becorse dat linch will be moor informative than a DJP linch, and I don't beleeve now dat Benga can get teh votes. Orso Rish reely isent helping his case by staying silent at dis point, and his "jailing" choises havent been orl dat useful. So...

UNVOTE VOTE RISH

[AladdinSane]

Dam! RB's voted Benga now, witch means maybe Benga can get teh numbers after orl. Benga's a lower-risk linch becorse he has no acktive power roll.

Okay, I'll leeve my vote on Rish fer now, but I'm still down fer a Benga linch.

[CatchersMitt14]

I'm inclined ot keep my vote on benga. After thinkin about who I would potentially switch to between rish and DJ I'm very torn. Reading through the arguments I lean towrads voting rish. However, I then look at where the votes currently stand and I feel much more comfortable trusting those voting for DJ over those voting for rish. Currently I don't feel the need to swich my vote but I will closer to the deadline if necissary. In that case I currently would predict switching to DJ.

Agreed, we need a lynch today. Keep in mind there are at least three days to the deadline, potentially four. In my opinion it's too early to start stressing over the possiblity of another no lynch, there's a lot of time left on the clock.

[Ragian]

I'm confident that all votes on Benga are scum.

Where the frick is Rish? Can he be prodded?

[Iron Butterfly]

At this point I trust the group on Rish the most and we need a consensus.

unvote vote Rish

[madmitch]

unvote vote rish