Resort Mafia Endgame, The Grand Finale

[chapcrap]

ha ha i'm always scummy. I think the only reason you doubt my township is because I've been posting less. Very much WIFOM, not much logic.

Lurking is very much a scum tell. It isn't WIFOM. If you don't want to come off as scummy, post more.

I would post more but if I don't have much to say or add to the discussion I generally just keep my mouth shut (or my keyboard in this case). Besides, my job keeps me busy enough as it is with all these people running around ordering beers and what not.

Although I do think that shield is acting scummy, he's right. You jump on me for posting stuff that doesn't matter and jump on him for looking and not talking. You can't have it both ways.

[F1fth]

If his sole post after the joke vote stage was one encouraging the lynch of a possibly powerful town role, then I think that's reason enough to vote Steaker. It's at least preferable to having Squirrel up on the chopping block. I also think the anark case is interesting, but not our best option at this point.

[ShaggyDan]

Hey guys back, looks like I didn't miss out on heaps off stuff despite there being a lot of pages to go through .

I buy chap's claim, it was said there are going to be a lot of unique roles and a randomised multi-blocker sounds very unique to me. The thing is though, claims in this sort of game may not be that useful, with all the mafia dead we could be looking at a cult game, or a game with a bunch of SK's, or another faction entirely. For all we know there could be the Australian League of Gamblers as mafia. I believe the role, but I'm hesitant to believe the allignment. I guess we'll learn more as the game goes on.

I'll have a re-read when I'm all caught up in my other games and see if i can build a case on anyone.

Unvote and Vote Streaker. I know it's hypocritical for me to say he hasn't posted much, but if his only post was for lynching a believed claim without a great deal of reasoning then that tips the scales for me.

[Fircoal]

I'm so behind. >< I still wanna play just gotta catch up to everything xwx

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Vote Count:

safariguy5 (1) - Fircoal
Mr. Squirrel (2) - TA1LGUNN3R, VioIet
evilchaos (1) - pancakemix
Streaker (3) - ShaggyDan, safariguy5, evilchaos
Anarkistsdream (1) - Iliad

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch
Just 3 more days, by the way due to Memorial Day I will not be here tomorrow, possibly the day after, so please keep an eye on the votes yourselves until the deadline. As an added incentive, there is a fun opportunity planned for those of you who survive until night.

[shieldgenerator7]

ha ha i'm always scummy. I think the only reason you doubt my township is because I've been posting less. Very much WIFOM, not much logic.

Anyway, I see we have two valid cases here against Anark and Streaker. We can't go after both of them, but they may both be scum, we don't know. To me, Streaker seems the most scummy especially because of his bandwagoning on shield7, which obviously started as a joke vote and then escalated into a near lynch scene (altough I know it didn't get up that far), right before his death. So I will bandwagon on Streaker to get him to post a little more.
Unvote Vote Streaker
Maybe we will get an explanation for his actions.
And those of you with votes on Mr. Squirrel please take them off so we don't give him the guillotine without proper reasoning.

So you think that Streaker bandwagonning is scummy and then you turn around and admit to doing the same thing? Doesn't that make you scummy as well?

FoS Shield we should revisit this tomorrow.

I was just doing my best to look scummeh. no, jk.
Yes, I wrote "bandwagon" but keep in mind I'm No. 2 on Streaker's bandwagon, unless there were joke votes.
And Streaker voted for shield7 after you joke voted him, so (1) he voted because shield7's a rather poor player as of yet and was a good choice for a lynch cause he's annoying, and (2) there was no actual logic behind the vote and Streaker just blindly hopped on shield7's bandwagon, when we were clearly out of the joke vote stage.
The case on Streaker has some valid arguments, but the case on shield7 was solely based on a joke vote. There's a big difference. I'm not trying to kick you out of the bar, I'm just defending my actions. But good catch, I'm glad you're paying attention.

[Mr. Squirrel]

I don't know where streaker is, but he should probably get here soon.

[Talapus]

Two days away from a lynch and lots of votes away as well. This isn't looking so good right now. And Streaker it's time to come in and talk as with the vote on you right now, you will be the one leaving us. There are others that need to visit us soon though as well and at least talk or I suggest the mod use a prod of the cattle variety on them. Right now though I am curious to hear from Streaker about the accusations against him. Seems to be all we have at the moment.

While we wait however, feel free to make your way to the bar for free drinks and food for the remainder of the day. I won't be joining you of course, but I hoped you would flock to free booze and vacate the pool so I may enjoy it without the likes of you.

[chapcrap]

There are others that need to visit us soon though as well and at least talk or I suggest the mod use a prod of the cattle variety on them. Right now though I am curious to hear from Streaker about the accusations against him. Seems to be all we have at the moment.

Agreed on that.

Although I'm not convinced on Streaker yet, he is suspicious. I don't think I have a vote out right now, but if I do unvote.

If Streaker doesn't convince me, I will be voting for him later, because I think the next highest vote is Mr. Squirrel and I think that our Swami is innocent.

[Anarkistsdream]

Wait what?

Why the hell would I have bought Chaps claim? It made no sense to me.

And, yes, after someone EXPLAINED how it would work, then it made sense to me, hence I unvoted...

I don't think that's scummy at all.

[Mr. Squirrel]

vote streak
Unless he shows up sometime soon...

[Commander9]

I don't know yet. You can tell me who would try to block. I still have 5 days to figure it out.

Lets just say that I think it will work better if you would just choose those people on your own and state them in the thread. Then, we could see what happens during the night and find out more about the role (or confirm your words).

So are we going to choose a target here or am I going to be lynched (for reasons that I don't know)?

Nervous?

Having re-read, I have a case on anark.

He jumps on the chap wagon

I personally find it very odd that you need to reiterate to us that you're friendly and town so many times. Perhaps you are trying to convince yourself? It's day 1 and we don't really have anything solid as of yet, but we have to try something... And I think some pressure on you will not hurt.

Unvote. Vote Chap.

How will putting pressure on me help? Do you want me to just tell you my abilities so that I can get killed my the scum?

By saying that, you'll be killed by scum. The post basically admits to having a power role. Unless, of course, you are scum. This was an obvious attempt to get us to back off the pressure without a claim.

100% agree, there...

Unvote
Vote: Chap

Pushes for for the lynch;

It seems no more legit than any other role, either...

That very easily sounds like an easy cover, too. Chap has already expressed knowledge of this game and its mechanics, so his naivete is a little bullshitty sounding to me.

How do you play the game? How would you block yourself?

I don't buy it at all.

And as soon as the wagon starts to dissapear as people are convinced Anark flip flops and jumps off the wagon;

OK, OK... After having it explained, I think I may buy it.

Unvote

Also the daykiller seemed to go for Talapus and as such it was probably a fairly experienced player who remembers Talapus.
unvote vote anark

I don't know if anark will pop in to claim if a wagon develops on him, but even a speedlynch is better than an accidental one.

Well... A rather weak case at best. The posts that AD has made here are not too different from most of the other game I have been in with him, so I am not all that convinced with this argument. I wouldn't mind putting some pressure, but with so little time left, I'd hate to pressure him, find out that he's a doctor and then seeing people "forgetting" to unvote or didn't manage to unvote in time.

[Commander9]

@ Streaker's case

Streaker possibly could be a decent case, but with a deadline on June 1st and a person with most votes possible being lynched, I think I'd prefer a no lynch rather than a mislynch which was done due to a hurry. Streaker can always be pressured tomorrow.

[evilchaos]

A no lynch won't happen though because the most votes --> lynch. We would have to get every person to remove their vote. I would rather have a possible scum be lynched than allow some random player with one vote on them to receive the lynch because the voter didn't get here in time to remove it.

[chapcrap]

A no lynch won't happen though because the most votes --> lynch. We would have to get every person to remove their vote. I would rather have a possible scum be lynched than allow some random player with one vote on them to receive the lynch because the voter didn't get here in time to remove it.

No, this wouldn't work either. If there is a tie, someone is eliminated randomly. If there are no votes, everyone is tied. Someone has to be lynched. It's a rule.

[F1fth]

Haven't you guys heard of voting no lynch? If no lynch has the most votes then that's what happens I believe.

But if we vote no lynch today, we'll be a day behind as we not only put off finding out solid information about someone's role, but also all the implications that the lynch has. We'll know if people have been pushing for the lynch of an inactive townie or a submarining scum. Otherwise, we're in the same boat tomorrow as we were in day 1 except now whatever scum is in this game has gotten to take a potshot at us, and it's nearly impossible to deduce any meaning from a NK this early in the game. Too much WIFOM involved.

That's not to say I'm opposed to the no lynch, but I just want to make sure everyone considers our options carefully here.

[safariguy5]

I'm fine with lynching streaker, he's contributed absolutely nothing of interest to the back half of the day, and a submarine lynch probably isn't the worst D1 lynch.

[Commander9]

I'm fine with lynching streaker, he's contributed absolutely nothing of interest to the back half of the day, and a submarine lynch probably isn't the worst D1 lynch.

And if he's lying low because he's the cop or the doctor?

[safariguy5]

I'm fine with lynching streaker, he's contributed absolutely nothing of interest to the back half of the day, and a submarine lynch probably isn't the worst D1 lynch.

And if he's lying low because he's the cop or the doctor?

No decent cop or doctor should be lying so low that they get accused of scummarining as to me that's the easiest case to make on Day 1. Active and townish yes, but silence is scummy as nag would say.

[Commander9]

No decent cop or doctor should be lying so low that they get accused of scummarining as to me that's the easiest case to make on Day 1. Active and townish yes, but silence is scummy as nag would say.

Disagree. He's still fairly new and may have not had enough experience. I'm not justifying him, but speedlynching is not something I will take part of.

[evilchaos]

A cop or doctor staying below the radar would still read the thread frequently to pick an investigation/protect target. He would have responded by now to accusations against him.

[Commander9]

A cop or doctor staying below the radar would still read the thread frequently to pick an investigation/protect target. He would have responded by now to accusations against him.

He might have been following a thread and something happened to him now. Maybe he just forgot about the role. I will state again - I don't mind investigating him/pressuring him, but with deadline so soon, I will not participate in the speed lynch (Never have and most likely never will).

[chapcrap]

Even if he is a noob, people have been calling out Streaker for enough time for him to respond.

ShaggyDan should try to make another appearance too. He just showed up after being gone forever and jumped on the Streaker bandwagon in his only post.

[ShaggyDan]

I personally would prefer to lynch someone on D1 rather than go to a NL. We have no idea what the set-up is and any information is beneficial. Not lynching today is a waste IMO. That said, if a majority of players decide they want to NL or there isn't a large consensus on Streaker I will pull my vote and vote NL with them (due to highest number of votes), not because I think it's the right move, but because I think it's fair for the outcome that most people want to be achieved, which may not happen with the whole 'highest number of votes has a random chance of dieing' situation. I assume that some people who haven't voted for a person yet have done so because they don't want to see a lynch. So I would count them in my own mental tally of 'people who would prefer a NL'.

There hasn't been a whole lot more to say about the situation than that I think. If Streaker does eventually come out and believably defends himself I guess we're stuck at a NL at this point (unfortunatly IMO).

[Streaker]

Hey guys, very big apologies for my lack of anything in this game. No excuses, but the observant eye will see it is in all my games this week.
Feel free to lynch me, or replace me.

If not, I will not catch up until weekend.