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Who is the MVP?

Poll ended at Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:54 pm

the white rose
5
33%
Metsfanmax
1
7%
Iron Butterfly
0
No votes
AladdinSane
7
47%
madmitch
1
7%
/ aka Slash
1
7%
Rishaed
0
No votes
other (by post)
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 15

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby CatchersMitt14 on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:23 am

AladdinSane wrote:Dis post is unhelpful and lazy, and bordering on scumy. You don't like me pushin a Mitch linch but you say yore gut tells you to ignaw teh alinement indickater and you havent voted, so aggesackly who wood YOU vote fer (and have me vote fer? Is der reely a better candidate than Mitch? I don't tink so. Why are you aginst linchin teh scumiest playa in teh game wen we need to get moor infermashun? Why be suspishus of teh playa who wants to linch teh scumiest playa in teh game? I've outlined teh benefits of a Mitch linch - eggsackly why do you disagree? Wood it be beter to gambul on Deg or Rish given you don't twust teh alinement indickator? Who else is their? Your tinking is either confused, or you want Town to make another mislinch. I'm leeving my vote on Mitch becorse I don't see a better opshun.

Orso, dis "Aladdin spekulates too mutch" line is old, tired, and frankly inackurate. Wot I do is point out wear peepul are making unwaranted asumpshuns or mistakes of logic. I was rite to suspect teh Mods wood put a twist in teh Marashu revival - I thort it wood be an alinement change (as per MafiaScum), but it terned out to be Storr dying wen Marashu was killed agin. Still, it was werth baring in mind. It was orso me who pointed out (before TWR) dat Ragian's invenchuns dont have positive evidense of werking, and dat LSU TJ's invenchuns mite orl werk by reflecking back on teh user. Those are orl valid points to make and, fer orl we know, those last two mite tern out to be teh case. It's not "muddying teh waters", it's cleering up confused tinking. agin, yer either confused or yer scum and yer wurried becorse I am onto sumtink.


I cOmpletky fail to see how you can classify Mitch as the scumiest person in this game. What information would lychving Mitch get us? They only way it could possibly be helpful is if he's lied about his role. If he's telling the truth, we've learned nothing. Also, call me lazy if you want, but I've already posted my thoughts on this and if you don't bother to read the entire thread that's your issue and I'm not going to repeat myself.

Of course you got some of your predictions right. With your shear amount of posts telling us about every possible outcome (or at least the ones you want us to consider) you would have to get some of them right eventually.

I just stated I wanted to go back and look at deg/rish. And you're not only pushing for my vote now but asking me exactly the questions I said I need to go back to answer. There's another scum smove by you, let's rush you're vote so you don't have time to think it through. Fine, here you go. Oh, and by the way, this isn't the first time I've voted for you in cas you need to go back and actually read my thoughts then as well.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:29 am

Oh agin: LSU TJ

Cleerly sum kwestjuns about him. Is he "insane inventer" or "scum inventer who makes confusing invenchuns"? Why was he abul to use wun of his invenchuns (swetter) hisself? Why did he not eggspect Storr to die N2 and sent him teh swetter?

But not a linch target fer today. Player's stated reesons fer voting him seem week, to say teh leest. No point linching him yet if his invenchuns prove "reliably unreliabul" - i.e. unreliabul in a predicktabul way.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby Ragian on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:32 am

I could get behind voting the following:
- / (slash)
- DJP
- Player
- Deg
- Rish

Lately, I have taken to Mets, but not an awful lot. I kinda like IB too. TWR I have to like. Other than that, I don't really trust too many people. Well, I like Benga too.

I'm going back to my gut feeling.

vote deg

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby CatchersMitt14 on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:35 am

AladdinSane wrote:DJP/Player - both verry keeen to get teh Wing linch dun. Looks like ineggsperiensed scum eeger to put teh nails in a Town coffin.


FP'd by Aladdin several times.

Oh, here we go again. At this point I'm really starting to believe that you're not reading my posts which makes me wonder what else your skimmerating. I advocated for a lynch on player yesterday. Did you add anything of substance to that conversation? Don't think so. And since you're going to askify, yes, player is still on my list of people I'd be happy lynching today.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:39 am

CatchersMitt14 wrote:
AladdinSane wrote:I cOmpletky fail to see how you can classify Mitch as the scumiest person in this game. What information would lychving Mitch get us? They only way it could possibly be helpful is if he's lied about his role. If he's telling the truth, we've learned nothing. Also, call me lazy if you want, but I've already posted my thoughts on this and if you don't bother to read the entire thread that's your issue and I'm not going to repeat myself.

Of course you got some of your predictions right. With your shear amount of posts telling us about every possible outcome (or at least the ones you want us to consider) you would have to get some of them right eventually.

I just stated I wanted to go back and look at deg/rish. And you're not only pushing for my vote now but asking me exactly the questions I said I need to go back to answer. There's another scum smove by you, let's rush you're vote so you don't have time to think it through. Fine, here you go. Oh, and by the way, this isn't the first time I've voted for you in cas you need to go back and actually read my thoughts then as well.
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Just to clarify, I'm saying Mitch is teh scummiest playa in teh "anti-Town" sense of scummy, not "Mafia". His play has been cleerly anti-Town thus far, mutch moor so than enybody else still alive. He has persistently spread misinformashun to confuse us, and has sucseeded on a few okayshuns. He is cleerly not Town and as I sed before, wether he is jester or serviver, his innerests don't lie wit voting Town.

It's not orl about infermashun, you know. Shore, linching Mitch won't tell us mutch but, as I sed before, teh idee is to buy us a day so we can gather info frum new invenchuns without wasting a Townie in teh process. It's obvius. Wot infermashun wood linching, say, Deg, give us if he flips Town? It doent meen fer shore dat Rish is scum. it cood meen dat Ragian's invenchun dozent werk. Same wit orl teh others. Eggsackly whose deth do you tink wood provide so mutch infermashun enyway?

And now yer voting teh guy who wants to linch teh scummiest playa, rather than linch teh scummiest player himself. How scummy is dat? Answer: super scummy.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:42 am

CatchersMitt14 wrote:
AladdinSane wrote:DJP/Player - both verry keeen to get teh Wing linch dun. Looks like ineggsperiensed scum eeger to put teh nails in a Town coffin.


FP'd by Aladdin several times.

Oh, here we go again. At this point I'm really starting to believe that you're not reading my posts which makes me wonder what else your skimmerating. I advocated for a lynch on player yesterday. Did you add anything of substance to that conversation? Don't think so. And since you're going to askify, yes, player is still on my list of people I'd be happy lynching today.


Wot are you on about? Dis has nuthin to do wit yer posts. It's just sumtink i noted erlier about Player and DJP. DJP even reacked to me in a very OMGUS way.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby rizky_biznezz on Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:13 am

Im with twr im still curious about benga.. His flip will tell us if lsus inventions are flipping to the user, give us an idea about rish and if he saved IB by jailing him or if benga was the target... While it is possible that mitch is lying about being jester to not get killed I think at the moment we need info.. I could probably get on board DJ or player but I can't decide if they are too obvious to be scum and are just making bad plays as townies..

Still waiting to hear from LSU as to why he can't use his invention and why benga can't use his until night..
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:25 am

Vote Count

Rish (2) - benga, Mitch,
Deg (3) - Mets, LSU, Rage
Mitch (1) - Aladdin
Mets (1) - /,
Benga (1) - TWR,
LSU (1) - Players
TWR (1) - DJ,
Aladdin (1) - Catcher Mitt
No lynch (1) - rish,

Not Voting (3) - IB, Rizky, Deg

8 to lynch. Deadline monday 29th 12:00 CC time

15. No majority at deadline will result in No Lynch, and all players who not voted dead.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:18 am

TWR please unvote Benga. We need a consensus. We can go all over the place with what if. Mafia at this point would be just as happy with a no vote, which is why we are seeing votes all over.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby DJPatrick on Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:41 am

the white rose wrote:

DJPatrick wrote:
btw...i'M NOT ACTUALLY SAYING that TWA isw Scum, more just getting a vote in...seems that all the pps who have been posting almost non-stop have been Town and have been killed...maybe, just maybe, there's a few Mafia lingering in the Shadows and rubbing their hands as we kill each other?

TWR wrote:

such as you perhaps?

how scummy is that? just voting for someone who has zero chance of being lynched rather than vote for someone who may well be scum.

if it weren't for the fact that we have bigger fish to fry i would be looking at DJP now. But I will not forget this post....and no, it has nothing to do with the fact that he has voted for me, more that he is wasting his vote, i would feel the same if he voted nolynch or any other confirmed townie....i take this vote as saying 'if you wanna lynch scum, don't ask me to help'


But hey Settle Petal...that's one of the most town-focussed things I have done (EASY WHEN THIS "BASTARD GAME" is my second)...I was just setting out a lure to see who reacted and switched from the supposed either or of deg/rish to me...I did this because so many pps are in here all the time drawing heat and deflecting it yet I feel those not putting in too much must be high proportion Mafia,,,let's face it they've been able to sit back and watch town shark attack each other!

I actually posted that I was not accusing TWR by voting for him/her but some people just see RED when they see a RED lynch post (understandable in this game)

So...I don't see Deg as Scum and will not be voting for him/her ...

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:12 am

DJPatrick wrote:the white rose wrote:

DJPatrick wrote:
btw...i'M NOT ACTUALLY SAYING that TWA isw Scum, more just getting a vote in...seems that all the pps who have been posting almost non-stop have been Town and have been killed...maybe, just maybe, there's a few Mafia lingering in the Shadows and rubbing their hands as we kill each other?

TWR wrote:

such as you perhaps?

how scummy is that? just voting for someone who has zero chance of being lynched rather than vote for someone who may well be scum.

if it weren't for the fact that we have bigger fish to fry i would be looking at DJP now. But I will not forget this post....and no, it has nothing to do with the fact that he has voted for me, more that he is wasting his vote, i would feel the same if he voted nolynch or any other confirmed townie....i take this vote as saying 'if you wanna lynch scum, don't ask me to help'


But hey Settle Petal...that's one of the most town-focussed things I have done (EASY WHEN THIS "BASTARD GAME" is my second)...I was just setting out a lure to see who reacted and switched from the supposed either or of deg/rish to me...I did this because so many pps are in here all the time drawing heat and deflecting it yet I feel those not putting in too much must be high proportion Mafia,,,let's face it they've been able to sit back and watch town shark attack each other!

I actually posted that I was not accusing TWR by voting for him/her but some people just see RED when they see a RED lynch post (understandable in this game)

So...I don't see Deg as Scum and will not be voting for him/her ...

UNVOTE VOTE ALLADIN


You might have some sense of credibility if you had contributed anything this game besides calling Wing Monkey man. You now say your last vote was a trap of sorts? Once again a trap of sorts can only be sprung by someone the community listens to and trusts. Here you went from one illogical vote to another.

So tell me, tell us in your wisdom who the high proportion mafia are.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby madmitch on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:12 am

UNVOTE VOTE ALADDIN After rereading posts he seems the most scummiest by far ,also he has been after me and if we get rid of him we don't have to read his long and annoying posts anymore =D> =D> O:)
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:19 am

madmitch wrote:UNVOTE VOTE ALADDIN After rereading posts he seems the most scummiest by far ,also he has been after me and if we get rid of him we don't have to read his long and annoying posts anymore =D> =D> O:)


Mitch your just taking up space this game. You are a non entity.

DJ makes a TWR vote to set a trap :roll: and less then 24 hours later switches votes to alladin.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:43 am

Rish (1) - benga,
Deg (4) - Mets, LSU, Rage, IB
Mitch (1) - Aladdin
Mets (1) - /,
Benga (1) - TWR,
LSU (1) - Players
Aladdin (3) - Catcher Mitt, DJ, Mitch
No lynch (1) - rish,

Not Voting (2) - Rizky, Deg

8 to lynch. Deadline monday 29th 12:00 CC time
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:55 am

madmitch wrote:After rereading posts he seems the most scummiest by far

Dis is formulayic, generic, and basicly says nuttink at orl. Wot, spesifikly have you spotted dat you tink makes me look scummy? Make an ackshual contribushun wit an orijinal observashun fer wunce. Dis kind of lazy crap dozent cut teh mustard.
madmitch wrote: ,also he has been after me
Yeh, but if yer a jester like you claim, you shood be happy about dat. Dis makes me even moor shore you arnt reely a jester. I tink yer a serviver and you WILL continue to funk wit Town.
madmitch wrote:and if we get rid of him we don't have to read his long and annoying posts anymore =D> =D> O:)

Agin, dis is just lazy and inackurate. Sum of my posts are on teh long side - dats becorse I take teh trubble to lay out teh REESONS behind my conclushuns / votes, and to include adekwate quotes to back dem up. As fer "anoying": Are you reely rehashing my post restrickshun AGIN ffs?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:59 am

DJPatrick wrote:the white rose wrote:

DJPatrick wrote:
btw...i'M NOT ACTUALLY SAYING that TWA isw Scum, more just getting a vote in...seems that all the pps who have been posting almost non-stop have been Town and have been killed...maybe, just maybe, there's a few Mafia lingering in the Shadows and rubbing their hands as we kill each other?

TWR wrote:

such as you perhaps?

how scummy is that? just voting for someone who has zero chance of being lynched rather than vote for someone who may well be scum.

if it weren't for the fact that we have bigger fish to fry i would be looking at DJP now. But I will not forget this post....and no, it has nothing to do with the fact that he has voted for me, more that he is wasting his vote, i would feel the same if he voted nolynch or any other confirmed townie....i take this vote as saying 'if you wanna lynch scum, don't ask me to help'


But hey Settle Petal...that's one of the most town-focussed things I have done (EASY WHEN THIS "BASTARD GAME" is my second)...I was just setting out a lure to see who reacted and switched from the supposed either or of deg/rish to me...I did this because so many pps are in here all the time drawing heat and deflecting it yet I feel those not putting in too much must be high proportion Mafia,,,let's face it they've been able to sit back and watch town shark attack each other!

I actually posted that I was not accusing TWR by voting for him/her but some people just see RED when they see a RED lynch post (understandable in this game)

So...I don't see Deg as Scum and will not be voting for him/her ...

UNVOTE VOTE ALLADIN


1. HOW do you manage to keep funking up teh kwoting so badly?

2. Innersting I have a cupple of teh scummiest looking playas on my wagon now. Will be innersting to see who jumps on fer teh ride.

3. I can't make eny sense of wot yer saying hear. You rambul on about some trap you set dat I just do not get, and den, out of teh blue rite at teh end, you vote me without giving eny reesons wotsoever. Am i amoung "those not putting in too much"? Becorse, you know, peepul genrally say I post too mutch.

I am seeing a disterbing lack of cleer tinkink frum too meny playas, and too mutch voting wiitout having/giving reesons fer teh vote. I tink dis is wot lies at teh hart of our problems so far in teh game. Only a few playas are doing eny hevy lifting.

Side note: If their is enywun I trust (apart frum TWR) in dis game, it is RB. Just a gut feeling.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:08 am

Oh, and btw DJP: Yer "trap" eggscuse fer why you voted a confermed Town (TWR) is week as worter and just shows dat you have been skimming and not keeping up wit tings. Did you reely tink scum wood follow you onto a vote fer a confermed Town? I dout it: I tink you just hadent dun enuff reeding to reelize TWR was confermed Town by Marushu, who is ded and obviusly 100% Town Insane Cop.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby the white rose on Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:40 am

look guys, voting is all over the place.

it seems that we cannot make up our minds as to who is scum and whether the definer can be trusted.

I have been asked unvote benga presumably to choose between deg and rish, but the problem is that i can see much more evidence against benga than either of deg or rish.

So do I have to switch to one of those even if i think they are probably both town?

i think aladdin has the right idea, we could postpone this rish/deg/benga/rag discussion to tomorrow and choose a compromise lynch today.....but like others have said, i do not see mitch as the best compromise....but how about DJP? I would be happy to lynch him and lets see what happens tonight. Tomorrow, we can look again at the definer.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:01 pm

I could go with either DJP or Aladdin. Since Aladdin has vote already and time is short..

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:10 pm

the white rose wrote:i think aladdin has the right idea, we could postpone this rish/deg/benga/rag discussion to tomorrow and choose a compromise lynch today.....but like others have said, i do not see mitch as the best compromise....but how about DJP? I would be happy to lynch him and lets see what happens tonight. Tomorrow, we can look again at the definer.


It looks like nobody is going fer teh Mitch linch. I still tink it is teh best opshun, and I'm a bit disapointed it dozent look like it will hapen, but okay, their are others looking scummy who woodent be too bad as linches today.

Innerstingly, peepul I have awreddy pointed out as acting scummy have piled onto me - namely DJP and now Player. I cood vote fer wun of those two to avoid a no lynch situashun, a s a compromise vote. Both votes smack of OMGUS. Look at Player - she railed on about how peepul piled onto teh Falko wagon for wot she sed were insuffishent reesons, yet hear she is saying she is voting fer me becorse time is short and I have sum votes awreddy. Tork about inconsistensy. Both these two and CM have voted me witout giving eny solid reesons or pointing to enyting spesific I have dun or not dun. Dey have voted me efectively fer voting fer teh most anti-Town player alive, Mitch.

Falko voted fer a confermed cop - I have dun nuttink like dat. In fact, I tried to warn peepul to take there time and tink teh Wing linch thru but DJP and Player were on at me (and others) to linch him qwikly. Well, dey got wot dey wanted, and Wing flipped Town. And now their after me.

Mitch's vote on me just proves he is not a jester, since a jester wood cooperate wit sumwun trying to linch dem, or at leest not get in teh way. He's a serviver. Okay, don't linch him, just don't cry to me if he screws us on teh vote later.

I'm still not prepared to vote Deg or Rish at dis point, and I'll only switch my vote frum Mitch to avoid a no linch.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby / on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:46 pm

I've noticed that some voters only seem to pop up right by the deadlines, presumably in an attempt to not be modkilled... I wonder if any are consistent day to day, need to reread again...

And Ragian, you aren't exactly inspiring any confidence in me either, so you think we should lynch people who are questioning your inventions, and love people who are following your lead like ducks.
I would have never guessed. :P

And yeah, it is unexpected that Mitch is trying to lynch someone who is trying to lynch him. Strange, but I won't quite say scummy; after all he's been trying to give us WIFOM bait all game... All I can say is *shrug*.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:45 pm

/ wrote:I've noticed that some voters only seem to pop up right by the deadlines, presumably in an attempt to not be modkilled... I wonder if any are consistent day to day, need to reread again...

And Ragian, you aren't exactly inspiring any confidence in me either, so you think we should lynch people who are questioning your inventions, and love people who are following your lead like ducks.
I would have never guessed. :P

And yeah, it is unexpected that Mitch is trying to lynch someone who is trying to lynch him. Strange, but I won't quite say scummy; after all he's been trying to give us WIFOM bait all game... All I can say is *shrug*.


And which voters would that be / ?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:46 pm

...considering your vote is a complete waste today.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (28/28) Day 1 started!

Postby / on Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:12 pm

Hmm, maybe work on your comedic timing there buddy. From a friend that cracks you up. O:)

Mets comes to mind.
Metsfanmax wrote:I'm going to Vote No Lynch for now just so I don't unintentionally get modkilled.

Day one, the "I'm only doing this because I'm being forced to" vote

Metsfanmax wrote:I don't think a Storr lynch would have worked today anyway, so sure, I'll

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vote Falkomagno

Day three, the "I'm very reluctantly wagoning without my own reason because of deadline" vote

Metsfanmax wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Vote IB


I'm not trying to lynch anyone, I am trying to lynch you. You have been caught red-handed. Its just a shame that you and your cronies are trying to sweep that one under the carpet.


I've already explained why this "cop check" shouldn't be trusted so completely, and you have completely ignored this, so

Vote Wing

And the perfect 10 "You aren't listening to me and are voting IB!" vote.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (15/28) D5 - Kills start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:16 pm

Yes but you know that is not going to happen and a no lynch only helps mafia or who ever the hell is left..
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