Counter-Terrorism Mafia MAFIA WIN! LSU AND SPIESR KILLED!

[Simon Viavant]

Never mind I think it's only suspect's double vote on him, but I still won't vote just yet.

Spiesr - if we're wrong, don't rush the kill.

I just realized something:
If suspect was converted we're basically at lynch or lose, and he could be on a team with LSU since their in agreement and could be just ending the day on sam.

I think we need a bit more time.
First of all, unvote

I need to think a bit.

Going for no lynch and thinking this over might be good.

[Falkomagno]

Yes. it convinced me. The fact that in the night was kill just the mafia leader, without any town kill, confirm the fact that exist a vig, and the mafia is not killing in night and, could be converting townies.

Besides , the only replication of sam has a big mistake, saying that jnd could block stroop, when jnd said that he blocks me. It puts sam in the higer probability of being scum, and becomes in my first suspect by now.

So, at the beginnig of the game, there was 3 scum, and 7 pro-town

No lynch, and then no NK, but possible, a convertion.

At day 2, would be 6 townies, and 4 scum

With the imminent lynch of thez, he kill himself, carrying pmc with him, and letting 5 townies and 3 scum

then, we lynch a town who didn't say nothing to defend himself, so we were 4 townies - 3 scum

At night, if mafia converted a townie, we would be at 3 townie and 4 scum, and we lose. No matter if the vig killed the mafia leader, because we would be at 3-3 and lose anyway.

it leads me to the next:
1. Terrorist can not convert anymore, since the only one who could convert was stroop, and was killed before he could convert anybody (that sounds odd, but possible)

2. all this thing about convert is Bs, and I would be very confusing.

So, I would like to hear what do you think , before we kill sam, that, is deserving his lynch with all his lurking and replies full of mistakes

[Falkomagno]

Noticed that, when I was writing, simon did two post, so, In my last post I was refering that Spiesr convince me, not simon

[Simon Viavant]

Yes. it convinced me. The fact that in the night was kill just the mafia leader, without any town kill, confirm the fact that exist a vig, and the mafia is not killing in night and, could be converting townies.

Besides , the only replication of sam has a big mistake, saying that jnd could block stroop, when jnd said that he blocks me. It puts sam in the higer probability of being scum, and becomes in my first suspect by now.

So, at the beginnig of the game, there was 3 scum, and 7 pro-town

No lynch, and then no NK, but possible, a convertion.

At day 2, would be 6 townies, and 4 scum

With the imminent lynch of thez, he kill himself, carrying pmc with him, and letting 5 townies and 3 scum

then, we lynch a town who didn't say nothing to defend himself, so we were 4 townies - 3 scum

At night, if mafia converted a townie, we would be at 3 townie and 4 scum, and we lose. No matter if the vig killed the mafia leader, because we would be at 3-3 and lose anyway.

it leads me to the next:
1. Terrorist can not convert anymore, since the only one who could convert was stroop, and was killed before he could convert anybody (that sounds odd, but possible)

2. all this thing about convert is Bs, and I would be very confusing.

So, I would like to hear what do you think , before we kill sam, that, is deserving his lynch with all his lurking and replies full of mistakes

You have 3 people converted, there were only 2 nights, we'd be at 4 townies and 2 scum right now.

Guys we probably can't afford to lose this one.
I think suspect possibly could be converted, which means that if we lynch a townie tonight, they'll have a vote majority tomorrow, making tonight lynch or lose if suspect was converted.
Plus this whole bandwagon is suspicious, I think LSU and Suspect are now scumbuddies, and will win tomorrow unless we lynch one of them.
Another possibility is that LSU and Sam are scumbuddies, so either way the safest thing to do is to lynch LSU.
Vote LSU

[Suspect101]

Yes. it convinced me. The fact that in the night was kill just the mafia leader, without any town kill, confirm the fact that exist a vig, and the mafia is not killing in night and, could be converting townies.

Besides , the only replication of sam has a big mistake, saying that jnd could block stroop, when jnd said that he blocks me. It puts sam in the higer probability of being scum, and becomes in my first suspect by now.

So, at the beginnig of the game, there was 3 scum, and 7 pro-town

No lynch, and then no NK, but possible, a convertion.

At day 2, would be 6 townies, and 4 scum

With the imminent lynch of thez, he kill himself, carrying pmc with him, and letting 5 townies and 3 scum

then, we lynch a town who didn't say nothing to defend himself, so we were 4 townies - 3 scum

At night, if mafia converted a townie, we would be at 3 townie and 4 scum, and we lose. No matter if the vig killed the mafia leader, because we would be at 3-3 and lose anyway.

it leads me to the next:
1. Terrorist can not convert anymore, since the only one who could convert was stroop, and was killed before he could convert anybody (that sounds odd, but possible)

2. all this thing about convert is Bs, and I would be very confusing.

So, I would like to hear what do you think , before we kill sam, that, is deserving his lynch with all his lurking and replies full of mistakes

You have 3 people converted, there were only 2 nights, we'd be at 4 townies and 2 scum right now.

Guys we probably can't afford to lose this one.
I think suspect possibly could be converted, which means that if we lynch a townie tonight, they'll have a vote majority tomorrow, making tonight lynch or lose if suspect was converted.
Plus this whole bandwagon is suspicious, I think LSU and Suspect are now scumbuddies, and will win tomorrow unless we lynch one of them.
Another possibility is that LSU and Sam are scumbuddies, so either way the safest thing to do is to lynch LSU.
Vote LSU

No one countered LSU's claim of being a FBI informant. This role is almost guaranteed to be in this game. This is why I jumped on Sam's Bandwagon. I explained why I took speiser vote, it was the logial pick at the time.

Let me give you another possibility: Sam and Simon are scum buddies and simon is trying to pass the blame.
Simon what role did you claim? communter?... not a very logial role in this game, and you claimed it without any pressure on you.

This is what is wrong with your scernerio:
There are 6 of us left. if we lynch sam, and he is town, speiser kills lsu. If we do not win, which we should right there, that leaves 4 of us left. I will have 2 votes, if I decide to take one, which right now will be yours if Sam is scum. That only give me 2 votes when it takes 3 to lynch. I do not have a majority.

If sam is scum, speiser needs to kill you. If he is not, he needs to kill LSU.

Also, I think Falko is wrong. I think there is only 1 mafia left. In a 10 player game, if it is cult, starting with 3 maifa is almost guaranteed to win for the scum. It is odd how Falko would pick to start with 3, how would he know?

Lets assume three though. no lynch day one. Night one a player gets recruited. that is 4 v 6. day two we lost 1 town and they lost a scum. 3 v 5. we also lynched a town. 3 v 4. Night 3 speiser gets stroop. 2.v 4 right now. We need to lynch sam, at best (if started out with 2 maifa) we win right there at wosrt this make it 1 v 3. in the morning.

Here is my solution to this whole problem: We lynch sam.
If sam is scum, speiser kills Simon.
If sam is town, speiser kills LSU and I guarantee not to take anyone's vote tonight. We will have a 3 v 1 advantage in the morning. If I do I will not have a majority to lynch, and speiser can kill me tomorrow night.

This is a guaranteed plan for a win for the town, which I have pretty much stated before. I am not sure why Simon is not voting other than he is scum as well.

[Hologram]

Vote Count:
sam_levi_11 (3) – LSU Tiger Josh, Suspect101 x2
LSU Tiger Josh (1) – Simon Viavant

Not Voting: sam_levi_11, Falkomagno

[Falkomagno]

let's accepted that right now we are at 4T v 2S.
By now, my sure vote will go for sam, but I'm waiting that he replies, and, at least he could explain all of this, he will be lynch, -it's just that I really want to hear him, to aviod a mistake as in jnd.-

Now, if we lynch a sam, there will be one of this:

1. Sam flip as scum. so his scum buddy has to be simon.
2. Sam flip as town, so, the two scum remain are LSU and...suspect

the worst scenario would be if spiers is scum ....

[sam_levi_11]

Can i have some sort of help with what i have to answer, as its a bit jumbled up and cionfusing now iv come back from parties this weekend, i seem to have missed alot.

[spiesr]

I think that the terrorist started with 2 players (who have both died) and recruited 2 new ones. It appears that it was Sam recruited on night 1, and someone on night 2. I think the most likely person to have been recruited night 2 is Suspect.

So I propose that we lynch Sam today.
If he is town I kill LSU tonight.
If he is scum then we have some choices. I propose that I kill Suspect, but this is open to discussion.

We know that either sam has been recruited or that LSU is lying and should be lynched.

[sam_levi_11]

Well if that is what it is down to, then vote LSU. I was not visited at all, and there is nothing more i can say to convince you so... yer...

[Suspect101]

I think that the terrorist started with 2 players (who have both died) and recruited 2 new ones. It appears that it was Sam recruited on night 1, and someone on night 2. I think the most likely person to have been recruited night 2 is Suspect.

So I propose that we lynch Sam today.
If he is town I kill LSU tonight.
If he is scum then we have some choices. I propose that I kill Suspect, but this is open to discussion.

We know that either sam has been recruited or that LSU is lying and should be lynched.

I agree with everything, except the part about killing me.... why exactly do you want to do that?

I think that if Sam is scum, you need to kill Simon.

Something that I have been thinking about that I can not answer. If LSU is scum, it makes no sense to kill Sam, he would need to kill Spiesr, the only threat to him at night. Why go after Sam with a flase claim when you could just as easily go after spiesr?

[spiesr]

Something that I have been thinking about that I can not answer. If LSU is scum, it makes no sense to kill Sam, he would need to kill Spiesr, the only threat to him at night. Why go after Sam with a flase claim when you could just as easily go after spiesr?

I don't know, maybe he is telling the truth then?

I agree with everything, except the part about killing me.... why exactly do you want to do that?
I think that if Sam is scum, you need to kill Simon.

Because I think the terrorists would more likely recruit you who was considered town than Simon who was in suspicion. Also, your power is more threatening in the hands of the terrorists than his. Besides, he will probably commute away tonight.
But I will leave who I kill tonight when Sam comes up terrorist to discussion for now.

Who do we need to get to vote for Sam to end this day?

[spiesr]

I see, Falkomagno please cast your vote for sam_levi_11. LSU has strong evidence that he has been recruited into the terrorist group.

[sam_levi_11]

If you do, then nice one, lsu has fooled you all.

[Suspect101]

If you do, then nice one, lsu has fooled you all.

This maybe true, but it will give us a lot of much needed information. If you are town, then you will be giving yourself for the good of it, still win in the end and we will build a memorial in your honor. But lets find out who is lying.

[sam_levi_11]

If you do, then nice one, lsu has fooled you all.

This maybe true, but it will give us a lot of much needed information. If you are town, then you will be giving yourself for the good of it, still win in the end and we will build a memorial in your honor. But lets find out who is lying.

The memorial will do thank you.

[Falkomagno]

vote sam die scum¡¡¡

that responses makes so clear that sam is scum...let's see

[sam_levi_11]

haha gl guys, unlucky, you have genuinly been led on by LSU.

[Hologram]

Vote Count:
sam_levi_11 (4) – LSU Tiger Josh, Suspect101 x2, Falkomagno
LSU Tiger Josh (2) – Simon Viavant, sam_levi_11

We have a lynch. Lynch scene coming soon.

[Suspect101]

haha gl guys, unlucky, you have genuinly been led on by LSU.

Because there is a lynch scene comming up, I must agree. Spiesr, you know what to do.

[Hologram]

MOB FORMS ON CAPITOL STEPS

Late this afternoon a mob formed on the Capitol Steps, demanding the immediate resignation of Governor sam_levi_11. Police and National Guard units were immediately deployed to protect the governor, but it is unclear if this action has dissuaded the mob at all. After speaking to several mob members, the general consensus seems to be that sam_levi_11 hasn't been doing enough to stop the terrorist threat. There has been rumors that a single gunshot was heard in the vicinity of what would be the Governor's Office, but officials have refused to confirm or deny.



sam_levi_11 (Governor) lynched!

NIGHT 3 STARTS NOW! YOU HAVE 48 HOURS!

[Hologram]

MIDNIGHT BRAWL LEADS TO EXPLOSION IN STREET

Around Midnight tonight a commotion was overheard outside the residence of Officer spiesr. A dark figure was seen trying to enter the house when spiesr, apparently awakened by the noise, surprised the burglar and knocked him out into the street. Shortly after, a large explosion occurred, leaving both Officer spiesr and his assailant dead.

COUNCILOR SUSPECT101 TAKES CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT IN ABSENCE OF GOVERNOR

Early this morning, Councilor Suspect, with the support of a majority of the town's residents, marched to Capitol Hill and declared himself Ayatollah. "I usher in a new golden age, a golden age of freedom from the corruption and squalor that we have been assailed with for so long. No longer shall we be subject to pornographic images from The Great Satan. All hail Allah and his Prophet, Mohammed!"

LSU Tiger Josh (Terrorist) killed!
spiesr (Vigilante) killed!

MAFIA ENDGAME

[Hologram]

Action Log:
Day 1 Vote Count:
Suspect101 (2) –jnd94, LSU Tiger Josh
pmchugh (2) – Falkomagno, Stroop
Falkomagno (1) – pmchugh

Day 1 actions:
sam_levi_11 pardons Suspect101

Night 1 actions:
jnd94 roleblocks Falkomagno.
Suspect101 buys LSU Tiger Josh’s vote
Stroop recruits Suspect101
Simon Viavant commutes.

Day 2 Vote Count:
Falkomagno (1) – sam_levi_11
jnd94 (5) – Suspect101 x2, Simon Viavant, Falkomagno, Stroop
LSU Tiger Josh (1) - spiesr

Day 2 Actions:
Thezzarus bombs pmchugh

Night 2 Actions:
spiesr kills Stroop
Suspect101 buys spiesr’s vote

Day 3 Vote Count:
sam_levi_11 (4) – LSU Tiger Josh, Suspect101 x2, Falkomagno
LSU Tiger Josh (2) – Simon Viavant, sam_levi_11

Night 3 Actions:
Suspect101 buys Falkomagno’s vote
LSU Tiger Josh kills spiesr

[Hologram]

First off, congratulations to Stroop, LSU Tiger Josh, Suspect101, and Thezzarus.

Second, I'd like to explain the game mechanics in detail, since a lot of you came close to figuring it out, but no one quite got it.

I originally came up with the idea of a Terrorist Mafia where the Mafia, being in the minority, could not kill without hurting themselves. I thought it would create some very interesting gameplay and force the Mafia to play a lot more strategically than they usually are. I must specifically applaud LSU and Suspect for such an incredible endgame. I didn't even realize the possibility of LSU killing spiesr then Suspect taking a vote and giving himself a majority vote.

Anyway, a lot of you figured out that the Mafia worked more like a cult than anything else. I decided to let the Mafia be able to daykill and/or nightkill, due to their unusual killing circumstances while Stroop was given the ability to recruit someone at night. He was also not actually able to bomb anyone, had to have someone else do his dirty work.

I didn't include a doctor or cop mainly because I didn't think it plausible that a cop could discover someone as a terrorist, and the doctor would be put in an awkward situation with probable daykills happening. I did however give you the vigilante, which I thought was a good trade, especially since you would be able to tell who the Mafia was when they killed one of you, giving you all the clues of a cop.

Anyway, this game was especially exciting for me, being able to see all the cards being played, and it worked out to far exceed my expectations. Good job all of you.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Thanks for the game Hologram and good game guys. Awesome job Stroop, Suspect, and Thez.