Icepeak mafia [Town wins!]

[dunc_2007]

I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

I find this post astoundingly scummy. As soon as pmc questions him, he gets all defensive and lashes out with "that's a scummy thing to say!"

I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

Its not a false accusation why on earth would you want to say you are not the cop, if you don't want the cop to be found?

You are assuming that I am actually not the cop.

Now he's backtracking. First he claimed not to be cop, now he's saying it's a possibility. Gotta keep your options for a fake claim open, eh spaceghost? Vote Spaceghost.

[Natewolfman]

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Announcement: Deadline

The deadline for day 1 is set at exactly 9 days from the time of this post.

Deadline: Saturday, January 17th
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NATE LOOK HERE^^

lmao... thank you pmc

[spiesr]

Anyone could be the cop, it's not necessarily LSU.

Yes, anybody could be the cop. But if anybody else is the cop they would have stated nate's claim as false. LSU is the only who hasn't posted since nate's claim, meaning he is the only person who could both be the cop and have proof nate is lying. If anyone else the the cop they have confirmed nate's claim by not finding proof in their role that he was lying. So either LSU is the cop and nate lied, or anybody could be the cop and nate is telling the truth. I am not trying to figure out who the cop is, I am trying to figure out if nate's claim is true or not.

[spaceghst44]

I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

Its not a false accusation why on earth would you want to say you are not the cop, if you don't want the cop to be found?

You are assuming that I am actually not the cop.

I guess what I should have said was that everyone who has denied the cop role actually is not the cop.

[farside22]

Anyone could be the cop, it's not necessarily LSU.

Yes, anybody could be the cop. But if anybody else is the cop they would have stated nate's claim as false. LSU is the only who hasn't posted since nate's claim, meaning he is the only person who could both be the cop and have proof nate is lying. If anyone else the the cop they have confirmed nate's claim by not finding proof in their role that he was lying. So either LSU is the cop and nate lied, or anybody could be the cop and nate is telling the truth. I am not trying to figure out who the cop is, I am trying to figure out if nate's claim is true or not.

Can anyone please tell me why you are not voting this guy? Good lord. Now he is deducing who the cop may be and letting people know (IE scum buddy). Unless you guys have day talking mafia at this site and I'm unaware this is horribly anti town either way.

[spaceghst44]

yeah but now dunc with his rash judgement looks a little scummy to me as well.

[cena-rules]

I think we all need to stop looking for the cop and need to work on getting someone lynched. As for who.... Im open to hear some arguements against people

[spaceghst44]

ok, well there are 10 of us left.

my guess is 2 or 3 mafia, 1 cop, 1 doctor, 1 seer, 1 angel, 1 or 2 werewolves, and 1, 2, 3 vanilla townies (including 1 that might have wolfsbane).
I am not sure I believe a deputy role. If you were mafia, you would need to claim a role that no one else has and no one else could deny to look innocent.

My suspects:

Nate (for reason mentioned above), spiesr (wanting to bring cop out of hiding), dunc (claiming me out of no where, possibly trying to get me because I am on to something)

[Natewolfman]

dunc (claiming me out of no where, possibly trying to get me because I am on to something)

onto what exactly? at that time i dont remember you being exactly on the edge of controversy...

[spiesr]

Do you even read my posts? I am not trying to find the cop. I have no idea who the cop is. I am trying to find out if nate's claim is true.

[dunc_2007]

yeah but now dunc with his rash judgement looks a little scummy to me as well.

Oh yes, because anyone who suspects who has to be scum, right? You're merely reinforcing my suspision of you by once again accusing someone who looks at you the wrong way.

[drake_259]

13 players

2 werewolfs
2 Mafia
1 Doc
1 Angel
1 Seer
1 Cop
1 Wolfsbane
1 Bulletproof
1 roleblocker

thats 11 and thats what i think and i am going to say thats what i am going to say thats in it until its proven wrong

we have 2 roles left it could be and extra mafia and werewolf but that is too much so no so its 2 extra townies, nate could be a deputy but i think hes lying and he is either a seer or a cop

[spaceghst44]

yeah but now dunc with his rash judgement looks a little scummy to me as well.

Oh yes, because anyone who suspects who has to be scum, right? You're merely reinforcing my suspision of you by once again accusing someone who looks at you the wrong way.

Nope. Not the fact that you accused me or "looked" at me the wrong way. It was the intensities of your actions.

Now he's backtracking. First he claimed not to be cop, now he's saying it's a possibility. Gotta keep your options for a fake claim open, eh spaceghost? Vote Spaceghost.

You even rushed in to change your vote. That to me seems scummy.

I was only stating that people are making assumptions on what other people are saying and not facts.

[pmchugh]

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Announcement: Deadline

The deadline for day 1 is set at exactly 9 days from the time of this post.

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NATE LOOK HERE^^

lmao... thank you pmc

No problem

I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

Its not a false accusation why on earth would you want to say you are not the cop, if you don't want the cop to be found?

You are assuming that I am actually not the cop.

I guess what I should have said was that everyone who has denied the cop role actually is not the cop.

What? Answer me plainly and clearly why did you vote speisr for wanting the cop to claim and then support him by claiming not to be the cop?

Do you even read my posts? I am not trying to find the cop. I have no idea who the cop is. I am trying to find out if nate's claim is true.

Really you have constantly pushed for the cop to claim and continue even now to give hints.

Just because no-one speaks up doesn't mean its 100% clear that nate is town, in fact it makes very little difference. Im sure there are many people here who if they were the cop they wouldnt claim if they didnt know about the deputy as it puts a big target on their back and is not even assured to be correct, their could be a deputy he did not know about.

Im beggining to agree with farside, I reckon the mafia could be speisr/ nate not sure about the werewolves yet but next on my scum list is space.

ok, well there are 10 of us left.

my guess is 2 or 3 mafia, 1 cop, 1 doctor, 1 seer, 1 angel, 1 or 2 werewolves, and 1, 2, 3 vanilla townies (including 1 that might have wolfsbane).
I am not sure I believe a deputy role. If you were mafia, you would need to claim a role that no one else has and no one else could deny to look innocent.

I think this is NV (non vanilla) but im not sure.

[spaceghst44]

The reason I clamied I was not the cop and posted my other responses is to raise doubt as to who the cop is.

[farside22]

The reason I clamied I was not the cop and posted my other responses is to raise doubt as to who the cop is.

This makes no sense. All you did was tip off to the mafia (if you are not scum) that you are not the cop. Good job (sarcasm)

[spiesr]

Really you have constantly pushed for the cop to claim and continue even now to give hints.

What do you mean I am giving hints?

Just because no-one speaks up doesn't mean its 100% clear that nate is town, in fact it makes very little difference. I'm sure there are many people here who if they were the cop they wouldn't claim if they didn't know about the deputy as it puts a big target on their back and is not even assured to be correct, their could be a deputy he did not know about.

If nate's claim is true then the cop would only be able to investigate on the nights that nate can't. So by looking at their role the cop would know for certain if nate is telling the truth or not. So if the cop can investigate only half the nights nate is telling the truth and they say nothing. We therefore believe nate's claim as nobody countered it in any way. If, on the other hand the cop can investigate every night then nate is lying and the cop (in my opinion) would say that nate is lying and we would lynch him as scum (or werewolf). The doctor&angle would then protect the cop.

Since no one outed nate as lying I believe he is telling the truth and we should move on.

[spaceghst44]

The reason I clamied I was not the cop and posted my other responses is to raise doubt as to who the cop is.

This makes no sense. All you did was tip off to the mafia (if you are not scum) that you are not the cop. Good job (sarcasm)

Please tell me how I tipped anyone off, from what I said, you can not deduce that anyone is the cop. not me, not you, not anyone. Your smart (sarcasm)

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Unvote Vote Spiesr

Again I am not going to claim cop although even if I was the cop I wouldn't go around claiming it this early to satisfy your scummy needs. Trying to help out scum(mafia and werewolves) is not going to work in this town.

[dunc_2007]

Do you even read my posts? I am not trying to find the cop. I have no idea who the cop is. I am trying to find out if nate's claim is true.

At first, I agreed with what you were trying to do. I mean, people would want the cop to counterclaim if a scum claimed cop right? It's the same idea here. But then, I found this quote:

So I guess somebody needs say if their roll confirms or counters nate so we can figure out what to do...

Looks like you origanally wanted the cop to expose himself even if nate was innocent. Care to explain that one?

Nope. Not the fact that you accused me or "looked" at me the wrong way. It was the intensities of your actions.

Mafia has a way of making people come off as intense. I didn't mean to be intense; I merely looked at your actions, and found them to be scummy.

[spaceghst44]

Do you even read my posts? I am not trying to find the cop. I have no idea who the cop is. I am trying to find out if nate's claim is true.

At first, I agreed with what you were trying to do. I mean, people would want the cop to counterclaim if a scum claimed cop right? It's the same idea here. But then, I found this quote:

So I guess somebody needs say if their roll confirms or counters nate so we can figure out what to do...

Looks like you origanally wanted the cop to expose himself even if nate was innocent. Care to explain that one?

Nope. Not the fact that you accused me or "looked" at me the wrong way. It was the intensities of your actions.

Mafia has a way of making people come off as intense. I didn't mean to be intense; I merely looked at your actions, and found them to be scummy.

Why the quick change of the vote then? why not just state that I was acting scummy? That was a pretty quick trigger pull, no?

I also am starting to rethink Nate, while the deputy claim I believe flase, I am not sure of the reason, might be legit, might not be, but the more I think the more I feel it is legit.

I am keeping my vote with spiesr until further notice.

[drake_259]

spiesr you really want the cop to reveal himself the cop knows that if hes lying its best to keep himself hidden and reveal himself later in the game while with an extra scum prehaps so thats 2 for the price of 1

Vote: spiesr

[spiesr]

Wait, so you are saying, drake, that if the cop knew someone was mafia/werewolf he should not say anything and let that player be considered cleared for now. That he should wait and risk us never finding out if he get's unexspectantly night killed? You are also acting like the cop would instantly die if he came out now. The doc & angle are still alive and would protect him for at least a night or two.

[pmchugh]

Wait, so you are saying, drake, that if the cop knew someone was mafia/werewolf he should not say anything and let that player be considered cleared for now. That he should wait and risk us never finding out if he get's unexspectantly night killed? You are also acting like the cop would instantly die if he came out now. The doc & angle are still alive and would protect him for at least a night or two.

But what if we g oto lynch nate and he is telling the truth? Their could be a cop who does not know about the deputy. Your post earlier about the cop getting an alterantive night investigation i think is worng, i think the cop gets an investigation every night.

Im worried about the influence of farside, not long after joining he diverted the nate lynch and picked out speisr instead. I wouldnt be surprised if you turned up as nate's scum buddy as you also put a good suspicion on me as well (nates prosecutor) without coming outright and defending nate. Maybe Im being paranoid but ive got my eye on you.

[farside22]

I'm not saying I believe nate or not. I'm giving him a night to prove his claim which Sierra mentioned as well. I had the same thought to see if nate is truly deputy or lying scum.
spiesr you are a ball of contradiction.