Resort Mafia Endgame, The Grand Finale

[safariguy5]

This chart is pretty much correct. I choose how many to block every night. I'm not sure who I'm looking at to block right now. Someone asked about me doing it during the day...I don't know. I assumed it was a night ability, but maybe I can do it during the day. I'll have to ask the mod.

If you don't mind, please state who you will block, so we could check whether you are telling the truth. I know who I'd want to block, but I won't force my opinion on anyone else.

I don't know yet. You can tell me who would try to block. I still have 5 days to figure it out.

Lol, shouldn't it be June 1st? Anyways.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Hmm, well this game is certainly original.

I'm pretty much sure that chap's claim is true, unless he's some pulling some serious evil mastermind trick on us, that doesn't look like a fake claim he could pull off.

Of course there's always the possibility that he's actually scum(while having that role), but with how usefull he could be it doesn't make sense for him to be lynched now and we should indeed test his claim instead.

Question chap: Do you find out which of your targets was roleblocked? Someone else asked as well, but I don't think you answered.

I'm still puzzled about the daykill.
It seems unlikely to me that all of the scene was just flavour, I'm guessing that the killer was actually redirected for whatever reason.
I'm also guessing that the DK is a regular power rather than a one-off thing, because it really would make no sense to waste a one-off power on D1 like that.

One last thing:

Ok, now chapcrap's at L-2 or L-3 (I lost count somewhere somehow).
Vote Chapcrap
now he's either at L-1 or L-2
better claim chapcrap. May be the only way to save yourself.

You had been saying for a while that you found him suspicious, but not enough so to vote him. Then without giving any further reasoning you're suddenly willing to possibly put him at L-1. Care to explain?

[chapcrap]

My ability is only at night, for sure.

And I do think that I get info from the mod. Guys, we are way past the May 1st deadline, we need to pick up the pace!!

[evilchaos]

The deadline is before the game even started? lmao

[shieldgenerator7]

@Haggis, I voted after he claimed roleblocker. I put more pressure on him because he didn't say his full claim. After he said his full claim and it sounded believable, I unvoted. And if I didn't, Unvote
I honestly don't know who else to pursue right now, maybe I'll go back through the thread to try and find some leads.
Keep thinking of who to roleblock, chap.

[Talapus]

@Haggis, I voted after he claimed roleblocker. I put more pressure on him because he didn't say his full claim. After he said his full claim and it sounded believable, I unvoted. And if I didn't, Unvote
I honestly don't know who else to pursue right now, maybe I'll go back through the thread to try and find some leads.
Keep thinking of who to roleblock, chap.

Wait, you can talk? Why only pop in now? Why not pop in when the death scene was posted and you were added. We did notice you just showed up. Are you the ? voter?

[evilchaos]

@Haggis, I voted after he claimed roleblocker. I put more pressure on him because he didn't say his full claim. After he said his full claim and it sounded believable, I unvoted. And if I didn't, Unvote
I honestly don't know who else to pursue right now, maybe I'll go back through the thread to try and find some leads.
Keep thinking of who to roleblock, chap.

Wait, you can talk? Why only pop in now? Why not pop in when the death scene was posted and you were added. We did notice you just showed up. Are you the ? voter?

Wrong game, Tal. lmao

[Talapus]

@Haggis, I voted after he claimed roleblocker. I put more pressure on him because he didn't say his full claim. After he said his full claim and it sounded believable, I unvoted. And if I didn't, Unvote
I honestly don't know who else to pursue right now, maybe I'll go back through the thread to try and find some leads.
Keep thinking of who to roleblock, chap.

Wait, you can talk? Why only pop in now? Why not pop in when the death scene was posted and you were added. We did notice you just showed up. Are you the ? voter?

Wrong game, Tal. lmao

HAHAHAHAHAHA, sorry all. Oh wiat, this game. I'm not sorry, i never apoligize for anything. You must have mistaken my questions. Trying to sully my good name. I need a martini.

[shieldgenerator7]

@Haggis, I voted after he claimed roleblocker. I put more pressure on him because he didn't say his full claim. After he said his full claim and it sounded believable, I unvoted. And if I didn't, Unvote
I honestly don't know who else to pursue right now, maybe I'll go back through the thread to try and find some leads.
Keep thinking of who to roleblock, chap.

Wait, you can talk? Why only pop in now? Why not pop in when the death scene was posted and you were added. We did notice you just showed up. Are you the ? voter?

Wrong game, Tal. lmao

HAHAHAHAHAHA, sorry all. Oh wiat, this game. I'm not sorry, i never apoligize for anything. You must have mistaken my questions. Trying to sully my good name. I need a martini.

Here's your drink, sir. Enjoy!

[safariguy5]

Yeah, I'm not sure about the Dayscene, but if past history is any indication, people with vig abilities tend to be very trigger happy. Could be a day SKer too, which is much more dangerous.

[Mr. Squirrel]

So are we going to choose a target here or am I going to be lynched (for reasons that I don't know)?

[Mr. Squirrel]

So are we going to choose a target here or am I going to be lynched (for reasons that I don't know)?

Swami Pravi say / is mean for giving me a pr

[evilchaos]

So are we going to choose a target here or am I going to be lynched (for reasons that I don't know)?

Swami Pravi say / is mean for giving me a pr

I know the feeling. I fail at using my PR in asylum.

I think we should find a more likely target to stick with the 50/50 chance of being lynched. Squirrel doesn't deserve it at all. His role seems genuine to me.

[chapcrap]

So are we going to choose a target here or am I going to be lynched (for reasons that I don't know)?

Swami Pravi say / is mean for giving me a pr

I know the feeling. I fail at using my PR in asylum.

I think we should find a more likely target to stick with the 50/50 chance of being lynched. Squirrel doesn't deserve it at all. His role seems genuine to me.

I had been thinking the same thing about Squirrel.

Also, no worries on the deadline, / extended it a month, so we're all good!

[Mr. Squirrel]

So are we going to choose a target here or am I going to be lynched (for reasons that I don't know)?

Swami Pravi say / is mean for giving me a pr

I know the feeling. I fail at using my PR in asylum.

I think we should find a more likely target to stick with the 50/50 chance of being lynched. Squirrel doesn't deserve it at all. His role seems genuine to me.

I had been thinking the same thing about Squirrel.

Also, no worries on the deadline, / extended it a month, so we're all good!

That's three days from now

[evilchaos]

Yeah, he gave us a one month extension from approx. one month ago. lol

We have 3-4 days. If we can't find scum by that point (I highly doubt we will), then I think we should find a random lurker to put as the player with the most votes. As I said, Squirrel isn't even close to being scummy. I'm guessing the votes on him are from joke voting, although I don't have the time to look through the thread and check right now.

[Talapus]

Yeah, he gave us a one month extension from approx. one month ago. lol

We have 3-4 days. If we can't find scum by that point (I highly doubt we will), then I think we should find a random lurker to put as the player with the most votes. As I said, Squirrel isn't even close to being scummy. I'm guessing the votes on him are from joke voting, although I don't have the time to look through the thread and check right now.

Well with throwing votes on a radom lurker it may bring them in here to talk to us. Also at this point I think we need to make a decision on who will be getting roleblocked. Ob viously we don't want doc or cops or something along those lines blocked. Honestly I think blocking people lurking would be the best bet but we need it on someone is is semi active so they can at least verify the ability and that they were in fact blocked.

Sobering up since my previous post was a challenge. But it's all good now, I called immigration and had some kitchen staff deported. That cheered me up without the need for a little liquid happiness. Now, I must go over my schedule with the concierge for tomorrow as I refuse to sit in the dining room where I am forced to look at one of you while I eat or share the pool and spa area should I decide to go for a swim.

[Iliad]

Having re-read, I have a case on anark.

He jumps on the chap wagon

I personally find it very odd that you need to reiterate to us that you're friendly and town so many times. Perhaps you are trying to convince yourself? It's day 1 and we don't really have anything solid as of yet, but we have to try something... And I think some pressure on you will not hurt.

Unvote. Vote Chap.

How will putting pressure on me help? Do you want me to just tell you my abilities so that I can get killed my the scum?

By saying that, you'll be killed by scum. The post basically admits to having a power role. Unless, of course, you are scum. This was an obvious attempt to get us to back off the pressure without a claim.

100% agree, there...

Unvote
Vote: Chap

Pushes for for the lynch;

It seems no more legit than any other role, either...

That very easily sounds like an easy cover, too. Chap has already expressed knowledge of this game and its mechanics, so his naivete is a little bullshitty sounding to me.

How do you play the game? How would you block yourself?

I don't buy it at all.

And as soon as the wagon starts to dissapear as people are convinced Anark flip flops and jumps off the wagon;

OK, OK... After having it explained, I think I may buy it.

Unvote

Also the daykiller seemed to go for Talapus and as such it was probably a fairly experienced player who remembers Talapus.
unvote vote anark

I don't know if anark will pop in to claim if a wagon develops on him, but even a speedlynch is better than an accidental one.

[safariguy5]

Yeah, he gave us a one month extension from approx. one month ago. lol

We have 3-4 days. If we can't find scum by that point (I highly doubt we will), then I think we should find a random lurker to put as the player with the most votes. As I said, Squirrel isn't even close to being scummy. I'm guessing the votes on him are from joke voting, although I don't have the time to look through the thread and check right now.

Well with throwing votes on a radom lurker it may bring them in here to talk to us. Also at this point I think we need to make a decision on who will be getting roleblocked. Ob viously we don't want doc or cops or something along those lines blocked. Honestly I think blocking people lurking would be the best bet but we need it on someone is is semi active so they can at least verify the ability and that they were in fact blocked.

Sobering up since my previous post was a challenge. But it's all good now, I called immigration and had some kitchen staff deported. That cheered me up without the need for a little liquid happiness. Now, I must go over my schedule with the concierge for tomorrow as I refuse to sit in the dining room where I am forced to look at one of you while I eat or share the pool and spa area should I decide to go for a swim.

Well in terms of who to roleblock, we have no idea who might be power or not, the only thing that might prevent accidental roleblocking of PR's is to limit the number of players he chooses to block for now at least.

[chapcrap]

I agree with Iliad about Anarkistsdream. I had been thinking the same thing.

I think it would be better to block more people than less. I get more info and there's a greater chance that the scum is blocked.

People who I've thought about roleblocking:

Anarkistsdream
evilchaos: although I think he's ok for now
F1fth: same as evilchaos
sheildgenerator7: quieter since his new role
VioIet: posted a lot at the beginning, but hardly at all now and when she does it contributes nothing
Haggis_McMutton: is he alive?
pancakemix: when i came up with a questionable list earlier he did nothing to disprove
Fircoal: he's posting all the time all over the site except for here.
Iliad: hasn't done much except for just accuse Anark
TA1LGUNN3R, Streaker and ShaggyDan: been very quiet lately. Dan said he would be though, in all his games

People who I think are town:

Talapus
Commander9
Mr. Squirrel

[evilchaos]

Here are my reads on everyone

Town: Mr. Squirrel, Talapus, F1fth
Leaning Town: safariguy5, Iliad, chapcrap, pancakemix
Null: ShaggyDan, Haggis_McMutton, VioIet, Commander9
Leaning Scum: Shieldgenerator, TA1LGUNN3R, Fircoal, Anarkistsdream
Scum: Streaker

I can post up more detailed info on any one of them if you would like. Here is my case against Streaker.

Streaker posted extensively during the joke voting stage. He bandwagoned onto Shield (the second vote) and stayed on that bandwagon all the way through until the day kill, despite it putting Shield way closer to a lynch than joke voting should. Chap then questioned him for bandwagoning:

Craziness!

Guess I was good not to vote shield...Hmm, before he died he mentioned the BW's on him should be looked at. Streaker and evilchaos? What say you?

He never responded. He also never entered the argument between me and chapcrap at all. He didn't reenter until after chapcrap claimed. Here is what he posted.

Tough call. The role itself fits the theme, and with the level of detail I'm pretty sure it's his actual role. But I think it can easily be a scum role. I mean, why not? With all these rather special roles in the game, why would scum be any different?

If we would know for certain there is no mafia in the game, it would help me believe the town claim. This role would be a good one for mafia.

An addition: like the above post, this role seems almost too powerfull for a 'probably' overloaded town. On the other hand, to scum it would be most usefull if they can block up to 4 players per night (every other night). It would be a perfect role to counter a very powerfull town...

He seems to be looking to lynch the powerful role because he believes it is scummy. He has obviously skimmed (doesn't know that there is no mafia in this game). It isn't scummy to have a powerful role, it's just helpful for town. If we lynched every PR, then we could never win. I completely fail to understand the logic behind lynching a claimed roleblocker with a detailed claim just because they're powerful. This seems incredibly scummy logic to me.

This is the only post he's made since the joke voting stage. Because of this, I don't have all that much to go on, but I think it's the best case we have. He's lurking and seems to be interested in lynching powerful roles for no other reason than that they're powerful.

Unvote (if needed) vote Streaker

[shieldgenerator7]

ha ha i'm always scummy. I think the only reason you doubt my township is because I've been posting less. Very much WIFOM, not much logic.

Anyway, I see we have two valid cases here against Anark and Streaker. We can't go after both of them, but they may both be scum, we don't know. To me, Streaker seems the most scummy especially because of his bandwagoning on shield7, which obviously started as a joke vote and then escalated into a near lynch scene (altough I know it didn't get up that far), right before his death. So I will bandwagon on Streaker to get him to post a little more.
Unvote Vote Streaker
Maybe we will get an explanation for his actions.
And those of you with votes on Mr. Squirrel please take them off so we don't give him the guillotine without proper reasoning.

[evilchaos]

ha ha i'm always scummy. I think the only reason you doubt my township is because I've been posting less. Very much WIFOM, not much logic.

Lurking is very much a scum tell. It isn't WIFOM. If you don't want to come off as scummy, post more.

[shieldgenerator7]

ha ha i'm always scummy. I think the only reason you doubt my township is because I've been posting less. Very much WIFOM, not much logic.

Lurking is very much a scum tell. It isn't WIFOM. If you don't want to come off as scummy, post more.

I would post more but if I don't have much to say or add to the discussion I generally just keep my mouth shut (or my keyboard in this case). Besides, my job keeps me busy enough as it is with all these people running around ordering beers and what not.

[safariguy5]

Looking at Streaker's past performance, he's usually pretty active. Dunno what's causing his activity to drop off, but it's a decent enough Day 1 case.

unvote vote Streaker

ha ha i'm always scummy. I think the only reason you doubt my township is because I've been posting less. Very much WIFOM, not much logic.

Anyway, I see we have two valid cases here against Anark and Streaker. We can't go after both of them, but they may both be scum, we don't know. To me, Streaker seems the most scummy especially because of his bandwagoning on shield7, which obviously started as a joke vote and then escalated into a near lynch scene (altough I know it didn't get up that far), right before his death. So I will bandwagon on Streaker to get him to post a little more.
Unvote Vote Streaker
Maybe we will get an explanation for his actions.
And those of you with votes on Mr. Squirrel please take them off so we don't give him the guillotine without proper reasoning.

So you think that Streaker bandwagonning is scummy and then you turn around and admit to doing the same thing? Doesn't that make you scummy as well?

FoS Shield we should revisit this tomorrow.