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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Stroop on Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:10 am

Unvote, though I couldn't find any reference to an 'Ellemere' on Google... (I am notorious for overlooking the very thing I seek though, so someone should check ;) )
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Selin on Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:36 am

Stroop wrote:Unvote, though I couldn't find any reference to an 'Ellemere' on Google... (I am notorious for overlooking the very thing I seek though, so someone should check ;) )


:^o Why do you unvote, if you can't even find the claimed name in internet?

1) You voted AD as 4th on day 1 (already on page2), in my opinion quite aggressive and unnecessarily early at that point. I'm also not satisfied with your explanation about that.
2) After ace voted you stating you are a scum, you joined the bandwagon of ace as 3rd.
3) On day 2 you jumped in on halo bandwagon again. And now unvoting holo without even questioning seriously his claim although you couldn't find anything in internet.

Vote: stroop

And I believe that we found also the next scum related to stroop. 8-)

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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby mr. incrediball on Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:16 am

hm... i tried a google search too, and the name didn't come up... minor character, anyone? would this minor character fit the beloved princess role.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby dunc_2007 on Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:17 am

wikipedia wrote:While Sabriel and Touchstone are trying to get back to the Old Kingdom, Lirael, Sameth and the Disreputable Dog are trying to save Nicholas Sayre, Sameth's best friend and also the host of the Destroyer. The question becomes one of whether Lirael and Sameth are able to stop The Destroyer from completing its plans for eternal freedom and the destruction of the world and other worlds after this. Orannis is successful in joining the hemispheres that imprisoned him. Nick appears to die in the process of the rejoining. Lirael uses her Rembrancing powers to figure out how the original Seven bound Orannis. During her journey through Death to use the Dark Mirror, she is confronted by and defeats Hedge. In the end, Lirael and her friends defeat Orannis, who must once again bind Orannis by re-enacting the original binding of the Seven with each member holding a bell and adding a bell’s voice. Lirael takes Astarel, and prepares to strike at the hemisphere with a new sword, forged from her panpipes and Nehima, that Sameth made for her. The others include King Touchstone (Ranna) and Abhorsen Sabriel (Saraneth), Sanar and Ryelle (Mosrael), Ellimere (Dyrim), the Disreputable Dog


Holgram, did you mean to say Ellimere?

I guess we're inclined to believe you, because with a claim like that you're pretty much guarenteed to get killed tonight.

On the whole stroop thing, I think it's a pretty weak case. We need to slow down our bandwagons and think them out better, as we've seen with ani, ace, and now holo. So I'm not gonna vote him yet.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby cena-rules on Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:19 am

VOTE COUNT

holo-1-ga7
stroop-1-selin

with 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Hologram on Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:07 pm

dunc_2007 wrote:
wikipedia wrote:While Sabriel and Touchstone are trying to get back to the Old Kingdom, Lirael, Sameth and the Disreputable Dog are trying to save Nicholas Sayre, Sameth's best friend and also the host of the Destroyer. The question becomes one of whether Lirael and Sameth are able to stop The Destroyer from completing its plans for eternal freedom and the destruction of the world and other worlds after this. Orannis is successful in joining the hemispheres that imprisoned him. Nick appears to die in the process of the rejoining. Lirael uses her Rembrancing powers to figure out how the original Seven bound Orannis. During her journey through Death to use the Dark Mirror, she is confronted by and defeats Hedge. In the end, Lirael and her friends defeat Orannis, who must once again bind Orannis by re-enacting the original binding of the Seven with each member holding a bell and adding a bell’s voice. Lirael takes Astarel, and prepares to strike at the hemisphere with a new sword, forged from her panpipes and Nehima, that Sameth made for her. The others include King Touchstone (Ranna) and Abhorsen Sabriel (Saraneth), Sanar and Ryelle (Mosrael), Ellimere (Dyrim), the Disreputable Dog


Holgram, did you mean to say Ellimere?

I guess we're inclined to believe you, because with a claim like that you're pretty much guarenteed to get killed tonight.

On the whole stroop thing, I think it's a pretty weak case. We need to slow down our bandwagons and think them out better, as we've seen with ani, ace, and now holo. So I'm not gonna vote him yet.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Hologram on Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:08 pm

dunc_2007 wrote:
wikipedia wrote:While Sabriel and Touchstone are trying to get back to the Old Kingdom, Lirael, Sameth and the Disreputable Dog are trying to save Nicholas Sayre, Sameth's best friend and also the host of the Destroyer. The question becomes one of whether Lirael and Sameth are able to stop The Destroyer from completing its plans for eternal freedom and the destruction of the world and other worlds after this. Orannis is successful in joining the hemispheres that imprisoned him. Nick appears to die in the process of the rejoining. Lirael uses her Rembrancing powers to figure out how the original Seven bound Orannis. During her journey through Death to use the Dark Mirror, she is confronted by and defeats Hedge. In the end, Lirael and her friends defeat Orannis, who must once again bind Orannis by re-enacting the original binding of the Seven with each member holding a bell and adding a bell’s voice. Lirael takes Astarel, and prepares to strike at the hemisphere with a new sword, forged from her panpipes and Nehima, that Sameth made for her. The others include King Touchstone (Ranna) and Abhorsen Sabriel (Saraneth), Sanar and Ryelle (Mosrael), Ellimere (Dyrim), the Disreputable Dog


Holgram, did you mean to say Ellimere?

I guess we're inclined to believe you, because with a claim like that you're pretty much guarenteed to get killed tonight.

On the whole stroop thing, I think it's a pretty weak case. We need to slow down our bandwagons and think them out better, as we've seen with ani, ace, and now holo. So I'm not gonna vote him yet.

The problem is that we don't have any better cases. We have a lot of really weak cases, but nothing that's going to give us anything of value before our almost guaranteed double-night.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby pancakemix on Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:22 pm

Vote Hologram

Now before you burn me as a heretic, hear me out. People in Skoffin's Madhouse game will understand my point of view on this.

If Holo is telling the truth, then we're at the mercy of the mafia. They kill him when they want to kill him, which could give them an early endgame. If we take him out now, we're stopping them from using him against us. Better to lose the day when we can afford it than when it's the worst possible timing.

If he's lying, lynch all liars. Even if he is a Jester, better to just get mad than get mad and be in a bad position, right?
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby dunc_2007 on Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:52 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Hologram

Now before you burn me as a heretic, hear me out. People in Skoffin's Madhouse game will understand my point of view on this.

If Holo is telling the truth, then we're at the mercy of the mafia. They kill him when they want to kill him, which could give them an early endgame. If we take him out now, we're stopping them from using him against us. Better to lose the day when we can afford it than when it's the worst possible timing.

If he's lying, lynch all liars. Even if he is a Jester, better to just get mad than get mad and be in a bad position, right?


Can't say I agree with you on this one. If holo gets killed overnight, the mafia get another night right after. But if we lynch him, we're down a townie, and the mafia get two extra night kills. I say we leave him for now, and get to lynching someone less risky.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Anarkistsdream on Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:13 pm

dunc_2007 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Vote Hologram

Now before you burn me as a heretic, hear me out. People in Skoffin's Madhouse game will understand my point of view on this.

If Holo is telling the truth, then we're at the mercy of the mafia. They kill him when they want to kill him, which could give them an early endgame. If we take him out now, we're stopping them from using him against us. Better to lose the day when we can afford it than when it's the worst possible timing.

If he's lying, lynch all liars. Even if he is a Jester, better to just get mad than get mad and be in a bad position, right?


Can't say I agree with you on this one. If holo gets killed overnight, the mafia get another night right after. But if we lynch him, we're down a townie, and the mafia get two extra night kills. I say we leave him for now, and get to lynching someone less risky.


I concur with this one.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby ga7 on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:10 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Hologram

Now before you burn me as a heretic, hear me out. People in Skoffin's Madhouse game will understand my point of view on this.

If Holo is telling the truth, then we're at the mercy of the mafia. They kill him when they want to kill him, which could give them an early endgame. If we take him out now, we're stopping them from using him against us. Better to lose the day when we can afford it than when it's the worst possible timing.

If he's lying, lynch all liars. Even if he is a Jester, better to just get mad than get mad and be in a bad position, right?

WTF? Why on earth would we make it easy on the scum by giving them not only 1 extra kill but 2 since they wouldn't have to target Holo???

I'd vote you for it but I think you just didn't realize what you were saying. There's not 30+ people alive waiting to be modkilled in this game :P
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:18 pm

I agree that what PCM said was quite scummy. It would be helping to hand the scum the game on a silver platter since the scum can kill a claimed "beloved princess" at any given time. End result is the same whether it is now or later. Anotherwords I'm not in favor of lynching Hol no matter how scummy he seems at this point unless later in the game we can get a confirmed cop to do a revelation on Hol.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:04 pm

Hello? *taps mic* This thing on?

Where the hell is everyone?
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Hologram on Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:06 pm

Who knows?

My current scum list:
1. PCM
2. Stroop



Vote PCM for trying to get me lynched and giving the mafia even more of an advantage.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby ga7 on Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:57 pm

I think it'd be totally out of character for PCM to make this proposal if he was scum, so I have a hard time believing it. He definitely needs to post though.

After rereading a bit the Stroop case makes sense. He's been awfully low-key and wagonning when the occasion arised, except on day 1 after he had been called out for it.

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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:07 pm

ga7 wrote:I think it'd be totally out of character for PCM to make this proposal if he was scum, so I have a hard time believing it. He definitely needs to post though.

After rereading a bit the Stroop case makes sense. He's been awfully low-key and wagonning when the occasion arised, except on day 1 after he had been called out for it.

Unvote Vote Stroop


Fine, we need a lynch... This may be a wrong move but an even more wrong move would be another no lynch...

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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby Stroop on Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:45 pm

Woops :|

If I don't do this I'll probably be lynched while I sleep, so I'll claim, I don't have an important power role anyway.

I am the Disreputable Dog, I am a town-aligned Nexus.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby cena-rules on Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:48 pm

DEADLINE
YOU GUYS HAVE 100 HOURS OR UNTIL I ACCESS A PC AFTER THAT TO REACH A LYNCH

THATS 11:45PM ON SATURDAY
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby ga7 on Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:53 pm

Since Nexus can't be cleared, I think we should lynch him anyway. Couldn't bother checking the name but well, how important can a dog be :P
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby mr. incrediball on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:07 pm

*forgetting what a nexus is... >.<*

i think pcm's just trying to avert a disaster from another game with that proposal... still don't agree with him

just wondering, why did stroop specifically have to mention his role was town-aligned? are nexi usually third party?
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby dunc_2007 on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:24 pm

How can a nexus not be cleared? If a cop targets him, and he's scum, he'll come up as scum. If he's telling the truth, the cop will investigate someone else instead. Right?

Oh, I also found this on wikipedia:

wikipedia wrote:Unexpectedly, the Disreputable Dog takes the blow for Lirael and disappears into Death. In the end, though, the Disreputable Dog gives Nick back his life, and they all live rather happily (though Lirael did lose her hand as the Dog saved her in the last strike, she will be made a new one of gold by Sameth.)


Could this Dog fellow also have some sort of bodyguard role that will take the bullet should Lireal die?
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby cena-rules on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:31 pm

I lied


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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby ga7 on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:36 pm

Nexus = ALL ACTIONS get bounced off to someone random if targeted. A cop investigation will investigate someone random with no way of knowing who, a kill can even bounce back to the killer, etc. Which means any town actions on him are useless and scum won't try their luck on him. Basically useless role once claimed, and I think there's a good enough chance he's lying so... A nexus is normally always town btw.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby dunc_2007 on Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:05 pm

Ahh, that makes more sense. I figured a cop would get the name of who they were investigating instead of the nexus.
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Re: The Old Kingdom Trilogy Mafia 2 DEAD DAY 2

Postby ga7 on Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:12 pm

Nope, that's the problem and that's why nexus is such a "good" fakeclaim for scum. If we want to avoid a no lynch I'm more inclined to think why take the risk since he's scummy and will be useless because of that...
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