Foundation Mafia [6/12] Endgame: Second Foundation Wins.

[dakky21]

Dakky you claimming streak could of killed mets last night i can say for a fact he did not do. i had 1 night kill and used it with the fact that wing turned town as he claimed and checked if his theory of mets and hotshot was correct. in hindsight it was a really bad kill on my behalf and it was my only night kill. so now we have to figure out who killed streak

And I can say you're lying, because I know Streaker most probably killed Mets.
Streaker probably did wanted to kill another target, but he shot Mets because I am the Town Alternator, I switched his target to Mets.
Sorry Mets, my fault, it was based on Wing's readings.

Mitch claimed town, and so far he was honest. Of course it doesn't mean anything, but anyway,

unvote, vote Tim

[aage]

Dakky you claimming streak could of killed mets last night i can say for a fact he did not do. i had 1 night kill and used it with the fact that wing turned town as he claimed and checked if his theory of mets and hotshot was correct. in hindsight it was a really bad kill on my behalf and it was my only night kill. so now we have to figure out who killed streak

And I can say you're lying, because I know Streaker most probably killed Mets.
Streaker probably did wanted to kill another target, but he shot Mets because I am the Town Alternator, I switched his target to Mets.
Sorry Mets, my fault, it was based on Wing's readings.

Mitch claimed town, and so far he was honest. Of course it doesn't mean anything, but anyway,

unvote, vote Tim

Streaker and Tim could both have targeted Mets. This is not conclusive evidence.

Why'd you target Streaker with your action?

[aage]

Serial killers are always one man parties. I've never seen a game with a serial killer team.

So what was the one-shot recruiter part about? Have you ever seen anything like that? I have a lot of questions about it, but I don't want to be accused of trying to lead the discussion into a mechanics debate, so I guess I'll save them for the end.

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Same way I explain Cultists are always one man parties. If someone flips SK, I will bet good money they did not have a partner because SKs never do. An SK with a recruitment power is still a one man party - until he uses the recruit.

[dakky21]

Streaker and Tim could both have targeted Mets. This is not conclusive evidence.

Why'd you target Streaker with your action?

Because he didn't post for 2 whole pages, and not posting while being active in other fields is a sign of being scum.

[degaston]

Wow - this thing went from sci-fi to a cheap detective novel with multiple twists at the end.

[aage]

Streaker and Tim could both have targeted Mets. This is not conclusive evidence.

Why'd you target Streaker with your action?

Because he didn't post for 2 whole pages, and not posting while being active in other fields is a sign of being scum.

Okay, good point. Why do you believe Tim claimed 'protective role' unprovoked, and why do you think he would claim to have killed Streaker if he hadn't?

[dakky21]

Streaker and Tim could both have targeted Mets. This is not conclusive evidence.

Why'd you target Streaker with your action?

Because he didn't post for 2 whole pages, and not posting while being active in other fields is a sign of being scum.

Okay, good point. Why do you believe Tim claimed 'protective role' unprovoked, and why do you think he would claim to have killed Streaker if he hadn't?

Because this is Tim's first game and he said once in live chat "the point is to stay alive" and this just justifies it.

[aage]

Why do you believe Tim claimed 'protective role' unprovoked, and why do you think he would claim to have killed Streaker if he hadn't?

Because this is Tim's first game and he said once in live chat "the point is to stay alive" and this just justifies it.

That's actually a good theory.


Tim, you said your role was 'protective' but you also claimed a vigi shot. How do you explain being a protective role and also being able to kill people?
I'll vote Tim since I'm basically asking him to claim anyway.

[TimWoodbury]

Why do you believe Tim claimed 'protective role' unprovoked, and why do you think he would claim to have killed Streaker if he hadn't?

Because this is Tim's first game and he said once in live chat "the point is to stay alive" and this just justifies it.

That's actually a good theory.


Tim, you said your role was 'protective' but you also claimed a vigi shot. How do you explain being a protective role and also being able to kill people?
I'll vote Tim since I'm basically asking him to claim anyway.

since i cant quote mail messages i will say

i had a shot kill i used it on mets i guess i targets mets and dakky used his change thingy to make streaker hit mets, the protect that im talking of is a 1 shot doc protect thus why i can protect unless i know who im protecting

[TimWoodbury]

Dakky you claimming streak could of killed mets last night i can say for a fact he did not do. i had 1 night kill and used it with the fact that wing turned town as he claimed and checked if his theory of mets and hotshot was correct. in hindsight it was a really bad kill on my behalf and it was my only night kill. so now we have to figure out who killed streak

And I can say you're lying, because I know Streaker most probably killed Mets.
Streaker probably did wanted to kill another target, but he shot Mets because I am the Town Alternator, I switched his target to Mets.
Sorry Mets, my fault, it was based on Wing's readings.

Mitch claimed town, and so far he was honest. Of course it doesn't mean anything, but anyway,

unvote, vote Tim

hmm so if streaker was targeting mets do we know if his target was as a kill or a recruit?? either way both are dead so if streaker was targeting him as a recruit then dose that mean there is no longer a killer running around?

[degaston]

Dakky, I find it very suspicious that you unvote Mitch right after I point out that he needs to claim. Are you protecting him?

Vote Mitch

[TimWoodbury]

i had a shot kill i used it on mets i guess i targets mets and dakky used his change thingy to make streaker hit mets, the protect that im talking of is a 1 shot doc protect thus why i can protect unless i know who im protecting

wait did i misunderstand my role and i am the doc or did i understand it correctly and i am able to protect the doc once after thinking about it after typeing i sound really silly i think i really did misunderstand it

[dakky21]

wait did i misunderstand my role and i am the doc or did i understand it correctly and i am able to protect the doc once after thinking about it after typeing i sound really silly i think i really did misunderstand it

If you did misunderstand your role and didn't asked Strike Wolf about it, then you are ruining the game. I don't think you misunderstood it, therefore because you say it now after I said this is your first game.

Dakky, I find it very suspicious that you unvote Mitch right after I point out that he needs to claim. Are you protecting him?

Vote Mitch

No, I'd like mitch dead as much as you would, but this time Tim seems like a better target, and Mitch claimed town already.
Your vote on the other hand looks suspicious, as if I switch my vote back to Mitch, you will unvote, and accuse me of bangwagoning.

FoS on both of you.

[TimWoodbury]

wait did i misunderstand my role and i am the doc or did i understand it correctly and i am able to protect the doc once after thinking about it after typeing i sound really silly i think i really did misunderstand it

If you did misunderstand your role and didn't asked Strike Wolf about it, then you are ruining the game. I don't think you misunderstood it, therefore because you say it now after I said this is your first game.

Dakky, I find it very suspicious that you unvote Mitch right after I point out that he needs to claim. Are you protecting him?

Vote Mitch

No, I'd like mitch dead as much as you would, but this time Tim seems like a better target, and Mitch claimed town already.
Your vote on the other hand looks suspicious, as if I switch my vote back to Mitch, you will unvote, and accuse me of bangwagoning.

FoS on both of you.

i just mailed him about it after i just realized that may have been wrong about it,

okay so i was correct on what i origonally though regular doc has unlimited protection to give of witch i dont have to give.

im still gonna stay on mitch if others think mitch has more to give then let them ask for more pressure if people think im to go then so be it i think right now it stands at i think 3 for mitch 2 for me

[dakky21]

Tim being Town Doctor seems very naive claim after he claimed he is a protective role and then claiming (lying) about his shot on Mets.
He may be a doctor, but he most probably lied about killing mets. I don't believe he is a doctor as well because of his newbish question.

From my point of view:

degaston & tim are mafia
dazza and hotshot are leaning mafia
endgame is in the middle
epi, aage are leaning town
mitch seems town though he may be mafia as well, he is unreadable

I'm staying on Tim, if he flips mafia then Deg is also, as he is defending/supporting him all the time.

[degaston]

No, I'd like mitch dead as much as you would, but this time Tim seems like a better target, and Mitch claimed town already.
Your vote on the other hand looks suspicious, as if I switch my vote back to Mitch, you will unvote, and accuse me of bangwagoning.

FoS on both of you.

I don't necessarily want Mitch dead, but I think he should full claim. I don't want you to switch your vote to him now because whatever he says, I want to have more discussion.

I don't really think that Tim is a valid target right now. I think he's just making noobie mistakes.

[TimWoodbury]

Tim being Town Doctor seems very naive claim after he claimed he is a protective role and then claiming (lying) about his shot on Mets.
He may be a doctor, but he most probably lied about killing mets. I don't believe he is a doctor as well because of his newbish question.

From my point of view:

degaston & tim are mafia
dazza and hotshot are leaning mafia
endgame is in the middle
epi, aage are leaning town
mitch seems town though he may be mafia as well, he is unreadable

I'm staying on Tim, if he flips mafia then Deg is also, as he is defending/supporting him all the time.

if i was mafia why would i have even claimed to have killed the cop, if i was mafia i would of just let yall go on thinking it was streaker who killed the cop and mafia killed streaker why would i throw myself out in the wide open for scruitney if i was mafia....

[TimWoodbury]

I think he's just making noobie mistakes.

this i will agree with i spose i should of kept my mouth shut about killing the cop hopeing it would have turned out to of been mafia, so mental note for next time if i kill someone and it turns to be a important role let people think it was someone else instead of fessing up to the act... i can see that by fessing up to it brought unwanted attention even though ive been full claiming to be town from the get go. i suspect that since i claimed to have a 1 shot doc protect if i survive tonight mafia will attempt to kill me so if i lsurvive the lynch i will be useing my protect to protect myself from the mafia or shall i let mafia kill me durning the night jsut for spite of dakky to show i was town all along

[degaston]

Fp'd by dakky

Both you (dakky) and aage are on my suspicious list, so the fact that both of you are going after Tim, who I believe is town, only increases my suspicions. I think that if Tim was mafia, then he would have gotten some help on N1 figuring out his role.

[dakky21]

if i was mafia why would i have even claimed to have killed the cop, if i was mafia i would of just let yall go on thinking it was streaker who killed the cop and mafia killed streaker why would i throw myself out in the wide open for scruitney if i was mafia....

based on Streakers post-mortem reaction and the color of his name by Wolf, I came to conclusion that Streaker was mafia.
You on the other hand said you can protect someone, but as well said you used your one shot on Mets. I never heared of a doctor with a kill ability, unless you lied about having one shot or being a doctor.

[dakky21]

[quote="TimWoodbury"............ mafia will attempt to kill me so if i lsurvive the lynch i will be useing my protect to protect myself from the mafia or shall i let mafia kill me durning the night jsut for spite of dakky to show i was town all along[/quote]

If you read your role you'd probably know doctor can't protect himself and now you are EITHER:
1) total newbie who didn't read his role
2) lying scum

[TimWoodbury]

if i was mafia why would i have even claimed to have killed the cop, if i was mafia i would of just let yall go on thinking it was streaker who killed the cop and mafia killed streaker why would i throw myself out in the wide open for scruitney if i was mafia....

based on Streakers post-mortem reaction and the color of his name by Wolf, I came to conclusion that Streaker was mafia.
You on the other hand said you can protect someone, but as well said you used your one shot on Mets. I never heared of a doctor with a kill ability, unless you lied about having one shot or being a doctor.

im just telling yah what i know i had 1 shot kill and 1 shot protect, if streaker was mafia then who killed streaker or did the mafia kill streaker i simply only know what my night actions are i used my 1 shot kill im not gonna argue what my actions are as they are in my mail i just cant show the mail due to rules so spose no way to prove it other then not lynching me and then mafia attempting to kill me in the night

my action dose not say i cant protect myself actually my response from wolf pprotection used once on anyone assumed it included myself, but i guess if i cant use it on myself then mafia will kill me in the night so im dead either way as mafia will wanna get rid of protection

[dakky21]

my action dose not say i cant protect myself actually my response from wolf pprotection used once on anyone assumed it included myself, but i guess if i cant use it on myself then mafia will kill me in the night so im dead either way as mafia will wanna get rid of protection

maybe, but let's say you really have the 1 time protection shot... who would you shoot it at? you don't know. you'd maybe shoot it at a mafia leader.

you're playing this game too newbish, like you never played mafia (and you said you understand how it works), and "try to stay alive" is your motto
Look, I'm starting to believe you, but still something doesn't fit in.

[TimWoodbury]

my action dose not say i cant protect myself actually my response from wolf pprotection used once on anyone assumed it included myself, but i guess if i cant use it on myself then mafia will kill me in the night so im dead either way as mafia will wanna get rid of protection

maybe, but let's say you really have the 1 time protection shot... who would you shoot it at? you don't know. you'd maybe shoot it at a mafia leader.

you're playing this game too newbish, like you never played mafia (and you said you understand how it works), and "try to stay alive" is your motto
Look, I'm starting to believe you, but still something doesn't fit in.

like i said i shot at mets because i was going off wings assumtion and read that mets and hotshot was mafia, i figured if the town can kill even jsut 1 of the mafia night1 we would be great . i played it once in highschool durning a class and was only once and i read the guide here on some of the terms and the political mafia and one of the other mafia games so i kinda get it but of course im a noob, if i was playing like a pro you would be saying i was to pro. the 1 time protection i honestly dont know who i would use it on if i cant use it on myself i origonally reead it as i had 1 chance to protect the doc then realized that was incorrect just a lil it ago when i mentioend i thought i had it wong im not here to convince you im here to convince the rest of the game , if anything like ive been saying the last few posts is all your doing is drawing the mafia attention to me for a easy night kill

[dakky21]

im as well conerned about wings misread of metsfan and i think we should now steer clear of hotshot dont think we want to tempt fate and go down the road again. so the serial killer is gone meaning hopefully no more night kills. so question anyone know what other roles the mafia may have?

......... if anything like ive been saying the last few posts is all your doing is drawing the mafia attention to me for a easy night kill

I thought you said there will be "hopefully no more night kills."
Sorry mate, you got lost in your own words.