Cyborgs Mafia - Endgame - Hail the Shiny Golden Overlord

[TA1LGUNN3R]

His response for me was weak given the time from my post to his. I think I caught him off guard and couldn't think of anything to say.

That doesn't explain your assertion that the "day cop came out and said [Zivel] was not town-aligned." Was that a joke? There's no claimed day cop, and charm hasn't said anything about Zivel.

Therefore, what?

-Tails

[edocsil]

Deadline, no majority results in no lynch.

One of the assembled cyborgs got up to a podium and generally started a circus performance. This left many feeling lost and confused, but surely they thought there was a purpose. What could it be, they had no idea, but there had to be a purpose, for what was a cyborg without a function to fulfill?

One thing they all agreed upon was to think a little longer over the situation and examine the death of General Grievous tomorrow, for little more could be accomplished today.

It is now Night 1. Please submit all night actions within 3 days or sooner.

[edocsil]

There was a whir and a clank in the night followed by an awful grinding sound. It sounded remarkably like a impact driver being used to "fix" someone. Come morning the noise was reported and quickly a body was turned up. 8 (from battlestar galactica) was found dead in her bed. It seems someone took up cyborg dentistry and "slipped" a little. No dental records could be found, but some of the others could recognize the remaining remains.

Jonty ~ 8 ~ Town Lyncher has been killed.

It is now Day 2. ~ 2 weeks till the next deadline.

[jak111]

Alright Charm, what did you find in the night?

[Iron Butterfly]

Vote Nolynch

We already have two claims out. The cop and the role blocker. The last thing we need is another claim. Ending the day with NO information is one thing but we have more then enough to end the day and let the PRs take over.

If we have more than enough information care to give 2 scum 2 town other than the claims? I don't want to hear you in post game if you're town and had all the mafia and didn't say anything cause you died night 1.

If you don't understand the logic of the what I said I certainly will not waste my time explaining it.

[HotShot53]

Jonty ~ 8 ~ Town Lyncher has been killed.

It is now Day 2. ~ 2 weeks till the next deadline.

A town lyncher? Never played with one of them before. So Jonty's win condition was to lynch someone? I would have thought that a 3rd party role instead of town... oh well, guess since he's dead it doesn't matter now, at least it wasn't a power role.

2 week deadline? Compared to the GOT game that seems like forever lol. That should be time enough to build quite a few cases and get a good lynch today.

Alright Charm, what did you find in the night?

Agree, would be good to know who is safe/should be lynched.


So tails, now that it's day 2, are you ready to start contributing?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Jonty ~ 8 ~ Town Lyncher has been killed.

It is now Day 2. ~ 2 weeks till the next deadline.

A town lyncher? Never played with one of them before. So Jonty's win condition was to lynch someone? I would have thought that a 3rd party role instead of town... oh well, guess since he's dead it doesn't matter now, at least it wasn't a power role.

2 week deadline? Compared to the GOT game that seems like forever lol. That should be time enough to build quite a few cases and get a good lynch today.

Alright Charm, what did you find in the night?

Agree, would be good to know who is safe/should be lynched.


So tails, now that it's day 2, are you ready to start contributing?

I'm fairly certain I contributed more than you did yesterday.

It's funny how a simple statement comes to define so deeply what others think. I never didn't wish to participate. In fact, I wouldn't be playing otherwise. I just can't produce something from the nothing that is day one.

But I'll continue my questioning from yesterday:

His response for me was weak given the time from my post to his. I think I caught him off guard and couldn't think of anything to say.

That doesn't explain your assertion that the "day cop came out and said [Zivel] was not town-aligned." Was that a joke? There's no claimed day cop, and charm hasn't said anything about Zivel.

Therefore, what?

VOTE MTAM for either major skimming or sowing confusion.

As a slight off topic flavor discussion, I'm not sure I would call 8 town. Boomer, maybe, but she was different.

-Tails

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Whoops meant Athena.

[Zivel]

Shit, today started a day earlier than I thought. These time zones are messing with me.

Mtam, the end of yesterday was weird, please explain your reasoning behind my vote. You posted a joke, I thought it was to draw me out a little cause I was quiet and then it turned into an actual case against me. Care to expand on your thinking?

[charm]

I investigated Iron Butterfly and all I got back was that he is innocent!

[Nebuchadnezer]

I investigated Iron Butterfly and all I got back was that he is innocent!

Why the hell did you investigate him? Tails or mtam were the obvious choices...

[charm]

I investigated Iron Butterfly and all I got back was that he is innocent!

Why the hell did you investigate him? Tails or mtam were the obvious choices...

A. Because MTAM and TAILS are the obvious ones to pressure!
B. Because no one said anything on who should be investigated, therefore it is my choice!!
C. Because I was on the fence with him!!!
And D. Because I've never been the cop, learning as I go, and I can do whatever I want!

Hope that answered your question Mr. Nebby-Webby!!

VOTE TAILS!!

[jak111]

I investigated Iron Butterfly and all I got back was that he is innocent!

I had the secret worry of spiesr being mafia Roleblocker pretending to be town, but if he were mafia he WOULD of roleblocked you.

In my mind 3 people are clear now. (Should be careful of my wording there, I mean the ones I have a MAJOR town vibe on due to circumstances).

There is the off chance IB is Godfather/lawyered. But that will be dealt with in later days or unless someone has damning evidence to prove otherwise.

The big Mtam incident yesterday has me leaning toward him for information today. So Vote Mtam.

I also have a minor FOS on Neb and PCM because of who died.

[pancakemix]

Charm, if you were on the fence on Tails, that's exactly why you should have investigated him.

I also have a minor FOS on Neb and PCM because of who died.

Care to elaborate?

[Iron Butterfly]

Charm, if you were on the fence on Tails, that's exactly why you should have investigated him.

I also have a minor FOS on Neb and PCM because of who died.

Care to elaborate?

She already explained her reasoning on why she investigated me. You are the only person so far this game to consider the possibility on me being scum. I would think you would be happy. Now unless we have a counter claim Charm is the Town cop. Keeping pressure on her because you disagree with her reasoning deflects from scum hunting.

Some things that concern me.

1) Jak-he is playing so outside his meta with being almost non existent that i am surprised no one has mentioned it.

2) Zivels post on page 8. Perhaps it is a small thing to catch but I would like it explained. Charm is playing her second game so has no established meta per say yet his comment suggests otherwise, as if he is trying to sow seeds of doubt...*grin* posting before thingking. Yeah this is a lot of back and forth going on here. I am inclined to think that charm is playing what she usually does, random ideas that hint at more but don't actually give anything away. But this comes across as scum, a townie would be a little more direct. Someone once said don't lie as town, it never helps. But not telling the full truth is as good as lying.

3)PCM- He has been hammering away nonstop on Charm while acting from time to time like some teacher for asking the right questions. She is new. In my first game I was Cop and was a train wreck with my playing. Now she has cleared someone even he questioned and yet still wants to pressure her because people disagree with her decision.

[Nebuchadnezer]

I investigated Iron Butterfly and all I got back was that he is innocent!

Why the hell did you investigate him? Tails or mtam were the obvious choices...

A. Because MTAM and TAILS are the obvious ones to pressure!
B. Because no one said anything on who should be investigated, therefore it is my choice!!
C. Because I was on the fence with him!!!
And D. Because I've never been the cop, learning as I go, and I can do whatever I want!

Hope that answered your question Mr. Nebby-Webby!!

VOTE TAILS!!

I'm not mad at you, Charm. More mad at myself...but let's move on. I've got to get back into this game.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I investigated Iron Butterfly and all I got back was that he is innocent!

Why the hell did you investigate him? Tails or mtam were the obvious choices...

A. Because MTAM and TAILS are the obvious ones to pressure!
B. Because no one said anything on who should be investigated, therefore it is my choice!!
C. Because I was on the fence with him!!!
And D. Because I've never been the cop, learning as I go, and I can do whatever I want!

Hope that answered your question Mr. Nebby-Webby!!

VOTE TAILS!!

lol.

You had nothing yesterday and now you have double nothing (let me do the math on that...). Or were you hoping that by not investigating me you could continue to perpetuate your infatuation with me?

Are you defending mtam?

-Tails

[pancakemix]

She already explained her reasoning on why she investigated me. You are the only person so far this game to consider the possibility on me being scum. I would think you would be happy. Now unless we have a counter claim Charm is the Town cop. Keeping pressure on her because you disagree with her reasoning deflects from scum hunting.

Some things that concern me.

1) Jak-he is playing so outside his meta with being almost non existent that i am surprised no one has mentioned it.

2) Zivels post on page 8. Perhaps it is a small thing to catch but I would like it explained. Charm is playing her second game so has no established meta per say yet his comment suggests otherwise, as if he is trying to sow seeds of doubt...*grin* posting before thingking. Yeah this is a lot of back and forth going on here. I am inclined to think that charm is playing what she usually does, random ideas that hint at more but don't actually give anything away. But this comes across as scum, a townie would be a little more direct. Someone once said don't lie as town, it never helps. But not telling the full truth is as good as lying.

3)PCM- He has been hammering away nonstop on Charm while acting from time to time like some teacher for asking the right questions. She is new. In my first game I was Cop and was a train wreck with my playing. Now she has cleared someone even he questioned and yet still wants to pressure her because people disagree with her decision.

1. You're town. Hooray.
2. Rereading, it could just as easily be interpreted (and probably more accurately) that she was on the fence about you. So maybe I wasn't the only one.
3. Who said that was pressure? Maybe it was just the way I would have reasoned things. To add to that, would you rather I be straight-up ruthless? Because I can be straight up ruthless. If I have a bit of advice for a new player, I'm going to put it out there.

Anyway, Vote Virus per yesterday. I'd like to hear some thoughts from you.

[Iron Butterfly]

Yes lets argue semantics and go nowhere shall we.

Horay I am Town. You agree because I was cleared. Charm is the Cop. She is her own person and she has never played Cop before. Lets leave it at that and move on.

[mtamburini]

Vote Nolynch

We already have two claims out. The cop and the role blocker. The last thing we need is another claim. Ending the day with NO information is one thing but we have more then enough to end the day and let the PRs take over.

If we have more than enough information care to give 2 scum 2 town other than the claims? I don't want to hear you in post game if you're town and had all the mafia and didn't say anything cause you died night 1.

If you don't understand the logic of the what I said I certainly will not waste my time explaining it.

Thanks for all your help and allowing me to get a read off you by completely ignoring my question.

I think lynches should be between jak and tails.

Jak brings up what I was thinking about possible godfather/lawyer but I think iron mafia team does not choose to lawyer iron as there were other people who were acting scummy that could've been checked.

I'm on my phone so hard to use quotes but I read that I think it was neb who asked charm why she checked iron when me or tails should've been checked. This reads lots of red flags for me as it sounded like neb and his mafia team either lawyer red tails if he's scum or framed me or him as town to gain a ml and possibly get the cop lynched the next day as well.

If I had a gun last night I would've shot the shit out of jak I didn't like his day 1. Having a good start this day except for the vote on me which is goddam awful as I am town.

To explain tails thing on me it was a reaction test. I knew he was in the thread an if he was reading it all he would know there was not check on him. It took him too long to respond IMO probably cause he was looking for what I had said to be true or not and didn't know how to respond right away so had to think of something to say.

I'd still want to lynch zivel the mostest there's a possibility me and tails r both town and were mafias wet dream if we continue to fight so I'll leave him be for now maybe. We'll see how I feel in the next 2 weeks.

[virus90]

damnit the internet ate my post.
anyway ill try to reconstruct it:

Shit, today started a day earlier than I thought. These time zones are messing with me.

is it fair to assume you forgot your nightaction? mean what is the problem with it starting ?

Also i am curious who spiesr chose to block. So spiesr if you can enswer that

anyway, my little list of my attitude towards people:

Town:
IB
Spiesr
charm

Protown:
Zivel
Tails
PCM

neutral/ anti town / dont know
Mtamburini
Jak111
Nebud
Hotshot

So i was wondering what mtam has to say to the aquisations made / strange posts yesterday

On the pro town side i feel like i do not agree to the discussion about zivel and tails, they both feel protown to me
PCM well hard to keep track on but got a pro-town feeling about him.

fped by mtam

[mtamburini]

damnit the internet ate my post.
anyway ill try to reconstruct it:

Shit, today started a day earlier than I thought. These time zones are messing with me.

is it fair to assume you forgot your nightaction? mean what is the problem with it starting ?

Also i am curious who spiesr chose to block. So spiesr if you can enswer that

anyway, my little list of my attitude towards people:

Town:
IB
Spiesr
charm

Protown:
Zivel
Tails
PCM

neutral/ anti town / dont know
Mtamburini
Jak111
Nebud
Hotshot

So i was wondering what mtam has to say to the aquisations made / strange posts yesterday

On the pro town side i feel like i do not agree to the discussion about zivel and tails, they both feel protown to me
PCM well hard to keep track on but got a pro-town feeling about him.

fped by mtam

I strongly disagree that he should come out with who he blocked. It allows mafia to come out and say they r a pr and got roleblocked. A better question is to ask anyone get roleblocked last night?

[mtamburini]

damnit the internet ate my post.
anyway ill try to reconstruct it:

Shit, today started a day earlier than I thought. These time zones are messing with me.

is it fair to assume you forgot your nightaction? mean what is the problem with it starting ?

Also i am curious who spiesr chose to block. So spiesr if you can enswer that

anyway, my little list of my attitude towards people:

Town:
IB
Spiesr
charm

Protown:
Zivel
Tails
PCM

neutral/ anti town / dont know
Mtamburini
Jak111
Nebud
Hotshot

So i was wondering what mtam has to say to the aquisations made / strange posts yesterday

On the pro town side i feel like i do not agree to the discussion about zivel and tails, they both feel protown to me
PCM well hard to keep track on but got a pro-town feeling about him.

fped by mtam

I disagree strongly with him comin out with who he blocked. Instead I want to know if anyone got blocked. That would be more beneficial to town rather than your statement.

Not sure if mod tells the person if they got roleblocked if they r not a role so mr mod could you clarify that? If no one claims to be blocked spiesr knows they r non pr and are vanilla town or vanilla mafia.

Does anyone want to claim they vigi shot jonty in the night? Otherwise mafia made that kill and my assumptions about spiesr of he's town would be correct about his roleblock.

[spiesr]

Vote Nolynch

We already have two claims out. The cop and the role blocker. The last thing we need is another claim. Ending the day with NO information is one thing but we have more then enough to end the day and let the PRs take over.

If we have more than enough information care to give 2 scum 2 town other than the claims? I don't want to hear you in post game if you're town and had all the mafia and didn't say anything cause you died night 1.

If you don't understand the logic of the what I said I certainly will not waste my time explaining it.

Thanks for all your help and allowing me to get a read off you by completely ignoring my question.

So, how does this read gel with Charm's claimed investigation? Is it strong enough that you seriously suspect Godfather/shenanigans with the result, or did you get a town read out of that?

Also i am curious who spiesr chose to block. So spiesr if you can enswer that

I would prefer to hold onto that info for a bit, hoping to torpedo a fake-claim in the event that I hit a scum who isn't aware of it, or the inverse. I will reveal if more people want me to though.

Why the hell did you investigate him? Tails or mtam were the obvious choices...

A. Because MTAM and TAILS are the obvious ones to pressure!
B. Because no one said anything on who should be investigated, therefore it is my choice!!
C. Because I was on the fence with him!!!
And D. Because I've never been the cop, learning as I go, and I can do whatever I want!

Hope that answered your question Mr. Nebby-Webby!!

VOTE TAILS!!

While investigating players that are out of the focus (since they won't be lynched unless something changes) is a strategy that I approve of and use myself on a regular basis, the last line of your post demonstrates why this is a somewhat frustrating outcome. You think Tails is scum, but the case against him is rather weak so a lynch on him is far from a sure thing today. Since it appears your plan for today was to just dive back into the vote on Tails (if you didn't find a scum of course) it would have been nice if we could have had some new evidence on that front so that we don't just all end up resuming the positions we were in yesterday.

Shit, today started a day earlier than I thought. These time zones are messing with me.

Nights often end earlier than the deadline if everyone has their actions in. Just like how days end earlier if the lynch is reached.

I'm on my phone so hard to use quotes but I read that I think it was neb who asked charm why she checked iron when me or tails should've been checked. This reads lots of red flags for me as it sounded like neb and his mafia team either lawyer red tails if he's scum or framed me or him as town to gain a ml and possibly get the cop lynched the next day as well.

Not a bad idea, I throw out a Vote Neb too see what he has to say about it.

[mtamburini]

Vote Nolynch

We already have two claims out. The cop and the role blocker. The last thing we need is another claim. Ending the day with NO information is one thing but we have more then enough to end the day and let the PRs take over.

If we have more than enough information care to give 2 scum 2 town other than the claims? I don't want to hear you in post game if you're town and had all the mafia and didn't say anything cause you died night 1.

If you don't understand the logic of the what I said I certainly will not waste my time explaining it.

Thanks for all your help and allowing me to get a read off you by completely ignoring my question.

So, how does this read gel with Charm's claimed investigation? Is it strong enough that you seriously suspect Godfather/shenanigans with the result, or did you get a town read out of that?

Also i am curious who spiesr chose to block. So spiesr if you can enswer that

I would prefer to hold onto that info for a bit, hoping to torpedo a fake-claim in the event that I hit a scum who isn't aware of it, or the inverse. I will reveal if more people want me to though.

Why the hell did you investigate him? Tails or mtam were the obvious choices...

A. Because MTAM and TAILS are the obvious ones to pressure!
B. Because no one said anything on who should be investigated, therefore it is my choice!!
C. Because I was on the fence with him!!!
And D. Because I've never been the cop, learning as I go, and I can do whatever I want!

Hope that answered your question Mr. Nebby-Webby!!

VOTE TAILS!!

While investigating players that are out of the focus (since they won't be lynched unless something changes) is a strategy that I approve of and use myself on a regular basis, the last line of your post demonstrates why this is a somewhat frustrating outcome. You think Tails is scum, but the case against him is rather weak so a lynch on him is far from a sure thing today. Since it appears your plan for today was to just dive back into the vote on Tails (if you didn't find a scum of course) it would have been nice if we could have had some new evidence on that front so that we don't just all end up resuming the positions we were in yesterday.

Shit, today started a day earlier than I thought. These time zones are messing with me.

Nights often end earlier than the deadline if everyone has their actions in. Just like how days end earlier if the lynch is reached.

I'm on my phone so hard to use quotes but I read that I think it was neb who asked charm why she checked iron when me or tails should've been checked. This reads lots of red flags for me as it sounded like neb and his mafia team either lawyer red tails if he's scum or framed me or him as town to gain a ml and possibly get the cop lynched the next day as well.

Not a bad idea, I throw out a Vote Neb too see what he has to say about it.

Nobody is generally solid clear in my books til they die. My question was in know way out of line asking if he ha 2 scum reads and town reads outside claims. Didn't get enough information out of him day 1 for me to get a read so his piss poor attitude towards me only makes me angry like his shit don't stink and thinks he's some sort of god that doesn't have to explain shit.