Dexter mafia Game Over: Tailgunn3r wins.

[aage]

Ima claim. I'm a town busdriver and drove Safari with Ga7 (which seems like an obvious choice to me). I think Saf hid behind Frenchie and Frenchie killed himself. This really does make me laugh, sorry about that :p

Safari hiding behind ga7 wouldn't have resulted in safari's death as his action would have been redirected to himself i.e. negated. It's also apparant from the flavour that there were three different killers.

I'm baffled that you would choose to busdrive a proven town power role who in all likelyhood would have a doctor protecting him. Since you've half-claimed can you tell us your character name?

edocsi/dexter watchers- can you tell us the real character names of the three who died?

You mean, with the likelyhood of scum targeting him?

A hider hides behind another character. Actions against the hider are negated since he is hiding, but if the person behind which the hider is hiding gets targeted for a kill, the hider dies too.
At least, that's what I gathered from mafia wiki and all those sites.

Also, my character name is probably altered so it won't do any good. I know who I'm supposed to be in the series though, and I'm a good guy. As in, police officer.

[Iliad]

Has anyone been reading here at all? Remember when SW said that there's going to be SK mafia only? You know.... this is it... There's no mafia - only separate SK's and town. Most likely no one who anyone else is, but there might be a couple of exceptions.

As for what it's about the definite theme is unrevealed until the end but...I herd u liek sks.

yup.

Anarkist weren't you gonna post some case against Illy and/or Drabod? I'm awaiting.

Actually in retrospect Iliad has been submarining big time. He only has 4 posts. And all he did was jump on the easy nag BW.

vote Iliad

-Tails

On day 1 I usually do not post that much anyway, since there is little to discuss usually and I'm feeling out the feel of the game and dynamics of the players. Also often themed games have a flavour barrier that needs to be overcome to properly understand the game.
Day 2 there was a rather simple cop find of a serial killer and people had worked out nag's flavour very quickly.
And now on day 3 I'd say I have been fairly active.

[icedagger]

Safari hiding behind ga7 wouldn't have resulted in safari's death as his action would have been redirected to himself i.e. negated. It's also apparant from the flavour that there were three different killers.

I'm baffled that you would choose to busdrive a proven town power role who in all likelyhood would have a doctor protecting him. Since you've half-claimed can you tell us your character name?

edocsi/dexter watchers- can you tell us the real character names of the three who died?

You mean, with the likelyhood of scum targeting him?

A hider hides behind another character. Actions against the hider are negated since he is hiding, but if the person behind which the hider is hiding gets targeted for a kill, the hider dies too.
At least, that's what I gathered from mafia wiki and all those sites.

Scum would likely have targeted him but you'd also expect a doctor to, so imo busdriving him only put him in more danger. You're right about what a hider does, but you're not taking the implications of you driving safari with ga7 into account. If safari had tried to hide behind ga7 his action would have been redirected onto himself, i.e. he wouldn't be hiding behind anyone.

my character name is probably altered so it won't do any good. I know who I'm supposed to be in the series though, and I'm a good guy. As in, police officer.

Yeah I meant you should claim the Dexter name

[strike wolf]

Sorry a bit of delay, I'll reveal the real character names.

Ga7 was James Doakes
drabod was Camilla Figgs
Safariguy5 was Neil Perry

I'll include all the real names on the first post as well.

[Anarkistsdream]

So far Drabod has contributed only minimally. He has not made an assumption or posted anything of value. He jumped on a few bandwagons and had the audacity to use the words ‘Still not what we are asking for though’ when talking to Target, though he had in no way contributed before. He is doing a good job of sliding along without actually being any benefit to the town at all.

Iliad, on the other hand, has posted twice since page 9… One saying

Could you please give this info when you claim:
Name of person and role
a little bit of flavour
what your role is and what you can do

And once to vote nag without offering any other evidence…

Before that, he posted on Page 4 voting for Target, who already had a bandwagon against him.

Really, he has done a great job submarining, jumping up to vote against a bandwagon, and then disappear again…

This was my argument against the two...

Vote: Iliad

[targetman377]

So far Drabod has contributed only minimally. He has not made an assumption or posted anything of value. He jumped on a few bandwagons and had the audacity to use the words ‘Still not what we are asking for though’ when talking to Target, though he had in no way contributed before. He is doing a good job of sliding along without actually being any benefit to the town at all.

Iliad, on the other hand, has posted twice since page 9… One saying

Could you please give this info when you claim:
Name of person and role
a little bit of flavour
what your role is and what you can do

And once to vote nag without offering any other evidence…

Before that, he posted on Page 4 voting for Target, who already had a bandwagon against him.

Really, he has done a great job submarining, jumping up to vote against a bandwagon, and then disappear again…

This was my argument against the two...

Vote: Iliad

I agree with this argument i did feel that illiad was just trying to get by. not really trying to stay ahead of things. i would suspect he is one of the killers. but this is just a gut feeling i have

VOTE: IIAD

[Commander9]

Well, since the game is not moving, there's a weak half semi-solid ( ) case around and the person questioned, Illy, has still yet to answer, even though he posted elsewhere lead me to applying more pressure.

Vote Iliad.

[edocsil]

That is 4 votes For Illiad 10 alive so 6 to lynch I will vote Illiad for L-1

[strike wolf]

Vote count

Aage
anarkist
Edoc
Iliad (5)-tails, nark, target, commander, edoc
Streaker
Icedagger
Ta1lgunn3r
commander
Target
/

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

[Iliad]

So far Drabod has contributed only minimally. He has not made an assumption or posted anything of value. He jumped on a few bandwagons and had the audacity to use the words ‘Still not what we are asking for though’ when talking to Target, though he had in no way contributed before. He is doing a good job of sliding along without actually being any benefit to the town at all.

Iliad, on the other hand, has posted twice since page 9… One saying

Could you please give this info when you claim:
Name of person and role
a little bit of flavour
what your role is and what you can do

And once to vote nag without offering any other evidence…

Before that, he posted on Page 4 voting for Target, who already had a bandwagon against him.

Really, he has done a great job submarining, jumping up to vote against a bandwagon, and then disappear again…

This was my argument against the two...

Vote: Iliad

Firstly, I've already defended myself, before this turned into a bandwagon, but everyone seemed to skim it, even going as far as saying I haven't defended myself at all.

I'll repeat it again for the skimmers: Day 1 I wasn't that familiar with the theme and I'm not that active day 1 anyway since cases then are usually pretty weak. In retrospect day 1 can offer plenty of information however. Also the target vote was a clear joke vote, and also way before any semblance of a serious wagon. It can be hardly be called wagoning, if the wagon then developed after me.

Day 2 was a really straightforward day. Everyone followed the cop, as it's a reasonable thing to do, and the people who were familiar with the theme worked out that nag was lying and was a serial killer. Not a great deal I could've said, or that anybody else did. Not sure why I'm being targeted out, out of everyone.
Also the target vote was a clear joke vote, and also way before any semblance of a serious wagon. It can be hardly be called wagoning, if the wagon then developed after me.
Speaking of wagons, the mindless way in which this wagon has developed is very interesting. People are accusing me, or technically agreeing with people who are accusing me, of just getting by, while they themsleves aren't offering anything and simply wagoning.

Tails and anark did actually post somewhat of an attack, everyone else acted scummier than what the attack on me, made me out to be.

[edocsil]

So far Drabod has contributed only minimally. He has not made an assumption or posted anything of value. He jumped on a few bandwagons and had the audacity to use the words ‘Still not what we are asking for though’ when talking to Target, though he had in no way contributed before. He is doing a good job of sliding along without actually being any benefit to the town at all.

Iliad, on the other hand, has posted twice since page 9… One saying

Could you please give this info when you claim:
Name of person and role
a little bit of flavour
what your role is and what you can do

And once to vote nag without offering any other evidence…

Before that, he posted on Page 4 voting for Target, who already had a bandwagon against him.

Really, he has done a great job submarining, jumping up to vote against a bandwagon, and then disappear again…

This was my argument against the two...

Vote: Iliad

Firstly, I've already defended myself, before this turned into a bandwagon, but everyone seemed to skim it, even going as far as saying I haven't defended myself at all.

I'll repeat it again for the skimmers: Day 1 I wasn't that familiar with the theme and I'm not that active day 1 anyway since cases then are usually pretty weak. In retrospect day 1 can offer plenty of information however. Also the target vote was a clear joke vote, and also way before any semblance of a serious wagon. It can be hardly be called wagoning, if the wagon then developed after me.

Day 2 was a really straightforward day. Everyone followed the cop, as it's a reasonable thing to do, and the people who were familiar with the theme worked out that nag was lying and was a serial killer. Not a great deal I could've said, or that anybody else did. Not sure why I'm being targeted out, out of everyone.
Also the target vote was a clear joke vote, and also way before any semblance of a serious wagon. It can be hardly be called wagoning, if the wagon then developed after me.
Speaking of wagons, the mindless way in which this wagon has developed is very interesting. People are accusing me, or technically agreeing with people who are accusing me, of just getting by, while they themsleves aren't offering anything and simply wagoning.

Tails and anark did actually post somewhat of an attack, everyone else acted scummier than what the attack on me, made me out to be.

So I take it this is largely a middle finger extended to those who have voted for you. I can't say I blame you as the case on you is rather fragile. Unfortunately this will not end with everyone just backing down. If you are town just claim so we can pick apart the wagon and move on.

[Anarkistsdream]

Even if it is a Bandwagon, I believe it started in the right place, and no, I have seen you approach other games considerably differently, so I don't agree this is your modus operandi.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

unvote

His defense has rebutted all of my points. Really I was just voting for the submarining, maybe now he'll be more active.

Safari was likely killed by Ga7. Ga7 was ex military, a flashbang is his style.

Haha. Then he killed himself.


Ima claim. I'm a town busdriver and drove Safari with Ga7 (which seems like an obvious choice to me). I think Saf hid behind Frenchie and Frenchie killed himself. This really does make me laugh, sorry about that :p

It is a bloody night but technically there were only 2 kills. One was by a vig, in that case another was by an SK or a mafia.


I unfortunately have no clue who is which at this point..

I have suspicions about you're claim. Who did you switch N1? Why would ga7 try to kill Safari, who at that point hadn't been scummy? It seems like ga7 wouldn't waste a vig kill (he only had one) just to randomly attack. I personally think ga7 would've saved it till the end, when he had some good reads.

Vote Nag
I got him as scum and reading up on the characters I think I'm in good position to be sane. It was a one-shot investigation. Real character Doakes for the ones in the know. If it works out please protect me, got more cats in mah bag

Ga7 switched his one-shot investigation ability with his vig ability in his claim, maybe in hopes that he wouldn't get targeted. However, I think that aage realized that a doc might not protect him after that though, since a one-shot cop isn't beneficial after the first investigation, and decided to kill him.

He then claimed busdriver, conveniently bussing two characters who are dead (which means if there was any sort of watcher or tracker role, they could back him up by saying he did indeed target at least one of those characters).

A hider hides behind another character. Actions against the hider are negated since he is hiding, but if the person behind which the hider is hiding gets targeted for a kill, the hider dies too.
At least, that's what I gathered from mafia wiki and all those sites.

He then tries to justify the death that the hider experienced through the role. IF he had switched Saf and ga7 like he said, and ga7 didn't use his vig kill on Saf like I suspect, then the doc presumably would've protected Saf, and anyone who tried to kill Saf would've killed ga7. However, his claim hinges on the fact that ga7 targeted Saf for some reason.

My theory is that maybe Saf did hide behind ga7, but a non-protected ga7 got killed, so both died.

vote aage

-Tails

[aage]

Tails, if I were scum, why the hell would I claim a busdriver on two dead people?

[edocsil]

Tails, if I were scum, why the hell would I claim a busdriver on two dead people?

I don't know but the whole thing stinks.

[targetman377]

i am keeping my vote on him just cause i really just do not believe him at this point.

[aage]

i am keeping my vote on him just cause i really just do not believe him at this point.

I really find it strange that of all the people you decide to vote for the only claimed role, but I guess that's just me.

[Anarkistsdream]

i am keeping my vote on him just cause i really just do not believe him at this point.

I really find it strange that of all the people you decide to vote for the only claimed role, but I guess that's just me.

Targetman is voting you? You are the only claimed role...

[targetman377]

no i am still on nag i do not understand what aage is saying?

[Anarkistsdream]

no i am still on nag i do not understand what aage is saying?

OK... I don't know what he's talking about either...

[targetman377]

i was the only one who claimed no one else has! after a group of u bullied me to do so. i should say there are still hard feelings that i have from that seeing as how no one claims very often and since that it just makes it feel like a group of people where trying to take advantage of me which i think is a scummy thing

[strike wolf]

Vote count

Aage (1)-tails
anarkist
Edoc
Iliad (4)-nark, target, commander, edoc
Streaker
Icedagger
Ta1lgunn3r
commander
Target
/

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Hmm I thought someone else had voted somewhere but didn't see it looking back...

[edocsil]

i was the only one who claimed no one else has! after a group of u bullied me to do so. i should say there are still hard feelings that i have from that seeing as how no one claims very often and since that it just makes it feel like a group of people where trying to take advantage of me which i think is a scummy thing

happens every day, grow a pair.

[aage]

Sorry Target, I was under the impression that that post was one of Tails'
Stupid mistake tho, since Tails always sigs his posts manually.

[strike wolf]

Haven't forgotten this thread just haven't been able to focus enough to go back and reread to see who I need to prod and whatever else needs to be done...should get back on track later today.