Classic mafia Game thread [day 1] no deaths!

[edocsil]

Oh and UNVOTE NAXUS (I can do that right?) I begin to think that my justification for my vote was a bit shaky.

[safariguy5]

Well, the doctor would stay hidden of course.

The cop is a powerful role, but it becomes much more powerful when a Sane Cop is paired with a Pro-Town Doctor. When both these roles are know to be present, the cop can safely claim and reveal his investigations. This is commonly known as the Follow the Cop problem.

Follow the Cop


A strategy/habit of over-reliance on Cop results in finding Scum, rather than analyzing/playing the Day Game. Usually indicates either lazy players or a weak setup; methods to avoid it include Millers, Godfathers, Mafia Roleblockers, non-sane Cops, uncertain presence of Investigative Roles in the game setup, or removing Protective Roles that can defend an 'outed' Cop.

[edocsil]

Any chance the cop or the inspector are insane or the doc is on the other side?

[wercool]

i dont think so, seems pretty safe to me.

[UTAlan]

Unless there is more to the setup than was stated, I'd say we're safe Following the Cop.

[Metsfanmax]

The problem is that in such a small game, it wouldn't be hard to figure out who the doctor is.

[vodean]

you do that, i mod-kill the cop. my bad. sorry

[UTAlan]

So the cop isn't allowed to claim?

[vodean]

So the cop isn't allowed to claim?

not unless he is pressured into it. you cant play "follow the cop"

[safariguy5]

So the cop isn't allowed to claim?

not unless he is pressured into it. you cant play "follow the cop"

Why isn't he allowed to? I don't want to argue with the mod, but you did post the setup of the roles in the signup thread. I mean, with all due respect vodean, you aren't a bad mod, but why would you tell everyone exactly how many of each roles there are? This is exactly the problem that will occur if everyone knows the setup. I mean, in the other large mafia games you've played, how many mods give out the setup right away? Just a friendly suggestion to hide the setup from us and make us try to figure out how many mafia, town power roles, manipulative roles, cult, third-party there are.

Back to the game, if the cop is modkilled, the town is probably going to lose unless they get very very lucky with the lynches. Besides, you're basically saying that the mass roleclaim tactic is also invalid. Really, in any mafia game, anyone should be able to claim whatever they want to whenever. But to keep this post on topic, does anyone have any leads? Or are we just going to play random voting until we force a lynch?

[naxus]

most likley random lynching which sucks

[edocsil]

So do we just vote no lynch? And wait for the cop/inspector to find out something?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Vodean if you want to play the game for us please just kill us off. It is up to us to come up with tactics and while you may not want mass claims done, it should be done either in the rules or via pm's with the roles in which consequences can and will occur if such things happen. For example if you are a cop and they claim for no apparent reason they might change their sanity or something which would suck for town. Reality though scum would just focus on finding the doc and killing him and then the very next night the cop would be killed so it would be a race for the cop to find all said members of the scum group and keep in mind that some scum members might also claim to be the cop or the doc etc... so no one would ever really be sure who was who other than scum.

[UTAlan]

I say we mass claim. What's vodean gonna do, mod-kill us all?

[edocsil]

he took the time to make this, the least we can do is play by his rules

[Metsfanmax]

There were no rules. There wasn't even the standard rule saying he was the final arbiter on the rules. I vote we mutiny and elect a new mod

[edocsil]

In this thread, the CC Mafia community helps you, a learner of the game, identify frequent terms and rules throughout the game. With the rules, they can be changed by the mod of their game if they wish, however these are the general rules followed by each mod.

Click on the 'spoiler' to see a few of the terms used on CC Mafia:

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Below is a list of the rules used through the different games on this forum. Mods can change these the way they wish their game to be played. Thank you Iliad for these.

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Next is a list of basic rules which new moderators should add into their game, so their players know what is unique with that game (e.g., how long day and night lasts.)

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Soon to be added: A FAQ section which will help newbs of the game learn more about the game.

Thank you for This random site, otherwise known as Spogg, which I stumbled upon. Thanks also to whoever has helped as well to add to the list.

[edocsil]

Its not even an unwritten rule. Nor does it say that it MUST be posted for the rules to be in effect.

[vodean]

So the cop isn't allowed to claim?

not unless he is pressured into it. you cant play "follow the cop"

Why isn't he allowed to? I don't want to argue with the mod, but you did post the setup of the roles in the signup thread. I mean, with all due respect vodean, you aren't a bad mod, but why would you tell everyone exactly how many of each roles there are? This is exactly the problem that will occur if everyone knows the setup. I mean, in the other large mafia games you've played, how many mods give out the setup right away? Just a friendly suggestion to hide the setup from us and make us try to figure out how many mafia, town power roles, manipulative roles, cult, third-party there are.

Back to the game, if the cop is modkilled, the town is probably going to lose unless they get very very lucky with the lynches. Besides, you're basically saying that the mass roleclaim tactic is also invalid. Really, in any mafia game, anyone should be able to claim whatever they want to whenever. But to keep this post on topic, does anyone have any leads? Or are we just going to play random voting until we force a lynch?

yeah, that was kinda my bad, but in all rl games, we decide on the set-up, then choose a mod.

[vodean]

I say we mass claim. What's vodean gonna do, mod-kill us all?

nope
i dont do kill untill the end of the day, at which point i will kill someone

[UTAlan]

Alright, alright, enough giving vodean a hard time. He's doing his best to make this game enjoyable for everyone; let's try to help him do so.

yeah but unless the doctors bulletproof then he'll be lynched right away

Vote naxus. He just seemed the most hesitant to play Follow the Cop, even before the mod forbade it.

[wercool]

im realy not sure what to do here.

[vodean]

im gone till tuesday. deadline is tuesday

[edocsil]

Vote UTAlan He is bugging me and seems to be in a hurry to lynch.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Unvote Vote UTAlan he does seem a bit lynch happy especially with the mod gone for a week.