Too many Items Mafia (4/14) Endgame: I Confess

[crazymilkshake5]

Unvote: Vodean
Vote: Iron Butterfly

Do I have to put it in color? I'm on my 3DS, and it was hard enough bolding it.

And that's a pretty weak excuse you've conveniently provided there, Epi.

It would be nice, but I'll take bolded.

VC upcoming.

[Iron Butterfly]

Something that stood out to me trying to read all that-Iron talks about people trying to reason with me and failing. Maybe it's just me, but that never happened, did it? I haven't actually made any real case against anyone.

huh, yeah, that is odd, and reading back to page 10, it seems almost as though iron was trying to push you to futher your vote into a full on case against vodean..

I find that suspicious, especially considering he wasn't voting vodean himself, vote IB

Actually my actions are far less sinister. Anyone who has played with Yumiul up to this point has realized that trying to talk or reason with them about Mafia strategy is a lesson in futility. I was simply tryiing to make the point that you cant just say somthing because you beleive it. One needs to argue their points in a reasonable and concise manor, somthing Yumial obviously lacks.

[crazymilkshake5]

Vote count!

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is July 1st.

1.pershy-neb
2.Shieldgenerator7
3.jonty125
4.vodean-spiesr, SG7
5.thehippo8
6.zimmah-
7.dazza2008-
8.Iron Butterfly-/, zim, yomiel
9./
10.happyfeet-epit1
11.Yomiel-vodean
12.Epitaph1-dazza, Jonty
13.spiesr-happy, hippo
14.Nebuchadnezer-pershy

[Iron Butterfly]

unvote pershy

sounds like a flavor cop.

[vodean]

hmm... pershy, zimmah, and neb all seem a little off to me... but not that scummy as of yet. IB, on the other hand seems to have been trying to push for a case against me, without being a part of the case. it would seem that you are some sort of scum trying to pull strings. so unvote vote IB

[zimmah]

hmm... pershy, zimmah, and neb all seem a little off to me... but not that scummy as of yet. IB, on the other hand seems to have been trying to push for a case against me, without being a part of the case. it would seem that you are some sort of scum trying to pull strings. so unvote vote IB

i'll give you a FOS for this.not because of the vote, but of your reasoning.

[Iron Butterfly]

hmm... pershy, zimmah, and neb all seem a little off to me... but not that scummy as of yet. IB, on the other hand seems to have been trying to push for a case against me, without being a part of the case. it would seem that you are some sort of scum trying to pull strings. so unvote vote IB

If you are saying I am pulling strings please explain how. If you are refering to my interactions with yomial from page 10 you will see that Spiesr was engaged as well.

Please show me an example of where I am pulling strings.

[vodean]

hmm... pershy, zimmah, and neb all seem a little off to me... but not that scummy as of yet. IB, on the other hand seems to have been trying to push for a case against me, without being a part of the case. it would seem that you are some sort of scum trying to pull strings. so unvote vote IB

If you are saying I am pulling strings please explain how. If you are refering to my interactions with yomial from page 10 you will see that Spiesr was engaged as well.

Please show me an example of where I am pulling strings.

that is what i am referring to. i am watching spiesr. I have an FOS on him. but you seemed the more active in terms of pushing for yomiel to build a case against me without joining voting me. if you'll notice, spiesr also still has his vote on me. so perhaps he was pressuring me, but he did vote me to actually pressure me, rather than simply inciting others to do his dirty work.
zimmah, does that clear things up?

[Yomiel]

And Iron suddenly grabs onto Epi's excuse...

[jonty125]

I think the pershy case was much stronger than the IB, but he's claimed flavour cop, so I'm not voting him. Not voting IB because the case is weak (I know it's D1)

unvote I don't think my vote is a serious one.

[Iron Butterfly]

Something that stood out to me trying to read all that-Iron talks about people trying to reason with me and failing. Maybe it's just me, but that never happened, did it? I haven't actually made any real case against anyone.

This is the post that started the votes on me. I find a certian irony in the fact that I am being accused of manipulating people while Yomiel stands on the sidelines letting others build a case.

Seeing how yumiel has started the ball rolling why not let them set the tone of the case.

It seems the main argument from him is that because he has not brought a case against anyone I have no right to bring up the the point that he can be unreasonable in his logic.

1) Yomiel are you saying that one can only be considered reasonable or unreasonable ONLY if they state a case on someone?

second you suggest that I latched on to Epi. Please explain the logic and reasoning in that.

So if you wish to start a case or bring somthing to the attention of others why dont you speak for yourself?

Present your case.

[zimmah]

i'm very aware the case on you is not strong, but it's day one.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Okay, that was some large discussion.

I'm not sure where Pershy's case on me came from. He quotes Zimmah and rebuts every point of his, and then completely switches directions to FOS me. That was way off in my mind. However, it seems that I have missed the heat of this discussion and everyone has now moved on to Iron.

While I appreciate Iron stating that I'm not playing outside of my meta (I wasn't aware I had any meta), I also am aware that he's buddied up to me in other games...gaining my confidence, while being 3rd party. So, I pay that comment no mind.

I'd be more inclined at this point to vote for Happy Feet, as he is inactive...however, we don't seem to have any momentum that way. And if I did vote him, then I'd be accused of splitting the vote. Ah, screw it, I'm okay with that judgement.

UNVOTE

VOTE Happy feet

I think anyone who has been accused so far has been posting quite a bit. Which will give us plenty of information to trap that person later on. However, Happy Feet hasn't posted anything, so we have no info to go on later in the game.

Neb

[Yomiel]

Iron is doing it again. The Epi thing is already completely clear. And I only stated something I found odd, yet Iron again acts like I'm leading a mob.

[zimmah]

Okay, that was some large discussion.

I'm not sure where Pershy's case on me came from. He quotes Zimmah and rebuts every point of his, and then completely switches directions to FOS me. That was way off in my mind. However, it seems that I have missed the heat of this discussion and everyone has now moved on to Iron.

ye that was off to me as well, that's why i was confused when he accused me of defending you, i never really thought he was building a case on you by quoting my posts.

[Iron Butterfly]

Iron is doing it again. The Epi thing is already completely clear. And I only stated something I found odd, yet Iron again acts like I'm leading a mob.

1) What am I "doing again"?

2) You stated somthing you found odd, which has led to others using it as an excuse to bandwagon, while at the same time you stand on the sidelines egging it on.

3) I am not suggesting you are leading a mob so much as I am suggesting your comment was the spring board fopr people to launch their attacks. You certianly have not disuaded it and by your continual comment about epi have certianly encouraged it.

If the "Epi Thing" is already completely clear to you please explain it to those who do not understand your statement.

[spiesr]

BTW [b][color=#FF0000]VOTE PERSHY------- actually, not voting until I'm sure I'm not hamering him. VC please

Any reason that you wanted to save you vote for the hammer?

[zimmah]

BTW VOTE PERSHY------- actually, not voting until I'm sure I'm not hamering him. VC please

Any reason that you wanted to save you vote for the hammer?

why part of the word [b][color=#FF0000]NOT do you not understand?

[vodean]

BTW VOTE PERSHY------- actually, not voting until I'm sure I'm not hamering him. VC please

Any reason that you wanted to save you vote for the hammer?

why part of the word [b][color=#FF0000]NOT do you not understand?

when asking a man if he understands the word not, try to avoid the word not.

[zimmah]

BTW VOTE PERSHY------- actually, not voting until I'm sure I'm not hamering him. VC please

Any reason that you wanted to save you vote for the hammer?

why part of the word [b][color=#FF0000]NOT do you not understand?

when asking a man if he understands the word not, try to avoid the word not.

why not?

[Yomiel]

Iron really seems to be quite desperate to get people voting for me.

[Iron Butterfly]

Iron really seems to be quite desperate to get people voting for me.

Just pointing out to folks the nature of how you play. You still havnt answered any thing asked of you.

[vodean]

BTW VOTE PERSHY------- actually, not voting until I'm sure I'm not hamering him. VC please

Any reason that you wanted to save you vote for the hammer?

why part of the word [b][color=#FF0000]NOT do you not understand?

when asking a man if he understands the word not, try to avoid the word not.

why not?

you mean why. see? it leads to grammar errors.

[Yomiel]

Everything you asked was clear from the beginning. And most of it is just you doing the same thing you tried to do when I voted for Vodean.

[crazymilkshake5]

Mod Note

I dont prod people. if you want me to prod someone it must be in pink, followed by the person reciving the prod.

Prod CMS

BTW deadline is tomorrow, July 1st

End mod note