Princess Bride Mafia! D3

[Commander9]

I'm thinking about voting commander....just because

There is something about khiva that i just can't put my finger on. He reminds me too much of myself when I am scum.

To be fair, that would actually have some basis this time around - I've not been all that active and haven't contributed all that much, although we did get Sax.

[VioIet]

My votes on you always have basis

But honestly, i don't see anything scummy about you this game. You say you've had periods of inactivity- but I think that goes for just about everyone in this game.

Getting saxi was awesome for Day 1. And I can tell we have a smart mafia on our hands, as they either voted sax as well, or completely stayed out of that discussion. I am going for the later, because I don't think even very skilled scum, would vote their godfather.

Wasn't it stated that aage and tails were the only two who didn't vote sax?

I think i will be looking into that a bit.

[aage]

Getting saxi was awesome for Day 1. And I can tell we have a smart mafia on our hands, as they either voted sax as well, or completely stayed out of that discussion. I am going for the later, because I don't think even very skilled scum, would vote their godfather.

Wasn't it stated that aage and tails were the only two who didn't vote sax?

This'll probably look like an over-defence, but I think I also already made clear that I was inactive for a few days, returned and found a dead godfather. So no, I probably didn't vote Saxlad.

As for the skilled scum, well there's either a usurper that just had the best play ever, or the GF was just an idiot. I strongly suspect the latter.

[spurgistan]

The "names on a list" thing, to me at the very least, was pretty strong evidence of a stupid godfather. Sorry, sax.

[VioIet]

Okay, so we've heard from Aage.

I think Sax thought that his goons would back him up, but they remained silent to conceal themselves.

Anyways, I'm going to Vote Tails.

You can consider that a prod to hear his analysis about the sax..lad thing Day 1.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

By that rationale, Violet, you should also vote for Khiva since he didn't participate in the lynch of Sax. Sax's lynch occurred in just over 24 hours, so frankly with the amount of games I'm in (at the time), there wasn't ample time to review the case. It was flavor spec that led to his lynch.

-Tails

[VioIet]

By that rationale, Violet, you should also vote for Khiva since he didn't participate in the lynch of Sax. Sax's lynch occurred in just over 24 hours, so frankly with the amount of games I'm in (at the time), there wasn't ample time to review the case. It was flavor spec that led to his lynch.

-Tails

You are right- I will question khiva next.

Khiva- where were you on the night of saxi's lynch?

No vote for him? Any reason why?

Have to promote discussion someway..somehow.

[Khiva]

Fair enough. Because I didn't get to cast one of the three votes that actually meant anything. Incidentally this rationale seems to help GA7, Nax, and you who would be my chief suspects at this point. GA7 was way too cool with there being 2 NKs, Nax hoped on the Tails wagon, and from you earlier comment I would say you're doing it wrong since if I was scum I would play it more like you. I'm incredibly bored.

[VioIet]

Fair enough. Because I didn't get to cast one of the three votes that actually meant anything. Incidentally this rationale seems to help GA7, Nax, and you who would be my chief suspects at this point. GA7 was way too cool with there being 2 NKs, Nax hoped on the Tails wagon, and from you earlier comment I would say you're doing it wrong since if I was scum I would play it more like you. I'm incredibly bored.

I really don't think that defense did any justice for you. Ga7 was very active on saxi's lynch. That doesn't necessarily give him a free pass- from some metagaming i've done- he's been known to insult and vote for scummates. But- as far as i'm concerned, Ga7's actions have been protown.

I didn't notice anything as for as nax- but i still need to do another reread- so will keep an eye out for his posts.

I don't know if i like that incredibly bored comment. Somewhat seems like something a scum would say after losing their godfather. Of from not being able to kill as many townies as they would like. I think I will vote you for the comment alone, so I can end your boredom.

Vote Khiva

[VioIet]

Vote Khiva

[TA1LGUNN3R]

C'mon people, we can't build cases against one another if there's no posting.

I am going for the later, because I don't think even very skilled scum, would vote their godfather.

Skilled scum would do precisely this, if it became apparent that their GF was clearly gonna be lynched. If not, it would be obvious because they would be among the few who didn't vote for him/her.

It's easy for you say this considering xuereb the submariner popped in for the lynch of Sax and disappeared, and now you're moving from aage, me, to Khiva. FOS to you, Violet.

-Tails

[Khiva]

Vote Khiva

That had to have been irritating. Anyway, it's nice of you to say i'm not getting any justice. Ga7 wasn't 'very active' in Sax's lynch. His last post before that was the 2nd, and according to Edo's vote count right before he posted on the 11th his next was about 12 hrs till the deadline which already had enough votes to lynch Sax anyway. He forgot to redvote which I pointed out, so while as far as your concerned I don't buy how your assigning protown credit, but shouldn't I have gotten his credit for that? In the same vein, it's one thing if Nax's isn't your suspect of choice, but if you can't find anything suspicious I find that suspicious.

As for the rest, it's even weaker than your last argument, and of course it doesn't help with my suspicions of you. Though I do appreciate the effort, if I do bail it won't be because of you.

[Khiva]

That last bit did come out negative. I'm as much to blame as anyone else, I mean thanks for tying Violet.

[VioIet]

I am going for the later, because I don't think even very skilled scum, would vote their godfather.

Skilled scum would do precisely this, if it became apparent that their GF was clearly gonna be lynched. If not, it would be obvious because they would be among the few who didn't vote for him/her.

It's easy for you say this considering xuereb the submariner popped in for the lynch of Sax and disappeared, and now you're moving from aage, me, to Khiva. FOS to you, Violet.

-Tails

As you said from your own mouth "skilled scum would definitely vote for their godfather if it was apparent that he were going to be lynched."

Since we don't know who's scum yet- we can't exactly say whether they are skilled or not.
So wouldn't the most logical thing, be to first question those who didn't participate in the lynch? We have to start somewhere.
I think that is the most pro-town thing to do right now.

And khiva- you raised some interesting points, so i will have to do another re-read. I honestly thought Ga7 was the first one to call bull on saxi's claim.

[Commander9]

Not Sute I really believe that reading through... Sorry havent been posting much been busy in rl.

Doing this mobile so excuse the lack of boldness or red but vote Clive

Unless you can either prove that this character was bad in the movie or that Clive is not him, this doesn't look good for you at all. You might want to provide the explanation for this, but for now vote Saxlad.

Just to correct the facts - I started the BW on Sax.

[naxus]

unvote

Vote Violet. I feel like shes trying to get a lynch or case against someone nonessential while covering her tracks and trying to sweep what xerub did yesterday

[aage]

This is yet funnier.

By that rationale, Violet, you should also vote for Khiva since he didn't participate in the lynch of Sax.

Vote Khiva

I think I'll throw another vote VioIet. This game needs to get moving, seriously.

[VioIet]

unvote

Vote Violet. I feel like shes trying to get a lynch or case against someone nonessential while covering her tracks and trying to sweep what xerub did yesterday

I don't really know what xeureb did yesterday. I did re-read, and only noticed him being inactive.

And someone has to try to get things going.

Commander, i considered the bandwagon on sax to be after he made the comment about having a group of townies. I believe that post you quoted occurred before.

I would like to see a vote count.

[edocsil]

Vote Count

Violet (2) ~ Naxus, aage
Khiva (1) ~ Violet
Naxus (1) ~ Spurgistan
Tailgunner (1) ~ Ga7
Aage (1) ~ Tailgunner

Pardon the delay for getting this out but, ask and you shall receive. I hope this is right, as I really cannot see the bolded votes. I tried to cont them but I may have easily misses some. There is a reason I asked for red.

[VioIet]

Okay, I just did another re-read.

Can't believe the PM I just got from the mod. Makes me not want to play anymore.
Whatever, I'm Fezzik pro-town Roleblocker.

@ Clive, I will prod inactives, you were needed for the game to continue and did not bother to post. If this bothers you PM me, but do not discus it further in the thread.

Hmm, I wonder what happened behind the scenes here. Guess I will have to wait til the end of the game to find out.

Can't believe the PM I just got from the mod. Makes me not want to play anymore.
Whatever, I'm Fezzik pro-town Roleblocker.

As much as I don't like your attitude, Fezzik is an important character in the story and unless someone will counter this claim, I will consider him as Fezzik. From my quick read, he seemed harmless enough and pro-town material, so unvote.

Commander, this does seem a bit contradictory. This post really stood out to me. Commander had been pretty active against.
Even when ga7 and anark supported clive, commander voiced his disagreement.
Then after clive claims, commander says his actions have been harmless and pro-town. However, he stated several that he thought clive putting 40k/tails at L-3 was scummy.
His reasons were:
No need to try to quick lynch sombody for inactivity when the mod says they are going to be replaced soon.
Even though its Day 1- we still want to try to get the best lynch possible

Opposing Reasons
Day 1 is completely random, odd- no leads. Its best to get the game moving and lynch someone quickly- and then later in the game, you can start building cases.

Commander stood to his point of view pretty strongly saying that what clive did was scummy. I can understand him unvoting clive by believing his claim- but not to also add- his actions were harmless and pro-town. Why go after him if his actions were harmless? Just doesn't make sense.

Aage also put a vote towards clive for similar reasons.
I believe Tails made a small case against aage- saying that this was a likely case that scum would propose to appear pro-town.

Aage did unvote clive, after he claimed. Sax threw a fake argument against clive- which leads me to believe that there is a mafia roleblocker out there.

I reveal too much in mafia games. Safe to say I kmow a rolebloker but not a name, Clive is not that roleblocker.

And then commander posted this:

Okay, you may "know" that you're town, but we don't. Furthermore, naxus does make a good point that this specific action of yours definitely was scummy. While I do understand that you're knew and I do think that most likely you are town (although that roleblock role doesn't fit with your character at all), the way you are playing this is not doing you any favours.

Commander posted that after saying clive's actions were harmless. So which one is it?

This isn't really enough to warrant a vote or even a FOS on commander, however it is something I did notice. Trying to analyze the posts to build a case- and I still don't really have one. I only have the slightly suspicious instinct against khiva, so will keep my vote on him for now.

Despite that contradiction, commander does seem pro-town. I don't think the mafia would have challenged clive that strongly- as they would have known before hand that he was town.
Sax tried to challenge clive- and we see where that got him.

[Commander9]

Vio, please read.

[quote=Commander9]As much as I don't like your attitude, Fezzik is an important character in the story and unless someone will counter this claim, I will consider him as Fezzik. From my quick read, he seemed harmless enough and pro-town material, so unvote.[/quote]

What I meant from my quick read ABOUT Fezzik (not Clive), Fezzik's character was harmless enough and he would be pro-town material.

[ga7]

HAI sorry for the inactivity the little time I spend on CC lately is filled with clan shitzel to take care of and having too many games to play. Will catch up tomorrow (copypasta ftwzel)

[VioIet]

Vio, please read.

[quote=Commander9]As much as I don't like your attitude, Fezzik is an important character in the story and unless someone will counter this claim, I will consider him as Fezzik. From my quick read, he seemed harmless enough and pro-town material, so unvote.

What I meant from my quick read ABOUT Fezzik (not Clive), Fezzik's character was harmless enough and he would be pro-town material.[/quote]


Ah okay. I understand what you meant now. You were talking about the character (Fezzik). When I first read it, I thought you meant Clive.

[Commander9]

Ah okay. I understand what you meant now. You were talking about the character (Fezzik). When I first read it, I thought you meant Clive.

Nope, Clive was active like an ass for pretty much the whole day - it wouldn't have made any sense if I had said he did not. I thought I posted clear enough. If not, apologies.

[edocsil]

Spugistan has told me he is going on vacation, and I now need a replacement.

Deadline is Wed, the 16th.

There are currently 8 players, so it is 5 to lynch. At the end of the day if anyone is at L-1 they will be hung.