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[charm]

I must say I also got poisoned in the night but I don't know what it did. Btw Epitaph is trying his best to get a replacement for me, as I cant keep up with all of this.

If you're town, then you should be doing everything you can to help us. We have already lost too many. You are now poisoned, which means the mafia is coming for you. Fight and quit looking to be replaced! I would think that is pretty scummy!

FP'd by Madmitch

[Talapus]

Pixar - He saved STORR last night for christ's sake. STORR!! A claimed 3rd party over a pretty much confirmed townie spy in degaston...

Your logic here is complete shit and you know it. You listed him last night before Pix ever preformed this action. Talk about grasping at straws.

I voted you all day one and with certain things you say I just can't lose the feeling that my vote may have been well placed. You continue to say things that just bug me and I can't put my finger on it exactly but it is there.

[Talapus]

Here is Storr's message:
They are all weak!
The time is now to take our chance and strike at the boy.
Streaker, they are distracteacted while they mourn for their precious little elf.
They are not paying attention as they grieve.
Strike at him Streaker take him out. The mourning will pass in another day or so.
Do not disappoint us!

Here is the message I received:
"Trusting Streaker was a mistake!
We must strike at the boy before we loose the oppurtunity.
virus90, they are still distracteacted.
They may even think they have us on the run.
Strike at him virus90 and take him out. We can not keep a window such as this open long.
Do not disappoint us!"

So, a few questions I see:
1. Who is "Us"
2. Why is distracted spelled distracteacted? This was pointed out with the first message, therefore it can't be a mistake.
3. Why are Storr and I receiving messages intended for Streaker and Virus?
4. Ora are we to be looking closer at Virus and Streaker?
4. Is the boy Mtam?

I think it is safe to assume that yes the boy refers to Harry Potter but as to whether or not that is mtam has yet to be determined. I made sense in a way I guess that storr got the message as I'm sure he over hears and finds all sorts of crap in the halls at Hogwarts. But why send it your way? virus90 certainly isn't actively posting so makes it hard to talk to him about this but is there some night mechanic that's making these go to wrong people. With one death I find it hard to buy that there is a third party kill role in game so that doesn't make sense.

Maybe it is some kind of recruitment mechanic for cult or something. Use your ability on the claimed HP to become a member instead of cult just blindly indoctrinating people. But that still doesn't explain others finding notes unless the note gets found if those people decide not to go for it and refuse offer? It's still hard to figure out.

[strike wolf]

The closest thing I can relate it to is the psychic link that Harry and Voldemort shared. Especially after Voldemort became aware of the link and started trying to manipulate Harry with it but why would it get to Storr and Charm?

[Talapus]

The closest thing I can relate it to is the psychic link that Harry and Voldemort shared. Especially after Voldemort became aware of the link and started trying to manipulate Harry with it but why would it get to Storr and Charm?

That's a good thought, but if I remember correctly Harry was only one aware of connection. Ron and Hermoine only knew about it because Harry said something and I don't think our claimed harry has spoken up about it at all.

[HotShot53]

I am now home from vacation, and finally back on my computer now So I will be a lot more active this day than I was the last one. It's late and I'm really tired now, so if I tried to make a post with content now it wouldn't make sense... so I will look over where we are and what's all happening tomorrow.

[dd515087]

Pixar - He saved STORR last night for christ's sake. STORR!! A claimed 3rd party over a pretty much confirmed townie spy in degaston...

Your logic here is complete shit and you know it. You listed him last night before Pix ever preformed this action. Talk about grasping at straws.

I voted you all day one and with certain things you say I just can't lose the feeling that my vote may have been well placed. You continue to say things that just bug me and I can't put my finger on it exactly but it is there.

LOL. This is not why I originally had him on my list obviously, do you truly think I'm an idiot? I felt like that was enough justification for not trusting him and I don't exactly remember why I didn't trust him beforehand plus too lazy to go back and look right now.

Also would you care pointing these things that I say out instead of just being super vague?

Also what do you think about Endgame and my case against him?

[Talapus]

Also would you care pointing these things that I say out instead of just being super vague?

Also what do you think about Endgame and my case against him?

Well day one it was the way you dumped your vote on a player and left it which I stated then. D2 you actually made lots of sense in some of your posts. And you are asking for specifics and I would have to go look as I'm on phone now and quoting is damn near impossible. But it isn't necessarily one specific quote or thing you say it's how or when you say it?!?! I don't know will try to narrow it down for you but it's something, just rubbing me the wrong way maybe....lol

Endgame is definitely getting some much deserved attention from you and others and the case against him has some merit but I really want to hear from from everyone else and see if we discover any more about night actions that may have been discovered or reviewed before we really start pushing the endgame bandwagon.

[Streaker]

Dazza i dont think your retarded im thinking pix is trying to act dumb so we dont lynch him(see strikes too dumb to be scum comment)
You being so willing to die for him kinda validates this thinking that pix is important scum.
Although i suppose hes now been poisoned so i can wait until tomorrow.
If pixar survives the night(again) ill be putting everything into lynching him tomorrow.
Or if dazza shows up as scum that would be enough for me to lynch pix for sure.
FPd by storr

How do you ever see dazza as scum trying to protect more important scum? It's completely pointless, because if the information we get when he flips. I read it 100% as a low role trying to protect the claimed doc.
Why are you so keen on lynching the doc? You actually seem happy he's been poisoned.


Charm, do you know who sent you that note? Also, I already said to you that half-claiming isn't doing us any good but waste time. If you say you got stolen (and not your vote), I can only imagine you lost your wand?

Claimed doc protecting the squibb over our protagonist who got us the first scum. Yeah.

Seeing how everyone is speculating on the Dumbledore (fake)claim: it's also possible Rage made a play knowing he'd get lynched anyway by claiming Dumble, and hoping the real one would counter him. You know, get information for his buddies. So many options and no information.


I don't believe pressuring Mitch (Ron) for a full claim is usefull. If he has information for town that is important, I'm sure he will let us know (though it is mitch). I agree however that his posts contain nothing of worth to town, and that he needs to step up and contribute.

Mtam needs to come back and help us out, being the main character and all he's done nothing for town so far except convince half of us he's scum.

I'm definitely not liking Talapus today. My next post is gonna dig a bit deeper there.
Also I'm up for pressuring End today.

[Streaker]

Why in the world would you protect third party instead of claimed townie?

And no, I highly doubt you suppossedly protecting storr is the reason we only had one death. Something else had to have happened.

Shining doubt over the claimed doc. I'm assuming a 'real' doc gonna have counter claimed by now.

I did get a note, streaker swapped our actions of dd5 and myself.
So regarding this, its likely one of streaker/dd5/myself are a liar.
.

What do you mean by note? Like Streaker contacted you and told you actions were switched or like the mod let you know something is up?

Honestly too dd's last post yesterday was scummy hell so him being a liar is totally believable.

DD's last post was a list of players he 'would find scummy if they hammered'. While I didn't particularly like this post either, it's not scummy as hell. Bad play yes, but not scummy. The majority of that list was lurking, so I can see dd's angle with it. Calling it scummy as hell is over the top.
Also you are jumping in the direction that Storr is pointing you in. How can you still be controlled by what Storr has to say? You not calling out storr (or myself) as possible liars is also incredibly strange. You just focus dd.

Pixar - He saved STORR last night for christ's sake. STORR!! A claimed 3rd party over a pretty much confirmed townie spy in degaston...

Your logic here is complete shit and you know it. You listed him last night before Pix ever preformed this action. Talk about grasping at straws.

I voted you all day one and with certain things you say I just can't lose the feeling that my vote may have been well placed. You continue to say things that just bug me and I can't put my finger on it exactly but it is there.

DD calls out the action of the doc saving storr over the confirmed cop (which is beyond words), but you say that's just bad logic from storr?

In general your posts also contain a high level of speculation (flavour and otherwise).

In your last post so far you even call dd's posts on D2 'lot's of sense', and you seem to agree with his case on Endgame.
You are pushing dd really hard without an actual case there. Also you say we can't push a case without the information of night actions first... Right.

Vote Talapus

[virus90]

i dont get the notes either,
i havent gotten a message or something myself so why i am mentioned is a mystery for me aswell.
would it mean i have to vote for lynching harry ("strike at") ?

as for which possible fake claims to follow i do agree that madmitch is a possibility. no skill is really claimed and he is only posting flavour, in this flavour he is claiming "no wand" no ability, so in my opinion a valid target.
he does pose that apparently Hermione got poisoned. not sure if its in one of the 80 pages or that they are masons or something.

[aage]

I believe that puts Rage at L-1. Off the top of my head: virus, charm, talapus, endgame, madmitch, pixar either need to be pressured or talk more tomorrow and if any of them provide the hammer I will find it extraordinarily scummy

I want a motivation for this list. Talapus shouldn't have been in it, imo.

Virus - inactive, I'm pretty sure he posted once on D3. If he came in just to hammer Ragian I would find that scummy.
Charm - pretty much the same deal as virus. She is a little bit more active, but she seems to be dodging any questions anyone asks.
Talapus - Most of his posts are just bullshit "Hey look I'm active" posts IMO and I don't recall him making a case on anyone this game.
Endgame - do I really have to elaborate more on why he is scum?
Madmitch - pretty inactive, makes a strong name claim, but still does nothing to help town and has pretty much faded into the background
Pixar - He saved STORR last night for christ's sake. STORR!! A claimed 3rd party over a pretty much confirmed townie spy in degaston...

Why don't you think Talapus should be on it? Is he your scum buddy?

No, I wanted a specific answer about Talapus because I think you're not paying attention. And it's what I thought. These are the wrong reasons.

Out of the list you made, Talapus stands out because I don't think of him as a scumariner. He had been active throughout day 3, taken a very serious stance by the end of the day on lynching Dumbledore. Because he didn't want to lynch the claimed Dumbledore. That is why it would be scummy for him to hammer Ragian.

The argument against Pixar is really bad. First of all, it's new information; during N2 he protected Mtam. When you made this list, that was the latest info. Pixar protecting Storr is weird, yes, but irrelevant to your list. Besides, do you seriously think Pixar is mafia?

You call out the other people on inactivity as a reason why they can't hammer... If you hadn't voted and one of them had put in their vote, would that not have been scummy? You put in the L-1 vote yourself. Why shouldn't you be scummy? You haven't been very active yourself.

[aage]

Streaker, since you're building on Talapus, what do you think of this post, end day 3?

Is this really the general concensus of the the game is to lynch the claimed Dumbledore? I mean, after rereading and not being able to come up with a plausible explanation of why that curse would be used by him for good I understand. I will even vote for Rag myself if needed. I was just really hoping the real Dumbledore or believeable explanation would have appeared by now that can explain it all.

Also I'm curious. I know Ron has claimed and I don't want him really to come forward and say as night abilities are not needed to be claimed at this moment. But I would assume that Ron, HP, and Hermione would be masons so could probably talk at night. But for the life of me can't remember a past mafia game with multiple same faction mason groups. Has anyone encountered this before?

I ask because it makes the whole cult is probably among us thing concerning.

[Streaker]

I have already adressed that specific post:

Is this really the general concensus of the the game is to lynch the claimed Dumbledore? I mean, after rereading and not being able to come up with a plausible explanation of why that curse would be used by him for good I understand. I will even vote for Rag myself if needed. I was just really hoping the real Dumbledore or believeable explanation would have appeared by now that can explain it all.

Also I'm curious. I know Ron has claimed and I don't want him really to come forward and say as night abilities are not needed to be claimed at this moment. But I would assume that Ron, HP, and Hermione would be masons so could probably talk at night. But for the life of me can't remember a past mafia game with multiple same faction mason groups. Has anyone encountered this before?

I ask because it makes the whole cult is probably among us thing concerning.

It's the same discussion as we had all game, basicly. D1 mtamb should have been lynched, saved by HP claim.
Pixar same story. The main difference is the crucio curse being linked to Rage now. There's really no excuse not to lynch him.
I really dislike your post in general, as you are trying to lure out the 'real' dumbledore (if any). The 'explanation' you are looking for will come anyway when he flips.
To this you add a fishing hook for Ron, which is completely pointless. The fact that you bring it up is scummy, what are you hoping to achieve with the information of the 'Big Three' being masons?

After these posts I went into a small discussion with Talapus. It's all there at the end of D3.
It came down to Talapus being seriously defensive over a minor issue (flavour spec).

I started distrusting Talapus after that post, and his follow-up today hasn't improved my feelings toward him.

[aage]

But now that Ragian flipped scum, do you think that makes it more likely that Talapus is scum too, or less likely?

[StorrZerg]

Dazza care to take a more vocal role as to who we should lynch today?

[Endgame422]

As far as me wanting pix dead its fairly true.
I was thinking he has fakeclaimed hermoine based on rages defense of him. Admittedly it could have been to gain towncred if Pix flipped town but thsts not how i have read it.
With last nights action(storr) it just shows me that even if he is doc is doesnt matter.
But if hes poisoned then theres no point in lynching him so ill drop it.
Case on tal seems ok.
End of day3 he was fishing for the real dumbledore/half defending rage.
Id say im for dazza leading a case today but i expect it would be against me since ive been pushing pix and he doesnt much like that.

[Streaker]

Id say im for dazza leading a case today but i expect it would be against me since ive been pushing pix and he doesnt much like that.

Explain this part please. You want to follow daza on a case today?

[MudPuppy]

Just want to give a heads up that I'm not going to be very active D4 (no sinister spells... just unplanned real life stuff). I'll try to read along when I can (today and tomorrow before I go on road trip with limited access) but will likely follow Strike's lead since he's my one big town read left after Mad Eye's death. Just hoping there's not a cult in the works as I'm guessing Strike woulda been a prime target.

Anyway, wish I could be more involved but I can't. Will do the best I can.

[StorrZerg]

cult theory. Cult can't recruit mafia or 3rd party, and we see the msg because those who claim it, are not town.

We are missing a note.

[Endgame422]

Dazza was fairly quiet yesterday and id like to see who he is interested in lynching.
Like i said i expect hell push me because i think his protection of pix is suspect(and called it out) and i already have a small wagon.
His reads and push on someone may be illuminating.

[sempaispellcheck]

we see the msg because those who claim it, are not town.

Not sure I understand what you mean by this. Can you explain it a bit more clearly?

sempai

[aage]

cult theory. Cult can't recruit mafia or 3rd party, and we see the msg because those who claim it, are not town.

We are missing a note.

In this theory, how do you explain the names showing up on the notes? It's possible but the notes still don't make sense.

[StorrZerg]

cult theory. Cult can't recruit mafia or 3rd party, and we see the msg because those who claim it, are not town.

We are missing a note.

In this theory, how do you explain the names showing up on the notes? It's possible but the notes still don't make sense.

Actually probably is an indication of who visited? Named streaker as the person who visited me. And he claimed He did.

I have no real idea other wise. Other than to fk with people.

[StorrZerg]

we see the msg because those who claim it, are not town.

Not sure I understand what you mean by this. Can you explain it a bit more clearly?

sempai

Cults can't recruit mafia. Sometimes they die when they do. Sometimes action fails. Stands to reason 3rd party can't be recruited as well.

So streaker could have messed up the msg with his bus, hence why I got it. And why it came to charm.

Additionally no note showed up first night. We should have seen one.