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[degaston]

Also, this argument against Storr trying to save his own skin is pretty unconvincing. I can imagine very few cases in which even a member of the town would resign themselves to dying if there was a chance of lynching someone else instead, even if that someone else had a high possibility of being town too (since the person in question knows there's a 100% chance they themselves are town).

There is 100% chance that Storr is not town.

[aage]

Vote Skill

hanging Storr is fucking stupid as discussed countless times before.

[aage]

Also, this argument against Storr trying to save his own skin is pretty unconvincing. I can imagine very few cases in which even a member of the town would resign themselves to dying if there was a chance of lynching someone else instead, even if that someone else had a high possibility of being town too (since the person in question knows there's a 100% chance they themselves are town).

There is 100% chance that Storr is not town.

there's also a 99% chance that Storr is not scum.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Also, this argument against Storr trying to save his own skin is pretty unconvincing. I can imagine very few cases in which even a member of the town would resign themselves to dying if there was a chance of lynching someone else instead, even if that someone else had a high possibility of being town too (since the person in question knows there's a 100% chance they themselves are town).

There is 100% chance that Storr is not town.

there's also a 99% chance that Storr is not scum.

There's also a 32.65% chance that Storr is recruiter

[aage]

My response: you are doing this purely to keep yourself alive and don't care about whether or not Skill turns up as scum.

The deg thing is a red herring at this point. It's a lot of words to save yourself.

this is a bullshit self fulfilling prophecy - first vote storr, then claim that it's scummy that he's trying to get the votes off him.

[aage]

The thing is, lynching skill does pretty much nothing to determine Degaston in anyway. A follower would seemingly be the right fit for wand/no wand, and that really has nothing to do with alignment. You can be a town or mafia follower.

Skill being a friend of harry's as dobby makes sense. What scum group would dobby realistically be a part of?

THE MAFIA WHERE DOBBY IS NOT HIS ACTUAL ROLE?

Seriously... you do understand the concept "fake claim", yes?

[Metsfanmax]

Also, this argument against Storr trying to save his own skin is pretty unconvincing. I can imagine very few cases in which even a member of the town would resign themselves to dying if there was a chance of lynching someone else instead, even if that someone else had a high possibility of being town too (since the person in question knows there's a 100% chance they themselves are town).

There is 100% chance that Storr is not town.

You are completely certain that Storr is not town? 100% is a very high standard. Would you bet $10,000 against my $1 on this point?

[degaston]

Also, this argument against Storr trying to save his own skin is pretty unconvincing. I can imagine very few cases in which even a member of the town would resign themselves to dying if there was a chance of lynching someone else instead, even if that someone else had a high possibility of being town too (since the person in question knows there's a 100% chance they themselves are town).

There is 100% chance that Storr is not town.

there's also a 99% chance that Storr is not scum.

There's also a 32.65% chance that Storr is recruiter

[aage]

Flipping skill just doesn't tell us anything that I can see would be super impactful. Flipping storr might actually tell us something about mtam though.

Storr's flip will tell us absolutely nothing about Mtam since their roles are in no way related.
In fact, Storr's flip will tell us absolutely nothing even if he's 3rd party anti-town, since the nature of 3rd party is that nobody else is in his frickin' team. Go ahead and counter with your recruiter theory but the stances on lynching Storr haven't changed since day 1, I don't think.

[MudPuppy]

In fact, Storr's flip will tell us absolutely nothing even if he's 3rd party anti-town, since the nature of 3rd party is that nobody else is in his frickin' team.

His flip would tell us that his reads aren't tainted with scum bias. Since he's been active and Skill hasn't, Storr's flip provides more info. Likely a moot point for today, though.

[StorrZerg]

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[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Aage - I get that you're being efficient with your time of log in close the deadline, but how does that help town with building a case?

fp'd by Storr - think that is a bonus vote

[degaston]

fp'd by Storr - think that is a bonus vote

He probably knew that, and wanted to take credit if Skill flips scum, yet not take the blame if he's town.

[StorrZerg]

fp'd by Storr - think that is a bonus vote

He probably knew that, and wanted to take credit if Skill flips scum, yet not take the blame if he's town.

Yeah, cause my 20 posts to lynch skill, and I am totally banking on getting off scotch free if he flips town

[StorrZerg]

Also, this argument against Storr trying to save his own skin is pretty unconvincing. I can imagine very few cases in which even a member of the town would resign themselves to dying if there was a chance of lynching someone else instead, even if that someone else had a high possibility of being town too (since the person in question knows there's a 100% chance they themselves are town).

There is 100% chance that Storr is not town.

You are completely certain that Storr is not town? 100% is a very high standard. Would you bet $10,000 against my $1 on this point?

Right now I'm not town. Can you make me town mets pretty please

[aage]

Since there's still time, here's thoughts on current goings-on

Mets and Strike - hadn't noticed an unnatural relation between the two, someone mentioned that BG had been defending Mets on day one but I don't recall. For now I'll bite and say "lovers?", but we'll probably revisit this case on day three. For now I have no interest in potentially losing two townies, Strike isn't the player to fake claim lover/mason on his mafia mate's behalf.

The skill wagon - I said before I'd support it if no other cases were better, I stand by that. If he is the VT he claims to be, it's a good worst case scenario and it gives insight into Deg's role as I also mentioned in a previous post, and I do want to know if his result is legit. (note)

I gotta say that if we are to decide between Stor and Skillfu, I'm voting Stor. VT > 3rd party. I expect I'm heading for an argument with that.

You called it - losing a near non-posting VT opposed to a very active 3rd party is definitely preferable. Earlier today someone said they'd been discussing with Storr and pretty much nobody else - this should be indicative enough of his value atm.

The case against Storr- this is the same old story ever since he claimed; apparently you people are so afraid of Storr being something dangerous because he said he was a 3rd party survivor without a wand. Somehow the lynch on Pershy is his fault because his massive powers of persuasion have convinced us all to follow his lead - unsurprising. He is one of the few actually trying to take the lead. Mtam seems like an obvious choice - but he apparently doesn't care for this game too much. Sempai has proven his role ability, therefore his alignment is very convincing - but he doesn't post either, even though I see him online all the damn time. The Ron and Hermione claims are respectively doing nothing and trying to get Mtam lynched. Degaston isn't proven and I still won't trust him until after this lynch, and he seems only interested in lynching Storr which only enforces my distrust. Storr is the last remaining claim on the table, and his reputation as a player should make anyone think twice before hanging him.

Now Skillfu claims to be a VT without a wand and without powers. One difference between them role-wise: Storr's flavour matches his alignment and (lack of) ability. Skill's claim matches his alignment, but not his (lack of) ability. Two differences game-wise: Storr claimed off the bat, Skillfu claimed after 4 votes were cast on him. Storr is actively looking for discussion and hunting scum, Skillfu doesn't post shit. Role-wise, yes, it would be better to keep the VT, but I'd rather keep Storr around and lynch a scummy player with an odd claim, since he's more likely to actually flip scum.

In fact, Storr's flip will tell us absolutely nothing even if he's 3rd party anti-town, since the nature of 3rd party is that nobody else is in his frickin' team.

His flip would tell us that his reads aren't tainted with scum bias. Since he's been active and Skill hasn't, Storr's flip provides more info. Likely a moot point for today, though.

So you're saying you think Storr is actually Mafia rather than this mysterious third party recruiter now?


Fp by a few

Aage - I get that you're being efficient with your time of log in close the deadline, but how does that help town with building a case?

It doesn't, but I'm posting nonetheless since I haven't been home since yesterday morning.


Lol @Storr, maybe you could ask the mod nicely once these people eventually do manage to get you axed.

[MudPuppy]

In fact, Storr's flip will tell us absolutely nothing even if he's 3rd party anti-town, since the nature of 3rd party is that nobody else is in his frickin' team.

His flip would tell us that his reads aren't tainted with scum bias. Since he's been active and Skill hasn't, Storr's flip provides more info. Likely a moot point for today, though.

So you're saying you think Storr is actually Mafia rather than this mysterious third party recruiter now?

Thanks for that accurate summary of my read on Storr, Ms. Skeeter.

[aage]

In fact, Storr's flip will tell us absolutely nothing even if he's 3rd party anti-town, since the nature of 3rd party is that nobody else is in his frickin' team.

His flip would tell us that his reads aren't tainted with scum bias. Since he's been active and Skill hasn't, Storr's flip provides more info. Likely a moot point for today, though.

So you're saying you think Storr is actually Mafia rather than this mysterious third party recruiter now?

Thanks for that accurate summary of my read on Storr, Ms. Skeeter.

Oh, sorry, my bad. I just found the original post detailing your case on Storr:

HE COULD BE BAD!!!1!1!!ONE!!!!!!!11!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Aage - I get that you're being efficient with your time of log in close the deadline, but how does that help town with building a case?

It doesn't, but I'm posting nonetheless since I haven't been home since yesterday morning.

Look at this people. A polite admittance of unhelpful behaviour. That earns benefit of the doubt. There is never any need to start arguing that not logging in till the deadline is by some measure the most town play one can make. Just admit that its not helpful and move on. Saves everyone so much time.

Lol Storr - Are you really claiming that you would never claim 3rd party whilst town just to mess about with Scum? Not even once in 10,000 games?

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

Pixar - mtamburini, charm
Mets - Storr, sempai
skill - Strike, dd, Mets, mitch, Streaker, Endgame, virus, Wing, Talapus, sempai, aage, sempai
Storr - skill, Mud, dega, Hotshot, tonka

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch

THAT'S A LYNCH. SILENCE.

(All votes after the hammer not counted)

[sempaispellcheck]

Sempai has proven his role ability, therefore his alignment is very convincing - but he doesn't post either, even though I see him online all the damn time.

Just to clear the air on this, I haven't had time to post, but I've had time to read - and part of the reason I haven't had time to post is because there's so much to read that it takes a lot of time for me to make sense of it all.
I am doing my best to be as active and helpful as possible.

sempai

[Epitaph1]

"Aren't you Malfoy's elf?" someone asked.

"Dobby is a free elf!" Dobby retorted.

"No, no, no. You're definitely Malfoy's and everyone knows he supports You Know Who," someone else mentioned.

"Dobby is only loyal to Mr. Harry Potter, sir," Dobby pleaded.

Before Dobby could utter any more words, the crowd swooped in and strung him up.

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It is now Night 2. Actions due by 2pm Eastern Time Monday (74 hours or so).

MOD NOTE: Do not talk after I have called silence.

[Epitaph1]

The mood at Hogwarts was grim. Even people who didn't particularly care for house elves felt the loss of Dobby. Not only did everyone feel dread over the many deaths they'd seen since arriving at school, but a thick anxiety settled in over the fear of what may come next.

It came as little surprise the next morning to find that another death had occurred in the night. However, what was a surprise was there was not one, but two deaths! A new feeling reverberated that morning--shock. And the anxiety only deepened.

The first death was that of the Minister of Magic--Cornelius Fudge. He had taken a personal interest in the affairs of Hogwarts after hearing the rumors about the Death Eaters. Like any politician, sentiments varied towards him and quite frankly, no one knew where he stood on any particular issue. Even regarding Voldemort, no one quite knew where Fudge stood. They found his body lying in a hallway with an expressionless look on his face.

The other death was much more gruesome. Nymphadora Tonks was well liked and respected by all who knew her. Although there was no blood or wounds to be found on her, the expression on her face was of pure agony. It was as if she had been tortured to death.

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[Epitaph1]

Day 3 has begun! With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.