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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby Senfive on Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:25 pm

ace1217 wrote:I can investigate two people each night, I get three facts, two are false and one is true. Last night I found that dano is scum and sheep is town and something about a twin thats more powerful then me.


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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby ace1217 on Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:05 pm

I claimed because / asked if anyone had any leads, and since I had a lead, I decided to say as such.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby / on Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:11 pm

ace1217 wrote:I can investigate two people each night, I get three facts, two are false and one is true. Last night I found that dano is scum and sheep is town and something about a twin thats more powerful then me.

What a coincidence! that's my role, and I was told I have a twin who's scum. :o
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby Senfive on Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:21 pm

/ wrote:
ace1217 wrote:I can investigate two people each night, I get three facts, two are false and one is true. Last night I found that dano is scum and sheep is town and something about a twin thats more powerful then me.

What a coincidence! that's my role, and I was told I have a twin who's scum. :o
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Will claims he does not have a PR
There is an evil version of me in the game
I wonder which one is true.


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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby danodukebb on Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:52 pm

why is this senfive voting for me based on "solid" advice, its a 50/50 shot there thats not too solid

vote senfive for looking very scummy jumping on me the second my name popped out
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby F1fth on Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:51 pm

/ wrote:
ace1217 wrote:I can investigate two people each night, I get three facts, two are false and one is true. Last night I found that dano is scum and sheep is town and something about a twin thats more powerful then me.

What a coincidence! that's my role, and I was told I have a twin who's scum. :o
...probably.
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PCM Claims he's scum
Will claims he does not have a PR
There is an evil version of me in the game
I wonder which one is true.


Aha! I don't know about the powerful part, but apparently, ace does have a twin.
Since that statement seems true, then of course, the other two would appear to be false.
If the other two are false, then dano would be town, and sheep would be scum.

But before I vote, three questions for /, PCM, and Will respectively:
1. (for /) Do you know anything about being more or less "powerful" than ace?
2. (for PCM) You don't really claim you're scum, do you? I ask only to be certain. :P
3. (for Will) Do you claim to have a PR?
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby / on Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:05 pm

Er I'm not sure I really ask the people the questions, it's just how the mod makes the results show up.
If ace was telling the truth about the nature of his role, then it is exactly the same as mine.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby Senfive on Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:34 am

danodukebb wrote:why is this senfive voting for me based on "solid" advice, its a 50/50 shot there thats not too solid

vote senfive for looking very scummy jumping on me the second my name popped out


You are a Smart One you know. :roll:

How bout you not go back and ReRead the Thread Real Carefully Smart One. :roll:
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby F1fth on Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:48 am

Senfive wrote:
danodukebb wrote:why is this senfive voting for me based on "solid" advice, its a 50/50 shot there thats not too solid

vote senfive for looking very scummy jumping on me the second my name popped out


You are a Smart One you know. :roll:

How bout you not go back and ReRead the Thread Real Carefully Smart One. :roll:


He means: why were you going to vote him when there was a 2/3 chance that the statement that he was scum was a falsehood.

Also, you have done the same thing with Ace. It would make a lot more sense if the mod threw those statements in there for a twist. Can you imagine how unbalanced it would be if Ace were actually scum? And also why would he claim if he knew he had a twin and he was the evil one?

But now that I know the "powerful" statement is probably false, we can deduce that either dano or sheep must be scum.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby F1fth on Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:51 am

Also, I'd like to put in a call for both to claim. Before you do though, wait to see what other people think.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby ace1217 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:24 am

Oppps, made a mistake, its actually two true and one false, not the other way around.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby danodukebb on Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:09 am

oh that changes things, that means either me or sheep is scum for sure

Well as it's going to be called for, I am not scum, I am a townie with PR, I can only tell the truth in my posts, all facts that I state and have stated in the past have been true. I am town.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby danodukebb on Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:10 am

unvote
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby ace1217 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:18 am

Dano, it does NOT guarantee that you or sheep is scum, because the statement about you could be false and the other true. Vote dano Its the best lead we have and should go after it now.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby Senfive on Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:15 pm

ace1217 wrote:Dano, it does NOT guarantee that you or sheep is scum, because the statement about you could be false and the other true. Vote dano Its the best lead we have and should go after it now.




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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby Senfive on Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:17 pm

F1fth wrote:
Senfive wrote:
danodukebb wrote:why is this senfive voting for me based on "solid" advice, its a 50/50 shot there thats not too solid

vote senfive for looking very scummy jumping on me the second my name popped out


You are a Smart One you know. :roll:

How bout you not go back and ReRead the Thread Real Carefully Smart One. :roll:


He means: why were you going to vote him when there was a 2/3 chance that the statement that he was scum was a falsehood.

Also, you have done the same thing with Ace. It would make a lot more sense if the mod threw those statements in there for a twist. Can you imagine how unbalanced it would be if Ace were actually scum? And also why would he claim if he knew he had a twin and he was the evil one?

But now that I know the "powerful" statement is probably false, we can deduce that either dano or sheep must be scum.



Ok you don't go back either and look at my voting pattern. Maybe that won't tell you what my role is. Sigh. How Logical to not reread the entire article before making assumptions. Sigh
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby danodukebb on Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:24 pm

well ace, that just made you look scummy
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby ace1217 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:34 pm

Ummm... how on earth does that make me scummy?
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby danodukebb on Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:04 pm

because I role claimed right before your vote
what reason would you have to discredit my claim?
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby pancakemix on Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:45 pm

The only way I can think of / as being greater in power than ace is that he gets more accurate results than inaccurate. Since ace claims that he can get 2 truths and one falsehood and / claims the opposite is true for him, then there are a number of possibilities as to what is going on.

1. That statement is a falsehood. That would confirm that sheep and dano are both scum. This may or may not have any bearing on /'s discoveries. If it does, it would only be that ace is scum. This would, however, directly influence /'s other findings, and that would mean I'm pro-town and will does have a PR.

2. / is lying and is scum. This could make everything he said a falsehood and therefore ignorable. Whether or not ace has a powerful twin is up in the air.

I won't go through all of them now, but there's two to get us started. It doesn't really tell us much, but it'll get us started.

And 5th, I don't feel that question needs an answer. No one claims scum. I'm not scum and I don't claim it. Wait, I just answered. Crap. Ah, whatever.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby / on Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:52 pm

Well, Having two truthful statements vs. two lies doesn't say all that much about power, it just changes how you must look at the problem.
By the way the results I got the first night, as long as I'm claimed.
animorph claimed to be unable to vote (true)
Skoffin claimed not to be scum (false)
I will not say the third false statement I received yet, as it may be more useful for me look further into before saying.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby F1fth on Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:09 pm

pancakemix wrote:And 5th, I don't feel that question needs an answer. No one claims scum. I'm not scum and I don't claim it. Wait, I just answered. Crap. Ah, whatever.


I had to ask, you had to answer. ;) But unfortunately, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure that Senfive would claim scum. Let me explain:

Senfive must say the opposite of what he means. All of his unvotes are votes, all of his votes are unvotes. He did an absolutely atrocious job at making this clear, in part because of being a smart-ass and using sarcasm. If he had said something like "I don't have a post restriction" instead of implying that we reread the thread, we'd have picked up quite fast that he did and what it was.

I am even more flabbergasted that he expected us to notice this without him saying anything helpful.

But nonetheless, regarding this new information, /: I thought Skoffin did claim to not be scum. As a matter of fact, I know she did. Here:

Skoffin wrote::lol:
Me, scum? Peposterous! I am a dodgy looking townie with a PR though, (A miller type deal) but eh, atleast dead I won't have to do my PR :P


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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby pancakemix on Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:14 pm

F1fth wrote:
pancakemix wrote:And 5th, I don't feel that question needs an answer. No one claims scum. I'm not scum and I don't claim it. Wait, I just answered. Crap. Ah, whatever.


I had to ask, you had to answer. ;) But unfortunately, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure that Senfive would claim scum. Let me explain:

Senfive must say the opposite of what he means. All of his unvotes are votes, all of his votes are unvotes. He did an absolutely atrocious job at making this clear, in part because of being a smart-ass and using sarcasm. If he had said something like "I don't have a post restriction" instead of implying that we reread the thread, we'd have picked up quite fast that he did and what it was.

I am even more flabbergasted that he expected us to notice this without him saying anything helpful.


I had figured what Sen was up to. Either way, allow me to clarify. No one claims scum unless they must.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby / on Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:34 pm

I thought I said this before, the people don't claim anything to me (that I'm aware of) that's just how the mod phrases the character's answers as I question them.
scoffins character claimed not to be scum, a false statement, since the true statement was Animo's character's claim of being voteless. therefor I concluded scoffin was scum and accused the following day.
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Re: Logic mafia Day 3!! Inklosed is dead!!

Postby sheepofdumb on Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:42 pm

This being logic mafia the roles make sense. I was wondering how this would be logical.Wait here and look at dano. As soon as the 50/50 probability of him being scum comes up he tries to go for me and then switches off of me to ace. He's already flashed off two scum tells. 1). Voting for the guy in the same boat as him to get the jump. 2). He jumps to the accuser crying scum. Fireedud tried to do something like this (voting for the nexus) and I turned around and shot that cult recruiter at night.
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