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Postby I GOT SERVED on Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:48 pm

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spinwizard wrote:ok i am going to role claim too, i am also a cop, i investigated mandy and he is scum. also if we have 2 docs, 1 protect me, 1 freezie


If freezie is a Sane Cop (wich he obviously is givenhis result on HBH) that you are either Insane or Paranoid Cop.


QFT.

But believe it or not, spin could provide us with some important info, but only if we figure out what type of cop he is.
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Postby Serbia on Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:12 pm

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spinwizard wrote:ok i am going to role claim too, i am also a cop, i investigated mandy and he is scum. also if we have 2 docs, 1 protect me, 1 freezie


If freezie is a Sane Cop (wich he obviously is givenhis result on HBH) that you are either Insane or Paranoid Cop.


hmm... what to do? Unvote VOTE: Mandy Not that I feel real good about this, Mandalorian does give a good counter. But, do you have anything else to add, Mandy?
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Postby freezie on Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:12 pm

Who said there couldn't be 2 cops in this game? Althought it's pretty unlikely.....







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Postby dwightschrute on Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:17 pm

Koesen wrote:Fos Dwight
Fos Talapus


Not that they have done anything suspicious, but they show up right after the deaths of two mafia members, which had lead to the game being 'ruined'.

Since they don't seem to be replacing anybody else, it makes sense to assume that at least one of them is mafia.
why? 2 mafia have been killed already so why would either of us be assumed mafia.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:19 pm

freezie wrote:Who said there couldn't be 2 cops in this game? Althought it's pretty unlikely.....







Fos: Mandy For now..


Please explain your fos. If you know that you're Cop, and HBH prooves that you're sane, how can you doubt me based on another player's Cop claim.

FOS Chad for blatant submarrining. If you don't post something of substance by tommorow, I am voting you.
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:56 pm

Having read the last few, increasingly confusing, pages, the theory that makes most sense to me is the one advanced by... was it LSU?

That Freezie knew about HBH being scum because he is scum too, and that he's settling a personal score. Whatever is going on between them (I didn't read the original fight), obviously left some bad blood.

Freezie's cop claim seems odd, even for a self admitted newbie. I'm a bigger newbie than Freezie, and I wouldn't have identified myself as a cop here.

If true, this suggests that Spinwizard is the real cop, and that Mandy is scum a well. This would explain why Mandy tries to refute Spinwizard's claim by supporting Freezie as a cop.

I don't believe yet that we have two cops, nor do I think that we have two doctors. Again, I'm a newb, but this seems unlikely to me.

So, I'm going to go with Spinwizard and

Vote Freezie
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Postby dwightschrute on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:15 pm

Koesen wrote:Having read the last few, increasingly confusing, pages, the theory that makes most sense to me is the one advanced by... was it LSU?

That Freezie knew about HBH being scum because he is scum too, and that he's settling a personal score. Whatever is going on between them (I didn't read the original fight), obviously left some bad blood.

Freezie's cop claim seems odd, even for a self admitted newbie. I'm a bigger newbie than Freezie, and I wouldn't have identified myself as a cop here.

If true, this suggests that Spinwizard is the real cop, and that Mandy is scum a well. This would explain why Mandy tries to refute Spinwizard's claim by supporting Freezie as a cop.

I don't believe yet that we have two cops, nor do I think that we have two doctors. Again, I'm a newb, but this seems unlikely to me.

So, I'm going to go with Spinwizard and

Vote Freezie
very nicely said, after reading that over as well as the last posts i am going to Vote Freezie
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:15 pm

The reason I believe this, is that it would explain HBH's dramatic suicide. If Freezie really were a cop, I think he would have defended himself differently. But quitting in disgust fits a betrayal by someone who should have been on the same side.

Anyway, I see Spinwizard didn't vote Freezie but Mandy. Since, according to this theory, they're both mafia, I will

Unvote Freezie
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:18 pm

dwightschrute wrote:
Koesen wrote:Having read the last few, increasingly confusing, pages, the theory that makes most sense to me is the one advanced by... was it LSU?

That Freezie knew about HBH being scum because he is scum too, and that he's settling a personal score. Whatever is going on between them (I didn't read the original fight), obviously left some bad blood.

Freezie's cop claim seems odd, even for a self admitted newbie. I'm a bigger newbie than Freezie, and I wouldn't have identified myself as a cop here.

If true, this suggests that Spinwizard is the real cop, and that Mandy is scum a well. This would explain why Mandy tries to refute Spinwizard's claim by supporting Freezie as a cop.

I don't believe yet that we have two cops, nor do I think that we have two doctors. Again, I'm a newb, but this seems unlikely to me.

So, I'm going to go with Spinwizard and

Vote Freezie
very nicely said, after reading that over as well as the last posts i am going to Vote Freezie


Hehehe, we were writing at the same time.

As I said, for now I am leaning to the belief that both Mandalorian and Freezie are scum, and I will be happy to vote for whichever one is closest to lynch.

I guess the advantage of taking out Mandalorian first, is that it would confirm or refute Spinwizard's claim.
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Postby dwightschrute on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:20 pm

Koesen wrote:
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Koesen wrote:Having read the last few, increasingly confusing, pages, the theory that makes most sense to me is the one advanced by... was it LSU?

That Freezie knew about HBH being scum because he is scum too, and that he's settling a personal score. Whatever is going on between them (I didn't read the original fight), obviously left some bad blood.

Freezie's cop claim seems odd, even for a self admitted newbie. I'm a bigger newbie than Freezie, and I wouldn't have identified myself as a cop here.

If true, this suggests that Spinwizard is the real cop, and that Mandy is scum a well. This would explain why Mandy tries to refute Spinwizard's claim by supporting Freezie as a cop.

I don't believe yet that we have two cops, nor do I think that we have two doctors. Again, I'm a newb, but this seems unlikely to me.

So, I'm going to go with Spinwizard and

Vote Freezie
very nicely said, after reading that over as well as the last posts i am going to Vote Freezie


Hehehe, we were writing at the same time.

As I said, for now I am leaning to the belief that both Mandalorian and Freezie are scum, and I will be happy to vote for whichever one is closest to lynch.

I guess the advantage of taking out Mandalorian first, is that it would confirm or refute Spinwizard's claim.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:21 pm

Koesen wrote:Having read the last few, increasingly confusing, pages, the theory that makes most sense to me is the one advanced by... was it LSU?

That Freezie knew about HBH being scum because he is scum too, and that he's settling a personal score. Whatever is going on between them (I didn't read the original fight), obviously left some bad blood.

Freezie's cop claim seems odd, even for a self admitted newbie. I'm a bigger newbie than Freezie, and I wouldn't have identified myself as a cop here.

If true, this suggests that Spinwizard is the real cop, and that Mandy is scum a well. This would explain why Mandy tries to refute Spinwizard's claim by supporting Freezie as a cop.

I don't believe yet that we have two cops, nor do I think that we have two doctors. Again, I'm a newb, but this seems unlikely to me.

So, I'm going to go with Spinwizard and

Vote Freezie


Pardon me for saying so, koesan, but your logic is totally flawed. If we are going to conduct an experiment to prove wherther or not spinwizard is a Cop (or, at least, wherther or not he is a sane Cop) the logical target for experimentation would be me. I have no power role, so if you think that finding out if spin and freezie are telling the truth and, if they do, wich one of them is sane is a way to go, then by all means we should lynch me rather then lynch a player who is most likely a sane Cop!

This being said vote Koesen for trying to lynch a player who not only claimed Cop, but has also succeeded in bagging scum on his first night (BTW, did it occur to anyone that Freezie targeted HBH for investigation because of their fight? Maybe he just lucked up! :roll: )
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:26 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Koesen wrote:Having read the last few, increasingly confusing, pages, the theory that makes most sense to me is the one advanced by... was it LSU?

That Freezie knew about HBH being scum because he is scum too, and that he's settling a personal score. Whatever is going on between them (I didn't read the original fight), obviously left some bad blood.

Freezie's cop claim seems odd, even for a self admitted newbie. I'm a bigger newbie than Freezie, and I wouldn't have identified myself as a cop here.

If true, this suggests that Spinwizard is the real cop, and that Mandy is scum a well. This would explain why Mandy tries to refute Spinwizard's claim by supporting Freezie as a cop.

I don't believe yet that we have two cops, nor do I think that we have two doctors. Again, I'm a newb, but this seems unlikely to me.

So, I'm going to go with Spinwizard and

Vote Freezie


Pardon me for saying so, koesan, but your logic is totally flawed. If we are going to conduct an experiment to prove wherther or not spinwizard is a Cop (or, at least, wherther or not he is a sane Cop) the logical target for experimentation would be me. I have no power role, so if you think that finding out if spin and freezie are telling the truth and, if they do, wich one of them is sane is a way to go, then by all means we should lynch me rather then lynch a player who is most likely a sane Cop!

This being said vote Koesen for trying to lynch a player who not only claimed Cop, but has also succeeded in bagging scum on his first night (BTW, did it occur to anyone that Freezie targeted HBH for investigation because of their fight? Maybe he just lucked up! :roll: )


Go back three posts from your own, and see who I was voting for already.

Given the length of your reply, it's possible you were writing it while the other posts appeared, so I won't accuse you of skimming, but your defense is obsolete.

Of course it's possible that I am wrong and that Freezie was lucky, but I still think the whole Freezie vs HBH thing exceedingly weird, and Freezie being a mafia traitor is the most logical explanation I can think of.

I may be wrong, but my logic certainly is not 'totally flawed'. I find your defense very unconvincing and I'm sticking to my vote for you.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:27 pm

FOS Dwight for jumping on the Cop's bandwagon. In fact, since Koesan has switched his vote to me (as he should have done in the first place, given his intention to find out if either freezie or spin are cops) I am going to
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:30 pm

FOS Koesan for fastposting me twice! :x :lol:

The part of your logic that I found to be totally flawed was voting Freezie instead of voting me. Now you fixed it and my vote has switched accordingly to the guy who would like to test theories by lynching Cops. :roll:
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:33 pm

I would fos you right back for misspelling my name three times, while getting it right in your vote, but since I'm voting for you already, you get off lightly :)

Your counterattack on Dwight sounds a little OMGUSIAGTSMWOOT to me.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:40 pm

Koesen wrote:I would fos you right back for misspelling my name three times, while getting it right in your vote, but since I'm voting for you already, you get off lightly :)

Your counterattack on Dwight sounds a little OMGUSIAGTSMWOOT to me.


Sorry for the misspeling, Kroasan. [size=0]Sorry Koesen, I couldn't resist it :)[/size]
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:46 pm

To quote Monty Python,

"Keep 'em laughing as you go!"

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Postby Fircoal on Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:30 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:2 mafia died while I was gone? :shock: Lol, I better go away for another two days and by the time I come back victory will wait for me, :D


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Postby Fircoal on Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:46 pm

I think that it's simple. Freezie is a sane cop, Spin is an insane cop.

Dwight and the other person coming in makes it odd. I think that one of them is mafia but I'm not sure which one of them it would be. I'm thinking more likely Dwight. :wink:
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:51 pm

I am beginning to doubt now.

Unvote Mandalorian

Would it make sense to ask Freezie and Spinwizard to investigate each other, or would that be a waste of two investigations?

I still don't understand why HBH reacted so extremely to Freezie's cop claim and accusation.
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:59 pm

Koesen wrote:I am beginning to doubt now.

Unvote Mandalorian

Would it make sense to ask Freezie and Spinwizard to investigate each other, or would that be a waste of two investigations?

I still don't understand why HBH reacted so extremely to Freezie's cop claim and accusation.


yes, I think it would.

Because HBH is a retard, who works on a different scale due to his stupidity. :D
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Postby dwightschrute on Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:02 pm

Fircoal wrote:I think that it's simple. Freezie is a sane cop, Spin is an insane cop.

Dwight and the other person coming in makes it odd. I think that one of them is mafia but I'm not sure which one of them it would be. I'm thinking more likely Dwight. :wink:
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:05 pm

Are all mafia games this weird, or did everybody but me get schizophrenic win conditions? :)

So if Freezie, Mandalorian and Spinwizards are all various shades of town, then who isn't?

I think I'm back to fossing the two late replacements slash joiners.
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Postby freezie on Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:15 pm

I know I am a sane cop. That I do.

I don't know about spin, so..

Vote: Mandy


For the two newcomers...I am too confused as to why they came...
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:25 pm

If you're the sane cop and Spin therefore is not (assuming we don't have two sane cops), why would you follow his lead?

Mandy brought this up already, but I thought I'd repeat it now that you are voting for him.

Could it be we have a mafia cop?

Complicated...

However, I do think your vote is odd.

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