naxus wrote:Joke voting someone is fine, but jokevoting someone to L-3 or L-4 is a little to far. Ive seen a couple games where joke voting allowed the mafia to speed hammer someone
If I put streaker at L-2 or L-1 I could see this being a valid argument. However, for three scum to out themselves for a quick day 1 lynch is stretching it quite a bit.
naxus wrote:Fircoal wrote:naxus wrote:Sigh, was just saying that ive seen it happen before. Didn't mean for a whole discussion to be based off of it
So you're saying discussion is a bad thing? Cause it sounds like you're upset about it.
Now don't twist my words fir. Discussion is great but day one discussion is usually useless cause it ends up a blind lynch anyway.
You offer a thought for conversation but when you get criticized for it you do a complete 180 trying to distance yourself from an unfavorable opinion. I stand by the fact that I made a joke vote. It made some people laugh which means mission accomplished. Day 1 lynches don't have to end in a blind lynch. People can garner a lot from the reaction to pressure. You seem want to prove that you're pro-town but stay out of the spotlight.
naxus wrote:Im not saying we shouldn't discuss day but that in 9/10s of all mafia games, the day one lynch is random. Only real good lynches happen off of a newbie slip up D1. And fir is screwing with me and its not funny
You must not be playing with good players then. A good player would use discussion and pressure to find scum. Not rely on power roles to do that for him. A D1 newbie lynch is seldom a good lynch. Newbs tend to make scum tells regardless of affiliation. Easy lynches come from newbies. Fir's "screwing" with you is one of the ways people build cases. Learn to handle it. Most of my case has been derived from your conversation with chu.
naxus wrote:I never said that it didn't affect late game, I just said the lynch is random. Trying to really build a case on the usual D1 stuff that happens is flimsy at best.
No you didn't but that's the consequence of a random D1 lynch if there's no pressure and no discussion. A good player can take D1 discussion and make a very solid case.
naxus wrote:Fircoal wrote:It doesn't really matter what this Day 1 lynch comes from as long as we can extract infos from it.
Thats what i'm saying.
That is not what you have been saying. What you've been saying is that D1 lynches are random unless a newb slips up. It's kind of sad if the person who's putting pressure on you the most has been able to state your argument before you could.
naxus wrote:Intent to lynch is building a case on someone with grounded suspicions and trying to get more people on the wagon behind you. Throwing a vote at someone because of one thing they did seemed scummy is different.
That doesn't even make sense. You are throwing a vote at me because I did something scummy but you aren't going to follow it up? This is why we have the FoS. It clearly marks the line between that looks suspicious and I want to lynch you.
naxus wrote:That and this is I think my first game with sheep(and maybe his first game? Havn't seen him around)
naxus wrote:Yes I have, been a little preoccupied with the wagon on me. And either way, still my first game with him and I dont know his playstyle
Do your research when you post. Skimming looks scummy and here you are admitting to it.
Shying away from discussion, a very early drive to prove that your pro-town, poor playing, skimming. There's several, non-random, reasons to lynch you. If people have been lynched from a bandwagon of joke votes then this should be plenty.
Vote NaxusYou haven't seen me before because I stopped playing for a few years. I played in 2007 (wow, time flies). A lot of the older players know me, they also know I'm a goofball.
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