HP: fight for freedom. Game over. Wizards won.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Tue May 08, 2012 6:13 am

Okay...lets get some night action results.

by **everywhere116** on Tue May 08, 2012 9:54 am

Agreed. I'm not sure what to do at this point.

Chap? Tail? Am I missing anybody?

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Tue May 08, 2012 11:32 am

I watched mcnumbers. Nobody visited him.

-Tails

by **Iron Butterfly** on Tue May 08, 2012 12:17 pm

I visited Everywhere. He is not Voldemort.

Both blockers are dead. The bus driver is dead. I cant think of anything but doc protection that would prevent him from being alive if he were Voldy.

We also have no night death. I suspect the doc protected the mafia NK (Duh)...

Mafia is in a tough spot if you ask me. There are probably two left. I think our best bet is to focus on Any or Bleed Green.

By Any I mean player Alt1978...lol I was confusing him with everywhere by thinking "anywhere"

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 08, 2012 12:29 pm

Well from my observation of the game, there's about 11 players left, 2-3 scum left.

claimed:

1. tailgunn3r-claim is solid. Appears innocent.
2. Chap-claim is solid.
3. Iron Butterfly-claim appears to be supported by context evidence.
4. Mc-claim is solid and supported.

Others (from most trusted to least trusted):

1. Everywhere-I've gotten MOSTLY town vibes.
2. Spiesr-same as everywhere. Mostly town vibes.
3. Alt1978-not active enough to get much of a read on.
4. Neb-Given me scum vibes since day 2 but can't directly link to scum.
5. Djfireside-not very active. Hasn't said too much of substance in a while.
6. Bleed-pretty much completely inactive. Slight scum vibes from before disappearance.

green-leaning town
orange-unsure
red-leaning scum.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Tue May 08, 2012 1:09 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:I visited Everywhere. He is not Voldemort.

Both blockers are dead. The bus driver is dead. I cant think of anything but doc protection that would prevent him from being alive if he were Voldy.

We also have no night death. I suspect the doc protected the mafia NK (Duh)...

Mafia is in a tough spot if you ask me. There are probably two left. I think our best bet is to focus on Any or Bleed Green.

By Any I mean player Alt1978...lol I was confusing him with everywhere by thinking "anywhere"

GARR....I hit edit I think instead of quote.

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 08, 2012 1:15 pm

I'd be fine with a Bleed Green lynch (Or really any of the three I have in red). I would like to hear from Chap before I pull any trigger (vote) though.

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 08, 2012 1:22 pm

actually looking back I'll move Neb to the unsure category. I had forgotten he was on BOTH the Dazza and Pancake Lynch.

strike wolf wrote:Well from my observation of the game, there's about 11 players left, 2-3 scum left.

claimed:

1. tailgunn3r-claim is solid. Appears innocent.
2. Chap-claim is solid.
3. Iron Butterfly-claim appears to be supported by context evidence.
4. Mc-claim is solid and supported.

Others (from most trusted to least trusted):

1. Everywhere-I've gotten MOSTLY town vibes.
2. Spiesr-same as everywhere. Mostly town vibes.
3. Alt1978-not active enough to get much of a read on.
4. Neb-Given me scum vibes since day 2 but can't directly link to scum.
5. Djfireside-not very active. Hasn't said too much of substance in a while.
6. Bleed-pretty much completely inactive. Slight scum vibes from before disappearance.

green-leaning town
orange-unsure
red-leaning scum.

by **spiesr** on Tue May 08, 2012 3:48 pm

Freezie, you might want to edit the title to clearly indicate day.

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Okay...lets get some night action results.

I have nothing of value to add in this department.

by **chapcrap** on Tue May 08, 2012 7:31 pm

I have nothing significant to add.

I agree with some of strike's list, but, in my estimation, there really isn't any confirmed town person. I do like Tails as town person. I'm more uncertain about IB and mc. I disagree about spiesr.

I would like to know what strike's night action is and what he's done every night. I feel like that would be helpful to town at this point.

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 08, 2012 8:18 pm

Well considering I can either significantly narrow down the list at this point or I'm useless anyways:

"You are Kingsley Shacklebolt ( Wizard auror )

You were always one of the most effective in the Auror department at the Minister for
Magic, and also a member of the Order of the pheonix. It is no wonder that Dumbledore
trusted you. Hearing the nearing war at Hogwarts, you rush bravely into the fight against
Voldemort himself."

Green part iwth quotation marks added. I am basically a cop. Whether I could be Naive though. I've only gotten innocent results thus far.

N1: Hippo. Hippo seemed like the bandwagon of the next day. I was kind of unsure of Hippo at the time. He seemed to be acting mostly like he had in the one game I had played with him prefviously but I wasn't sure if that was an actual town tell. I figured if he was likely going to be wagoned the next day anyways, I could investigate him and depending on the result encourage or dissuade the wagon. Never came about as the Jonty killed shifted suspicion onto Safari.

N2: Neb. I got an innocent result. I probably should consider him town at this point yes but I can't shake a scummy vibe from him.

N3: Spiesr. as much of a test action as anything. I felt Spiesr was likely town at the time but wanted to see if I was possibly insane (for the record, if he had come up guilty I would have lead a wagon).

N4: Neb. Like I said I've picked up serious scum vibes from him for a while and thought with the Mafia busdriver dead it might be worth a shot with no one better to investigate.

N5: Alt1978. Innocent. Pick an inactive night. It was him, bleed or DJfireside.

For the record, the possible results I was told I could get were:

Wizard, not a wizard (I was actually told non-wizard which is why I said that specifically when I was asked about your results. Thought it would be ambiguous enough no mafia would catch on but you or any other cop would recognize the wording) or Death Eater.

So yeah either I am naive or the list of unclaimed, non-investigated are:

1. Bleed Green (Honestly had forgotten he was in the game would have made a better N4 target)
2. DJfireside
3. Everywhere116.

Of course one of the investigated could also be investigation proof.

by **chapcrap** on Tue May 08, 2012 10:51 pm

With a busdriver and Voldemort out there being the Godfather, how much can we trust the results? That's what I'm wondering.

by **strike wolf** on Tue May 08, 2012 10:53 pm

chapcrap wrote:With a busdriver and Voldemort out there being the Godfather, how much can we trust the results? That's what I'm wondering.

Only one that would be questionable would be questionable because of the busdriver would be Spiesr.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Tue May 08, 2012 11:31 pm

chapcrap wrote:With a busdriver and Voldemort out there being the Godfather, how much can we trust the results? That's what I'm wondering.

Which means hunting for Voldemort could be a waste of time on my part? It would stand to reason he is bulletproof. *smacks forehead*

by **alt1978** on Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 am

In response to IB, I can't very well defend my lack of activity...but will try to remedy that to some extent by making a case against everywhere. I thought yesterday that everywhere would be a good place to start if pcm turned up mafia. He was all over the IB bandwagon pushing hard trying to make a quick start on day 5...only to fade away once the heat was on pcm. To me...if he were town...the heat would have been consistent. Everywhere has been sketchy for a little while in my book...if you believe tails and ib to be town...then everywhere is the most logical starting point. He was on tails the whole time once the lynch of IB fell through. Taking everything into consideration...that's where I think day 6 should start.
Bleed green is another good canidate. I would go along with pressure on him but everywhere seems to have more concrete evidence to point to.

Vote Everywhere

by **everywhere116** on Wed May 09, 2012 12:57 am

If I were town, I would have started from the point we left off the previous day, put pressure on my target, but still reconsider if new information was presented to implicate someone else and....oh....oh yeah right, that's exactly what I did.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Wed May 09, 2012 2:11 am

everywhere116 wrote:If I were town, I would have started from the point we left off the previous day, put pressure on my target, but still reconsider if new information was presented to implicate someone else and....oh....oh yeah right, that's exactly what I did.

I got Dazza and it still wasn't goof enough. I had already claimed so this wasn't pressure this was intent to lynch.

The night we lynched Dazza Hippo was acting completely crazy. By all appearances he was spoon feeding Dazza ideas to claim and info to use, which Dazza did. Each post Hippo made his story changed. "He had no useful information to give" to paraphrase....then"Oh yeah I forgot to mention I blocked Neb and IB" after the fact. That didn't register with you. All you could do is act like that proved I was lieing. "Lets bring the fight to IB" you said.

You ignored everything except the info that made me look guilty, which was the statement by Hippo that he blocked me night one. He was a blathering fool up to that point and yet you said nothing.

You then conveniently forget we just lynched a mafia busdriver that I found? I found Dazza AND his role offered an explanation of how Hippos block could miss me. Nope....you went right for the bandwagon to lynch.

Just saying

by **Djfireside** on Wed May 09, 2012 7:52 am

sorry I missed yesterday, hectic day all around. Wife carrying twins and thought she had a problem so personal kicked up. WIll post later today

by **Djfireside** on Wed May 09, 2012 8:39 am

I dont believe that I have been inactive in the game but since it kicked back in I was unfortunately away dealing with personal issues. Bleed has their personal issues but as I was fighting the last day if they are going to be out I want a claim out of them

Since it getting down to the grit I will claim as well to give more room to scum hunt

You are Ginny Weasley ( Wizard Future Auror )

Daughter of Arthur and Molly Weasley, and Harry Potter's girlfriend, you fear for his very life when
Lord Voldemort announces his intention to destroy Hogwarts brick by brick to seek him.
Even though your mother won't let you fight, you leaves your safety haven and prepares to fight
to save your loved one.

by **strike wolf** on Wed May 09, 2012 8:54 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:If I were town, I would have started from the point we left off the previous day, put pressure on my target, but still reconsider if new information was presented to implicate someone else and....oh....oh yeah right, that's exactly what I did.

I got Dazza and it still wasn't goof enough. I had already claimed so this wasn't pressure this was intent to lynch.

The night we lynched Dazza Hippo was acting completely crazy. By all appearances he was spoon feeding Dazza ideas to claim and info to use, which Dazza did. Each post Hippo made his story changed. "He had no useful information to give" to paraphrase....then"Oh yeah I forgot to mention I blocked Neb and IB" after the fact. That didn't register with you. All you could do is act like that proved I was lieing. "Lets bring the fight to IB" you said.

You ignored everything except the info that made me look guilty, which was the statement by Hippo that he blocked me night one. He was a blathering fool up to that point and yet you said nothing.

You then conveniently forget we just lynched a mafia busdriver that I found? I found Dazza AND his role offered an explanation of how Hippos block could miss me. Nope....you went right for the bandwagon to lynch.

Just saying

Actually the evidence that he had blocked you was fairly solid once Hippo did turn out to be the role blocker especially as the busdrive was most likely used to switch Harry away from protection. As well, Hippo's misunderstandings seemed in part due to not being fully up to date with the game (not very excusable. Shouldn't be hammering if you aren't completely aware of how it's playing out).

@DJfireside's claim: no abilities mentioned not sure if that's gonna be a problem. Name claim is relatively solid and flavor mostly fits. The future auror part is a bit odd but i can't remember how specific the epilogue of the 7th book was as far as what careers each went into (all I remember was that Harry became an auror).

by **Iron Butterfly** on Wed May 09, 2012 11:11 am

Hind sight is 20/20. He wanted me dead regardless of the information or lack of it.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 pm

I'm borrowing Strike Wolf's list here, and tweaking with my thoughts...
claimed:

1. tailgunn3r-Lily Potter claim is solid. Appears innocent. Watcher.
2. Chap-claim is solid. ???don't remember- JOAT
3. Iron Butterfly- Firenze claim appears to be supported by context evidence. Voldemort killer
4. Mc-claim - James Potter solid and supported. – double voter
5. Strike Wolf – Kingsley Shacklebolt - Cop
6. Djfireside – Ginney Weasley. ROLE – UNKNOWN…not sure how I feel about DJs character claim, with no role claim along with it.

Others (from most trusted to least trusted):

1. Alt1978-town all the way…cleared by Strike.
2. Neb-Plays like an idiot at times, but definitely town. Cleared by Strike, Twice.
3. Spiesr-He has played very close to the vest in this game. I can’t get any kind of read on him. I think Strike is clearing him, although he didn’t say. And if he Voldy, he might be investigate proof anyway…or possible bus drive.
4. Everywhere-He has been all over the board here. Driving at Iron, then siding with Pancake. Seems very scummy…but he’s not Voldemort.
5. Bleed-pretty much completely inactive…which is funny, since he led the charge on me for inactivity early on. I also get scum reads from him.

So, out of Everywhere, Spiesr and Bleed, I’m inclined to vote for one of them. I agree with Alt’s views, but I would actually like Everywhere, Bleed and Spiesr to give a vote and then the rest of us can decide. In my mind, we’ve narrowed the scum down to those three, so I don’t want to give them a chance to hammer…let’s have them vote first. The rest of us can decide who to go for after that.

I also don’t think we should go mass claim, like DJ. There are far too many characters available for scum to claim. Having everyone claim, just leaves an easy claim for the mafia in this case.

@Strike…sorry for being so scummy that you had to investigate me twice…but really, a little research in the thread would have done much better.

@Chap…what did you do last night? We need all the info we can get from our power roles…

I'd vote Bleed or Spiesr at this point.

by **strike wolf** on Wed May 09, 2012 12:54 pm

Like I said all my results have come back innocent. only non-claimed I haven't investigated are Bleed and Everywhere. I'd rather vote bleed than Everywhere. Spiesr has appeared town to me mostly and I got an innocent investigation result. I am not going to completely clear anyone as there's still the likely investigation proof godfather and the slim chance my character is Naive. Still deciding on DJ's claim but not willing to vote him for it:

vote bleed

by **Iron Butterfly** on Wed May 09, 2012 1:06 pm

Vote Bleed

hes been at the top of my list for some time. He only seems to post to apologize for not posting.

by **Djfireside** on Wed May 09, 2012 1:09 pm

I have been wondering about bleed most of the game just because they are not around which makes things a bit strange and even with them stating they will come make a post when the day starts, granted it was a few days ago, has not shown again and been wondering about them overall.

As for my role, essentially I am a VT. I supposedly can get powers if something occurs but that hasnt happened all game so I have nothing right now.

Vote Bleed

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