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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Falkomagno on Thu May 14, 2009 11:42 am

So, the one who block knows who is scum. but we have to protec him, since is pro-town and is so usefull. Why pmc try to reveal who is that pro-town, exposing him to a mafia night kill?
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu May 14, 2009 2:29 pm

Falkomagno wrote:So, the one who block knows who is scum. but we have to protec him, since is pro-town and is so usefull. Why pmc try to reveal who is that pro-town, exposing him to a mafia night kill?

Im tempted to vote you because your posts give me a headache. Each one is its own riddle.

Anyway, we dont seem to have any leads...

Oh well, get the ball rolling, vote falko
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Thezzaruz on Thu May 14, 2009 5:26 pm

Falkomagno wrote:So, the one who block knows who is scum. but we have to protec him, since is pro-town and is so usefull. Why pmc try to reveal who is that pro-town, exposing him to a mafia night kill?


Well he didn't try to reveal him today but rather in the future if he had gotten good evidence. Not bad idea tbh and your complaints about it warrants a FOS falko I think (but no more for now).
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby pmchugh on Thu May 14, 2009 6:22 pm

As soon as I give up on falko I get support, typical lol.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Simon Viavant on Thu May 14, 2009 6:47 pm

I still don't think falko is scum, just a good target to pin it on, so those voting for him are suspicious.

And with the sort of careful FOS that doesn't really put him in suspicion yet, which he basically did before in the thread (even if it wasn't an "official" FOS), where as most people tend to take the risk of putting someone at L-6. And trying the weak bandwagon on pmc and then switching to the weak bandwagon on falko.

I'm gonna say vote Thezzarus
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Suspect101 on Thu May 14, 2009 7:53 pm

Here is my take:

The only person that I know is town is PMC.

I would like to pressure Falko for his comments that PMC obviously did not mean, but the noob card has validity.

I am suspicious of Stroop for going after PMC so hard, but after playing a few games with him, I am pretty sure that is just the way he is because I have been on the other side of him before.

I would also like to pressure the lurker JND. He voted for someone else, but never un-voted, kept his vote on drench, then disappeared. This might have been done to look innocent, but I am not sure.

PMC I would like to follow your lead. Who do you think we should go after?
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby jnd94 on Thu May 14, 2009 8:16 pm

Sorry guys, but new people coming in, and the same arguements over (IMO) have stymied me alittle from making any real responses. I don't feel like the Night gave us anything new, although if we need some wood for teh fire I have a few things I have to say. They may not be of much importance and could harm my safety, but they might be worth something.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby jnd94 on Thu May 14, 2009 8:22 pm

Sorry guys, but new people coming in, and the same arguements over (IMO) have stymied me alittle from making any real responses. I don't feel like the Night gave us anything new, although if we need some wood for teh fire I have a few things I have to say. They may not be of much importance and could harm my safety, but they might be worth something.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Thezzaruz on Fri May 15, 2009 3:37 am

Simon Viavant wrote:I still don't think falko is scum, just a good target to pin it on, so those voting for him are suspicious.

And with the sort of careful FOS that doesn't really put him in suspicion yet


I'm not at all sure that falko is scum either hence why I explained where he got his reasoning wrong. The FOS got there mostly for future reference as the rookie card cannot be played indefinitely.


Simon Viavant wrote:And trying the weak bandwagon on pmc

I never bandwagoned pmc though.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri May 15, 2009 3:58 am

Falko is definitely looking like a complete noob although that last statement of his hints at scumminess. Falko why would you want a pro-town player to come out at this time and force the hand of the doc for protection. Thez is right in that the rookie card can't be played indefinitely and at some point a noob can and will actually be scum so the comments could be valid. I won't be voting yet on him, but he is close to the if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck then it is a duck bit if those types of comments keep up.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby pmchugh on Fri May 15, 2009 7:24 am

Suspect101 wrote:Here is my take:

The only person that I know is town is PMC.


How do you know that I am town? Not that I am complaining or anything.

suspect101 wrote:I would like to pressure Falko for his comments that PMC obviously did not mean, but the noob card has validity.

I am suspicious of Stroop for going after PMC so hard, but after playing a few games with him, I am pretty sure that is just the way he is because I have been on the other side of him before.


Yeah I have always played like that, since my first game where I went after SL continuosly for talking like a pirate (post restriction) and I concluded pirate=scum unsurprisingly I was wrong :lol: And I am sure stroop knows this, and I never seen any real reason behind his accusations. I just thought he was wrong but the more I think the more suspicious I think he is.

Suspect101 wrote:PMC I would like to follow your lead. Who do you think we should go after?


Enough pressure lol, I want to hear from stroop who is yet to post today and then I may make up my mind.

Oh and one last thing, just because you were saved by the governer doesn't neccesarily make you town.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Stroop on Fri May 15, 2009 7:35 am

pmchugh wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Here is my take:

The only person that I know is town is PMC.


How do you know that I am town? Not that I am complaining or anything.

Suspect often confuses knowing with thinking.

suspect101 wrote:I would like to pressure Falko for his comments that PMC obviously did not mean, but the noob card has validity.

I am suspicious of Stroop for going after PMC so hard, but after playing a few games with him, I am pretty sure that is just the way he is because I have been on the other side of him before.


Yeah I have always played like that, since my first game where I went after SL continuosly for talking like a pirate (post restriction) and I concluded pirate=scum unsurprisingly I was wrong :lol: And I am sure stroop knows this, and I never seen any real reason behind his accusations. I just thought he was wrong but the more I think the more suspicious I think he is.

Trying hard gets me somewhere, most of the time. By now, I'm pretty sure I won't get anything out of going after you (pmc), because there's nothing there. Unless you go and do scummy stuff, I'm pretty sure you're town as well.

I'm not sure how to proceed now. Without a lynch or a kill, I feel like we're back on square one. Only thing that's left is probably the Falko thing, but I'll need another look at that before I say anything about it.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Suspect101 on Fri May 15, 2009 9:09 am

pmchugh wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Here is my take:

The only person that I know is town is PMC.


How do you know that I am town? Not that I am complaining or anything.


I should not say know, I should say that I am pretty sure you are town.

pmchugh wrote:Oh and one last thing, just because you were saved by the governer doesn't neccesarily make you town.


I can provide solid proof that I am town, with little threat to myself I believe. My roll poses no real threat to the terrorists with out information of at least two terrorists. even knowing does not really enhance my powers. So I do not feel that by telling my role I will be put in danger. I think that the terrorists have bigger fish to fry and would waste a kill on me.

I am the town politician. I can buy a persons vote at night. So I am a double voter. I bought LSU's vote last night because he jumped around with his vote and I wanted stability.

also:

Suspect101 wrote:well there goes a townie. should have just lynched drench instead of having me replace him, didn't do any good. :lol:


I did post this before I knew I was saved. I have never played in a game with a governor nor knew of it's existance and had to pm the mod to ask him what was going on. I thought I was dead so there was no harm in revealing my alliance.

To prove this:

unvote vote SV This should count as two votes.

Simon Viavant wrote:I still don't think falko is scum, just a good target to pin it on, so those voting for him are suspicious.


The only person actually voting for falko is sam, yet you voted for Thezz because of a FOS? I do not think that a FOS is suspicious, especially when Falko has been doing some pretty scummy things even for a rookie.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Suspect101 on Fri May 15, 2009 9:20 am

Oh, and PMC was voting for Falko as well....


Can we get a vote count?
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Falkomagno on Fri May 15, 2009 9:47 am

Well, first of all, sorry if I was misundestood. now I realiced that the pmc post suggest that the one who is blocking scum revelea himself, at day 3, so we can use usefull info.

By now, and due the lack of further information, I'll vote for jnd

I vote for him because think that he's playing so passive, and, viewing his metagame, it's doesn't look logical. Besides, a passive game is scum, I think, since, if you are scum you don't want so much attention, it seems like he is lurking from the very beggining, with no so complicated explanations of his votes, and posting the least possible, another suspicios fact, since he is very active posterman.

btw...what do you say, samurai?
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby pmchugh on Fri May 15, 2009 10:33 am

Firstly, now i am now worried, most of my games end with me being NK'ed and since most people believe me to be town now I am a major target for tonight. Just thought I would point it out to warn scum, if it was a doc block last night it would be stupid to go after me tonight as you need a kill.

Secondly, I believe you suspect and I believe you to be town but politition is a role that can be scum. I haven't came across it too many times but I distinctly remember wicked being a scum polititian and can't remember any town politicians. LSU I take it you have seen it more often?
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri May 15, 2009 11:11 am

Politician is almost always a pro-town type role. At this point I don't see any reason to suspect it to be anything else although I do find it kind of suspicious that he would reveal himself at this time without any real need to. When I point out that I don't have a vote this day would confirm to all non noobs that we had a politician in the game, but now it semi-forces the doctors hand on who to protect this night.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby pmchugh on Fri May 15, 2009 12:32 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Politician is almost always a pro-town type role. At this point I don't see any reason to suspect it to be anything else although I do find it kind of suspicious that he would reveal himself at this time without any real need to. When I point out that I don't have a vote this day would confirm to all non noobs that we had a politician in the game, but now it semi-forces the doctors hand on who to protect this night.


I guess it was made scum just for wicked lol. In that case I 99% believe you suspect. The 1% being that you and LSU are scum.

You see I am now not sure who is scum but I think a great place to start is stroop. We need information and I think that he is a prime target and a good revealer of info.

Firstly he stayed quiet and when it appeared no-one would go for falko he tried to get me and very nearly succeded I am sure that if everyone had known that the lynch was about to come and was forced into a vote then I would have been lynched.

Then today nothing has changed from yesterday when he suspected me but now that he realises he has no support he quickly backtracks and is now going to go after falko of all people, who he was protecting at first. And says he is "pretty sure" I am town. That's one mighty change.

However i do have some reservations there, i don't think that scum would have been that vocal normally.

In all honesty my gut says that thez is scum. He has done a similar turn around to stroop but has tried to stay out of the spotlight more and he is good at doing so when scum. He tried to wait until he could blame his vote on the deadline but forgot to vote in time so I survived.

In summary:
Stroop and thez both accused me yesterday and protected falko.
Then today, both changed there opinioins completely and accused falko.
They could be scum buddies copying each other but I am not sure on that one.
Thez appears more scummy due to trying to stay out of the spotlight and not being frim in his accusations.

fos stroop, unvote vote thez
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Hologram on Fri May 15, 2009 12:39 pm

Vote Count, Day 2:

Falkomagno (1) – sam_levi_11
Thezzarus (1) – Simon Viavant
Simon Viavant (2) – Suspect101, LSU Tiger Josh
jnd94 (1) - Falkomagno

Not Voting (5): Stroop, pmchugh, Thezzarus, jnd94, Samuraipizzaguy
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Stroop on Fri May 15, 2009 1:07 pm

pmchugh wrote:Firstly he stayed quiet and when it appeared no-one would go for falko he tried to get me and very nearly succeded I am sure that if everyone had known that the lynch was about to come and was forced into a vote then I would have been lynched.

Then today nothing has changed from yesterday when he suspected me but now that he realises he has no support he quickly backtracks and is now going to go after falko of all people, who he was protecting at first. And says he is "pretty sure" I am town. That's one mighty change.

I was never convinced that you were scum. Just that you looked worse than Falko, or Suspect. That's why I pressured you and when the deadline came tried to get you lynched instead of one of them. Your reactions to my posts make me consider you fairly town now, but that might change again at some point.

Then today, both changed there opinioins completely and accused falko.

I did not accuse falko. I said that the Falko thing might be the only thing left from day 1 and that I would take another look at it.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri May 15, 2009 4:12 pm

Mod please let the record show that I did not have a vote on this and just list it as the politician's x2 vote instead of me.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby pmchugh on Fri May 15, 2009 6:53 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Mod please let the record show that I did not have a vote on this and just list it as the politician's x2 vote instead of me.


Lol getting all lawyer on us. But mod you did miss my vote on thez.

Stroop wrote:I did not accuse falko. I said that the Falko thing might be the only thing left from day 1 and that I would take another look at it.


I knew I should have waited, you were going to go after him if someone else had came out with a semi-decent reason against him. You wanted falko lynched but just didn't know how to go about it. You said the only thing left was the falko thing, yet you claim that you were not looking at him suspiciously? Your denying it only makes me more suspicious.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby nagerous on Sat May 16, 2009 3:51 am

Simon Viavant is on a 24 hour ban and can't post during this period.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Stroop on Sat May 16, 2009 4:32 am

pmchugh wrote:
Stroop wrote:I did not accuse falko. I said that the Falko thing might be the only thing left from day 1 and that I would take another look at it.


I knew I should have waited, you were going to go after him if someone else had came out with a semi-decent reason against him. You wanted falko lynched but just didn't know how to go about it. You said the only thing left was the falko thing, yet you claim that you were not looking at him suspiciously? Your denying it only makes me more suspicious.

I don't know if I was going to go after him. That would have depended on what I'd find while re-reading (which I haven't done). You seem to confuse the Falko thing with just Falko. Others were involved. You, me, Thezz and more. I was going to try and find someone that looked scummy, something that I overlooked before, something like what you found on Thezz.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 NO DEATHS

Postby Suspect101 on Sat May 16, 2009 8:28 am

I not sure why you think Thezz is mafia, I belive he is the least likely suspect to be mafia and that there are two or three others who look worse, if he turns up town, PMC should be the next to go.

vote Thezz

I believe this puts him at L-2 so we may want to wait and hear from him before we do anything else.

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