Sully's No Vanilla Mafia #2 [Endgame] *Scum/Cult Victor-y!*

[kernov]

At least he right about being confused.

[safariguy5]

I am not going to lie, I am more than a little confused, but that isn't unusual! I do agree that It doesn't look good for blake but they seem a little too keen to Lynch him, the arguments are very convincing which is what worries me.
I will also

vote HANK

worst... skimmer...ever

Its night.

And he forgot to bold.

[Valikil]

If, by skimming you mean actually reading everyones posts then yes...obviously

Didn't know how to bold

[Valikil]

vote HANK

that better safariguy5? you are such a tell-tale

[blakebowling]

dude. it is night time. go to sleep already

[Drabod]

If you read everyones posts sully says its night time?


Skimmer

[kernov]

lol at least he knows how to bold now but jeeeez Valikil read whats goin on.

[Valikil]

Oh get over it already

[Victor Sullivan]

Alright, silence, please.

[Victor Sullivan]

The remaining town members wake up to find three of their beloved gone...

kernov (Professional Busdriver), firth4eva (Annoyance), and Haggis_McMutton (Vanilla Townie?) are dead!

DAY 3 BEGIN!

With 10 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[blakebowling]

It appears that the mafia attempted to frame me by killing off haggis.

I've looked at this a few times, and the only logical thing I can see is that kwanton is a valuable part of the mafia, as all three of the dead were against him.

I've tried to find someone with motive to frame kwanton, but I don't see anything.

So, for now: Vote: kwanton

[DoomYoshi]

What is Annoyance? Is that like Jester? I can see where you are going with that blake. How did your investigations turn out last night?

[blakebowling]

What is Annoyance? Is that like Jester? I can see where you are going with that blake. How did your investigations turn out last night?

Actually, my investigative power is usable during the day, and I haven't used it yet today.
However, Day 1, I investigated Violet and got that she is a town-aligned Master Chef.

[safariguy5]

3 kills?? From 0 yesterday? Something doesn't add up. I investigated Hank, he has a post-it note with a smiley face on it. And icon has a shirt with glue from yesterday. I thought roleblocker for icon, but seeing as how haggis's real role is obscured, Hank could be a janitor. Which might explain the investigation from day 1. I'll let kwan defend himself first, but if he's a sane cop, then I'd much rather go for someone we know nothing about.

vote Valkil for submarining, then skimming, then posting during the night and being very defensive about it.

[DoomYoshi]

Haggis was not a Sun God though, why did he false claim? And how did he know the name of YOUR role blake? kwanton? Something suspicious is going on. I do not feel sure enough of the situation to vote kwanton. However, if others decide that it is the best option, I volunteer myself as the hammer since we now need lynches.

Val made an ass of himself last night, but I don't want to push a lynch on him as I think he needs some time to experience the fun of playing. I think he didn't realize what the rules were perhaps. I would rather push on Hank as I know he is not a new player exactly. What is a Janitor?

[safariguy5]

Haggis was not a Sun God though, why did he false claim? And how did he know the name of YOUR role blake? kwanton? Something suspicious is going on. I do not feel sure enough of the situation to vote kwanton. However, if others decide that it is the best option, I volunteer myself as the hammer since we now need lynches.

Val made an ass of himself last night, but I don't want to push a lynch on him as I think he needs some time to experience the fun of playing. I think he didn't realize what the rules were perhaps. I would rather push on Hank as I know he is not a new player exactly. What is a Janitor?

Janitor scubs your role so that when you die, nobody knows you're true role. I think he targeted haggis. It's obvious that in a non vanilla game, nobody would be a vanilla townie. I think Hank used his power to hide haggis's true role, and he may very well have been a sun god.

And if I may metagame a bit, janitor is not a common role, but I played it in Sully's 1st NV game, so it's obviously something he likes. Kind of like Fircoal and bus drivers.

[DoomYoshi]

Ok makes sense. Apparently Sully likes busdrivers too lol. It is a stretch to consider how the post-it with the smiley face means janitor, but if I can see past the hazy whiskey clouds, sure enough the sun shines through. We are unfortunately at an impasse with the Violet situation it seems. With the short days, and the length of time it takes to find a replacement perhaps we should lynch her. #1 It would make that situation easier. #2 we could test out how accurate blake's investigations are. If the janitor hypothesis is wrong, it could be that Sully was just covering blake's tracks to try to keep it challenging for the town to figure out roles. With Violet gone, we will finally have the ability to muster a lynch and quickly figure out the Sun God fiasco.

Also, why so many kills? Do I hear a vig or JOAT out there? It doesn't seem like any of them were lovers, as the characters aren't even really named.

[DoomYoshi]

It also occured to me that perhaps the janitor role is built into blake's investigations.
What's really weird is that haggis waited until day 2 to reveal a day 1 investigation (if he was indeed a Sun god and not some night investigator).

[blakebowling]

Either:
Hank (or someone else in the game) is a variation of the janitor that removes the targets role for the entire game, and not just if the target dies that night. eg, the role would have been removed BEFORE I investigated haggis (eg it would have been gone day 2).
OR
Haggis was poisoned N1, Hank cleaned up the body, and things just played out right so I investigated haggis and got vanilla townie.
OR
Haggis' role is hidden for some reason, meaning that if investigated or when killed it is not revealed. (This is the worst scenario for us, as we learn nothing).

I've sent a PM to sully investigating hank, so we may know something when that comes back (eg. if it is town, I could be naive OR sane, but if it is mafia, then I am sane (as I already had two town results).

EDIT after Fastposted:
There could be more deaths n2 and none n1 because of a poisoner, or there could be a role that has a choice between two powers.
I'd like to wait for a post back from violet before we lynch her. If she wishes to continue I think we should allow her to, but I agree it would be easier to lynch than force a replacement, and it would test the roles.
IF violet were willing to share a more information about her role (assuming my investigation of a Master Chef is correct). If it matches the description I got from sully, I'm sane. If not, she's mafia.
EDIT 2 after Fastposted:
If the janitor role was related to me, then wouldn't violet's role have been hidden as well? I recieved a complete description of the Master Chef.

[DoomYoshi]

EDIT 2 after Fastposted:
If the janitor role was related to me, then wouldn't violet's role have been hidden as well? I recieved a complete description of the Master Chef.

Ah yes, of course. Scratch that hypothesis.

[Valikil]

I decided to do a little investigating last night, I was in the Town hall when I heard a man greeted cordially, then some very strange noises, then gun shots. After that I heard a guy say "That guy sure as hell didn't pay me enough for this." he sang a pretty good tune, made some really strange noises! Wish I could have seen more, but I kinda fell asleep...well, it was late

Weren't 2 of the dead voting against you Blake? Haggis and Kernov

[00iCon]

^please don't quote PM's. that story sound awfully close to quoting a pm.

A janitor role seems possible but wasn't haggis investigated by someone, who got vanilla townie? blake said that, checking back. maybe something happens to haggis which triggers him receiving a role. Can anyone resurrect people in this game?

[00iCon]

or maybe haggis had a random role each night?

[00iCon]

I volunteer myself as the hammer since we now need lynches.

So, not willing to scumhunt and not caring about who dies, so long as they're dead? Sounds scummy.
vote: DoomYoshi
Talk of hammering should come much later, i.e. hours before lynch.

[DoomYoshi]

It's not that I don't care who dies. It's just that there is a case there but I don't think it's a very strong one (against kwanton). However, the only weapon we have is our lynches and now the mafia is getting lots of kills so we need to start getting answers. The only way we can get answers is by lynches or investigations. Since we don't even know how effective our investigators are, lynches are a way to figure that out.