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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 - Full speed ahead!

Postby Anarkistsdream on Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:52 pm

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Apologizes for disappearing for a few days, I had some unexpected post-christmas chaos... I've got a rough understanding of what has gone on and am mostly interested in the hotshot case. I looked at the above mentioned quotes and then over hotshot's posts and I quite agree that they are relatively lacking in substance and shows distancing from fircoal. So I will Vote Hotshot.. Someone asked me about why I didn't go after mitch last night if I thought him so scummy and it's because I figured I could get him lynched today since pretty much all of his posts are scummy and I wanted to go after other hunches during the night. I guess I was wrong to think that, partially because few people are willing to go after him and partially since hotshot's behavior is just as scummy.



So.... What "hunches" did you go after? More to the point, if you are a Wild Pokemon, what hunches could you have? Just attacking a random person????

Samlen wrote:I think that mitch AND hotshot posts are scummy. Apparently few people agree with me about mitch so I am no longer wasting time in an effort of futility.


That's convenient... To always think someone's posts are scummy because someone else suggested it...

Samlen wrote:Still unconvinced about the fircoal case so my vote is staying (plus I believe their roleclaim). Everything else is just people griping at each other over nonsensical stuff. I could unvote and and revote to "end the day quicker" but I see no point in lynching someone I do not believe is scum.


You believed a roleclaim even though others had already pointed out how that roleclaim could not be a character in the game?

However, I also saw some posts of yours that made you seem town. You really haven't flip-flopped THAT much on voting or trying to start or finish bandwagons... I just don't know...
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 - NIGHT 1 send your choice

Postby mandalorian2298 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:19 pm

Vote Count

Samlen (2) - Hotshot, Nagerous

BuJaber (1) - dakky

Mitch (1) - Exile

Exile (1) - DoomYoshi

legionnare (1) - Mitch

Hotshot (3) - BuJaber, Anark, Samlen


With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby kwanton on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:31 pm

Talapus wrote:Well, I was hoping my night action would shed light on what the hell happened last night but I'm still at a loss. Kwanton pretty much came out and claimed Bulbasaur as it sounds like that is what killed Skoffin but they were my target for attack as well I I gained experience so no idea how the heck that happened if some other pokemon with what sounds like whips finished her off...as everything I have searched online does not state that is a power I have...sooooo confused.


When multiple pokemon attack someone, they get experience divided between them. I'm assuming its up to Mandy which pokemon to use as the killer for the flavor posts and that it's arbitrary in terms of the actual game. He said the snake thing with night results is just for PMs and not for the actions themselves. So it sounds like night actions happen at the same time.

And I did not claim bulbasaur. Multiple people besides us could have attacked skoffin. Someone else already acknowledged that they caught the same slip that I did. We can just be sure that bulbasaur was one of the attackers.

BuJaber wrote:BTW - everybody keeps saying that mandy gave scum a sample wild pokemon role PM... when did he say that? Because I was under the impression that he gave them the wild pokemon WC not the entire PM.


mandalorian2298 wrote:It neither confirms nor denies it, since I have, as I have done in my previous game, made Mafia immune to PM quoters. Exile was officialy the last one of 26 players to learn VCs for Wild pokemon, which were, in Mafia PMs, attached bellow their own VCs, along with sample Wild Pokemon PMs.


Sounds like sample of the entire PM and not just WC
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby nagerous on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:56 pm

Nark - why on earth would you mention the fact that you had been targeted and have been weakened? That just paints a massive target on your back in the night phase for anyone - scum included looking to off you.

Mitch - you said your target died in the night. Would be interesting to know who you targeted...

Doom - I am finding your behaviour quite erratic this game and just in general at complete odds often with the way I have been thinking - I do not think you are a wild pokemon

DoomYoshi wrote:Bulbasaur has vine whip. All the internal evidence checks out.

vote exile

I'm really confused by this post/vote, can you please elaborate again for my sake, apologies if I missed something but if there is a case there I want it presented properly.

DoomYoshi wrote:I'm trying to figure out who Gary is. I really don't like how Skoffin flipped scum after playing identical to masket (apart from the whole "I'm a trainer" thing). Either Skoffin is a really good mafia player or the trainers are so close to scum as to be indistinguishable. nagerous is my first guess here. Skittles is TR? Unfortunately with another night of recruits, almost anyone can be TR now.


So you think I am gary? Why would I bother making a case against dakky highlighting his scummy behaviour (though I never bothered to actually vote at the time) on day 1 if I was gary? If you can't find the post, I am sure BuJaber has it saved down in his bookmarks ;-)

DoomYoshi wrote:Mewtwo would have been a suicidal claim anyway since there is no mention of Psychic pokemon. I wonder if he is treated as a pokemon or a trainer. Did he recruit Poliwag?

Where from the scene did you establish this?

If we are to take the scene literally, Masket tried to catch Messr. Polliwag,but was killed by a fire pokemon so the recruit was unsuccessful.

Aage the geodude then tried to attack the poliwag and caused damage but as a water type is resistant to ground type we can establish didn't kill the poliwag but geodude was killed by Serbia - charmander - who then walked into the water with the purple glow in his eye which the dominant theory which I am agreement is that was by a psychic type a mewtwo.

I am guessing the mewtwo may be a lone warrior/SK or is he working with team rocket. From the wiki I have read that he was a creation of team rocket but also escaped at some point destroying TR HQ in the same place so may be working alone. From the WP WC we know that team rocket only need to be beaten to win.

One other thing about the Mewtwo is that he is an unevolvable pokemon, so whoever was Mewtwo might have been more inclined to have believed Fircoal's Lapras claim which the more I think about it was a clear fake. Skittles, Samlen and Ragian are those that alive that made utterances that they believed a claim (as well as dead Masket and Skoffin) so this is worth noting for now when looking for Mewtwo.

Another way of hunting the Mewtwo would be to look at who Serbia p*ssed off. Strike Wolf made a number of utterances in regards to a case against Serbia and seemed suspicious of him, but I don't think he is necessary the type to just kill off his targets. There is also this comment but the case on Dakky seems to have lost some wind with all this Gary business despite his argument throughout day 2 trying to suggest that there is no psychic pokemon element in-game that killed Serbia (even throwing out mod kill as more likely):
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dakky21 wrote:So, Fircoal is on L-1, I wonder who will hammer... I surely won't, and if he flips town we're going to have some nice votes over there... and I already see reasons like "I did it just to end D1" ... yeah, right...


And if he does show to be scum, you've set yourself up nicely for Day 2.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Skittles! on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:10 pm

@Nag, the reason I believed Fircoal's claim at the time was for a few reasons. 1) Lapras is a well known Pokemon used by Ash, I think he even rides the Pokemon in the intro scenes. 2) I hadn't yet realised or made the connection with evolutions and all the wild Pokemon are the first iterations of their evolution line. 3) I had forgotten that Lapras featured more in Orange Islands than Indigo League. Hope that explains it succinctly.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Samlen on Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:36 pm

@Nag and @Nark I am willing to admit that I went after Masket last night. It was mostly for selfish reasons since I was much more certain that I would level up by attacking a trainer than attacking a random pokemon (Since pokemon get full dmg experience from a trainer +1 if the trainer is killed no matter what). But I also was uncertain on his alignment, so I figured taking a chance to kill a possible Team Rocket made it all the better. Now the flavor of the scene is confusing because I am not a fire type pokemon, so I"m assuming it's either just flavor or that a fire type pokemon also attacked Masket last night (which means said fire pokemon also leveled up)
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby strike wolf on Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:07 pm

Sorry I have not been as active today. 3 people in my area have been out sick and I've been absolutely swamped at work as a result.

So I'm gonna drop an fos on Talapus. I'm pretty sure he's claiming to be a wild pokemon but this is not the first time he has said something that makes me think he is actually a trainer. A bit more important when i consider thay he does not appear to be Gary. When I get my thoughts together more and look back into him, I will decide if he deserves a vote or not.

The Buj Case is a bit interesting. A simple pronoun usage slip up is one thing. However he not only adjusted himself to suggest he's part of the killing but isolated himself from the idea of lynching. However at its core it sounds a bit like the pronoun case on Nark from yesterday so I will not be voting him at this point.

I'll try to formulate better thoughts on Sam and Hotshot soon.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:08 am

Samlen wrote:@Nag and @Nark I am willing to admit that I went after Masket last night. It was mostly for selfish reasons since I was much more certain that I would level up by attacking a trainer than attacking a random pokemon (Since pokemon get full dmg experience from a trainer +1 if the trainer is killed no matter what). But I also was uncertain on his alignment, so I figured taking a chance to kill a possible Team Rocket made it all the better. Now the flavor of the scene is confusing because I am not a fire type pokemon, so I"m assuming it's either just flavor or that a fire type pokemon also attacked Masket last night (which means said fire pokemon also leveled up)


The scene is not confusing -- Serbia (Charmander) is the one in the scene who attacked Masket.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 - NIGHT 1 send your choice

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:28 am

nagerous wrote:Apologies again all it has been a busy few days but will have some more time now for playing :)

Samlen wrote:
nagerous wrote:
What did you believe about his roleclaim? As myself and then exile in the hammer pointed out it was suspicious that his claim was a rare strong pokemon that didn't evolve - it wasn't something that sat right with me and something that I feel stronger about even now. Every pokemon we've seen so far has been a starter one.


I thought leveling up and evolving were different things so I figured a pokemon without an evolution could pop up in this game. Given how fircoal and the night went, it looks like I was wrong to think that.


It does look like you are wrong, I am going to throw my hat in the ring here and vote samlen

Since then all I have seen is more pushing of the Mitch Lynch which I distrust anyone that was pushing this Lynch due to his comments showing clear signs of being a wild Pokemon and now it looks like as Dakky has said you are just bandwagoning on the new case du jour hotshot which is also an OMGUS case.

It would be interesting to hear you actually went after in the night seeing as you have you stated you didn't target Mitch because you thought you could get him lynched - something to me just seems off about these comments too.


I don't think this is fair. I didn't put together the idea that the wild pokemon all had to be pokemon that could evolve before it was mentioned by someone else. It hadn't even occurred to me to think that way, and I am a wild pokemon.

Unrelated -- I'm surprised that only legionnaire has brought up the flavor text about Wing in the scene. It clearly indicates that he was forced to attack someone, not of his own volition. Why aren't we talking about that? That introduces a mechanic that we need to be aware of (especially since we think Mewtwo was responsible for Serbia).
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby BuJaber on Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:02 am

I admit I forgot all about that Mets. Yeah it does seem that Wing attacked someone that was not his target. And the lying down to sleep could mean that he chose to defend for his night action. Either way, it doesn't really change anything. We still need to find and lynch TR. Wing could have been manipulated by TR or possibly mewtwo, though that would indicate that mewtwo has 2 night actions. Also I suppose could mean there's another 3rd party out there but that seems unlikely to me. Either way, as far as wild pokemon are concerned we only care about killing TR. If both TR and any 3rd parties along the way get killed, then trainers win with us and that's fine by me, but that's a win-win sort of situation that is probably very unlikely to happen considering how many potential night kills there are.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby BuJaber on Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:15 am

So samlen gave us an explanation as to why he didn't go after mitch during N1. That still leaves 7 (fircoal got lynched) people who voted for him, but mitch is alive and well. I find that rather strange.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Samlen on Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:20 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Samlen wrote:@Nag and @Nark I am willing to admit that I went after Masket last night. It was mostly for selfish reasons since I was much more certain that I would level up by attacking a trainer than attacking a random pokemon (Since pokemon get full dmg experience from a trainer +1 if the trainer is killed no matter what). But I also was uncertain on his alignment, so I figured taking a chance to kill a possible Team Rocket made it all the better. Now the flavor of the scene is confusing because I am not a fire type pokemon, so I"m assuming it's either just flavor or that a fire type pokemon also attacked Masket last night (which means said fire pokemon also leveled up)


The scene is not confusing -- Serbia (Charmander) is the one in the scene who attacked Masket.

Well herp a derp I mis-remembered and thought serbia had attacked someone else. Still is important to note since my type wasn't mentioned in the death scene, other deaths could be caused by multiple pokemon attacking the same target but only one of them being mentioned in the flavor scene.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby strike wolf on Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:49 am

It actually doesn't say charman Der specifically kiled Masket in the scene. Just that he died in a burst of flame. So it's still possible some fire type other than Serbia killed Masket.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby mandalorian2298 on Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:12 am

ANOTHER RULE HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE FIRST POST. IT CONCERNS LEVELING AND PERKS.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Ragian on Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:15 am

nagerous wrote:One other thing about the Mewtwo is that he is an unevolvable pokemon, so whoever was Mewtwo might have been more inclined to have believed Fircoal's Lapras claim which the more I think about it was a clear fake. Skittles, Samlen and Ragian are those that alive that made utterances that they believed a claim (as well as dead Masket and Skoffin) so this is worth noting for now when looking for Mewtwo.

I don't think I ever said I believed his claim because I know next to nothing about Pokemon. I think I've stated that a million times. I just didn't fint him scummy. I found you scummy. Now, not so much.

Metsfanmax wrote:Unrelated -- I'm surprised that only legionnaire has brought up the flavor text about Wing in the scene. It clearly indicates that he was forced to attack someone, not of his own volition. Why aren't we talking about that? That introduces a mechanic that we need to be aware of (especially since we think Mewtwo was responsible for Serbia).

So you're saying there's a role out there that can force wild pokemon to attack whoever? What should we do with that piece of information?

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Skittles! on Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:25 am

I'm just going to go ahead and vote Mitch. While I know the majority of you have moved on from this, I'm going to try and bring it back into the forefront.

Remembering the first day and looking over the past three pages of Day 1, Skoffin was very hesitant to vote either Fircoal or Mitch. With her and Fircoal both coming out scum, I think this is a tell.

Mitch has also been very willing to skim, misread, throw out misinformation, and generally accuse anyone who goes after him as scum. I don't know his play style but a number of you have already stated that it is a bit off from his normal games. His very obvious cockiness is also a sign of someone who is very confident in their gameplay, even though everyone else can just say that he has done literally nothing (during the talkative day stages at least) to contribute to the game.

I think it's just a safe bet to throw him under the bus right now, and I plead that all wild Pokemon to defend themselves during the night to limit the casualties just incase Mitch does turn up to be a wild Pokemon. I still don't think it will be much of a loss.

The discussion the past few pages hasn't really led to any one for town/WP to go after, because either mafia are using the holiday period to scummarine, or they are really good players.

I'm also going to FOS Dakky, Talapus, legionnaire, newguy. I think Dakky and Talapus are working together in some capacity, and I think the other two are playing pretty safe in a game where it's obvious that no one is safe with how many night abilities there are.

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby nagerous on Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:04 am

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Samlen wrote:@Nag and @Nark I am willing to admit that I went after Masket last night. It was mostly for selfish reasons since I was much more certain that I would level up by attacking a trainer than attacking a random pokemon (Since pokemon get full dmg experience from a trainer +1 if the trainer is killed no matter what). But I also was uncertain on his alignment, so I figured taking a chance to kill a possible Team Rocket made it all the better. Now the flavor of the scene is confusing because I am not a fire type pokemon, so I"m assuming it's either just flavor or that a fire type pokemon also attacked Masket last night (which means said fire pokemon also leveled up)


The scene is not confusing -- Serbia (Charmander) is the one in the scene who attacked Masket.



Both Masket and Aage are killed by fire. Poliwag thanks Charmander for saving him, but aage was beating on him and Masket tried to catch him so it can be inferred that Serbia killed one of these, I don't think it is in fact clear.

In the interest of fairness, this isn't the first time, a claim has been made that someone killed someone with elements in the scene kill being associated to a potential another character - as we saw with Kwanton claiming to have killed Skoffin but not with bulbasaur vine whips - though in each case this may be type disassociation to not paint target on back.

Skittles! wrote:Well with that role claim, I really don't think you should vote Fircoal out. I trust MM and the deal he's proposing to the Chu, and honestly Nark and Wing have just admitted they wanted to vote Fircoal out because of their own amusement and laziness.

If you don't trust other people in the game, why don't you go after them? With Fircoal's claim, a grass Pokemon can easily go after him now, so no point wasting a lynch on him. I'd prefer someone who contributed to the game and is a wild Pokemon rather than someone who doesn't contribute to the game and is a wild Pokemon. Moving on from that, I suggest we look closely at the following: Talapus, Serbia, Hotshot, Dakky.

Now that we also have a week until day 1 finishes, I think that's plenty of time to loo at some quick scum tells and to create an argument to vote someone way more suss out.

I'm going to unvote Mitch just in case a lot of people jump to him.


Skittles you mentioned here you were going to look closely at some other cases but you seem to be back on Mitch again. What were your thoughts on hotshot? This is the last time you mentioned him . Also, what about what I posted on Samlen?
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby legionnare on Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:07 am

nagerous wrote:Both Masket and Aage are killed by fire. Poliwag thanks Charmander for saving him, but aage was beating on him and Masket tried to catch him so it can be inferred that Serbia killed one of these, I don't think it is in fact clear.

Where does it say that Masket tried to catch Poliwag? Ash's Pikachu was fighting a type that he was weak against, so either grass or ground, whereas Poliwag is water type which Pikachu would be strong against.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby nagerous on Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:08 am

Skittles! wrote:I'm just going to go ahead and vote Mitch. While I know the majority of you have moved on from this, I'm going to try and bring it back into the forefront.

Remembering the first day and looking over the past three pages of Day 1, Skoffin was very hesitant to vote either Fircoal or Mitch. With her and Fircoal both coming out scum, I think this is a tell.

Mitch has also been very willing to skim, misread, throw out misinformation, and generally accuse anyone who goes after him as scum. I don't know his play style but a number of you have already stated that it is a bit off from his normal games. His very obvious cockiness is also a sign of someone who is very confident in their gameplay, even though everyone else can just say that he has done literally nothing (during the talkative day stages at least) to contribute to the game.

I think it's just a safe bet to throw him under the bus right now, and I plead that all wild Pokemon to defend themselves during the night to limit the casualties just incase Mitch does turn up to be a wild Pokemon. I still don't think it will be much of a loss.

The discussion the past few pages hasn't really led to any one for town/WP to go after, because either mafia are using the holiday period to scummarine, or they are really good players.

I'm also going to FOS Dakky, Talapus, legionnaire, newguy. I think Dakky and Talapus are working together in some capacity, and I think the other two are playing pretty safe in a game where it's obvious that no one is safe with how many night abilities there are.

FP'd by the mod and ragian.


True skoffin didn't seem keen to vote mitch - but she didn't seem hesitant to me, here she said mitch was her second choice at the time. Why she didn't vote mitch to try and save fircoal is the only questionable element:

Skoffin wrote:Still not getting the case on Masket, and the fact that so many people are willing to go for such a flimsy case tells me there are sketchy people on that wagon already. At worst Masket 'slipped' that he is a trainer; I don't think he is some idiot scum that purposely slipped that he is a trainer in hopes that people would be convinced he was a townie that dropped his role. I do, however, think he is a dumb townie that didn't realise his wording revealed what role he might have. Anyone on this lynch is either scum hoping to coast through the day before they take too much notice, or they have some win condition that involves taking out trainers.

Of those voting for Masket right now, the most suspicious to me are Tal and Mitch. I've already stated why on Mitch, and he is still posting many words that say little to nothing. Tal gets some suspicion for his post on Masket that I responded to before. Tal is a good player, and his argument on masket was pretty weak and read a lot into Masket that Masket didn't say. I don't know how he managed to twist what Masket said so far, and since mitch has enough pressure for the moment
unvote vote Talapus

I'll throw legion and hotshot on the list for now too, for previously stated reasons.

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby nagerous on Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:09 am

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Skittles! wrote:I'm just going to go ahead and vote Mitch. While I know the majority of you have moved on from this, I'm going to try and bring it back into the forefront.

Remembering the first day and looking over the past three pages of Day 1, Skoffin was very hesitant to vote either Fircoal or Mitch. With her and Fircoal both coming out scum, I think this is a tell.

Mitch has also been very willing to skim, misread, throw out misinformation, and generally accuse anyone who goes after him as scum. I don't know his play style but a number of you have already stated that it is a bit off from his normal games. His very obvious cockiness is also a sign of someone who is very confident in their gameplay, even though everyone else can just say that he has done literally nothing (during the talkative day stages at least) to contribute to the game.

I think it's just a safe bet to throw him under the bus right now, and I plead that all wild Pokemon to defend themselves during the night to limit the casualties just incase Mitch does turn up to be a wild Pokemon. I still don't think it will be much of a loss.

The discussion the past few pages hasn't really led to any one for town/WP to go after, because either mafia are using the holiday period to scummarine, or they are really good players.

I'm also going to FOS Dakky, Talapus, legionnaire, newguy. I think Dakky and Talapus are working together in some capacity, and I think the other two are playing pretty safe in a game where it's obvious that no one is safe with how many night abilities there are.

FP'd by the mod and ragian.


True skoffin didn't vote mitch - but she didn't seem hesitant to me, here she said mitch was her second choice at the time. Why she didn't vote mitch to try and save fircoal is the only questionable element. Also, Fircoal the other scum buddy pushed a mitch lynch which is why I don't think he is the best target, unless fircoal was simply acting selfishly and in spite of mitch - who voted him...

Skoffin wrote:Still not getting the case on Masket, and the fact that so many people are willing to go for such a flimsy case tells me there are sketchy people on that wagon already. At worst Masket 'slipped' that he is a trainer; I don't think he is some idiot scum that purposely slipped that he is a trainer in hopes that people would be convinced he was a townie that dropped his role. I do, however, think he is a dumb townie that didn't realise his wording revealed what role he might have. Anyone on this lynch is either scum hoping to coast through the day before they take too much notice, or they have some win condition that involves taking out trainers.

Of those voting for Masket right now, the most suspicious to me are Tal and Mitch. I've already stated why on Mitch, and he is still posting many words that say little to nothing. Tal gets some suspicion for his post on Masket that I responded to before. Tal is a good player, and his argument on masket was pretty weak and read a lot into Masket that Masket didn't say. I don't know how he managed to twist what Masket said so far, and since mitch has enough pressure for the moment
unvote vote Talapus

I'll throw legion and hotshot on the list for now too, for previously stated reasons.

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I don't know, I might have been? I don't remember all the games I was in.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby nagerous on Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:10 am

legionnare wrote:
nagerous wrote:Both Masket and Aage are killed by fire. Poliwag thanks Charmander for saving him, but aage was beating on him and Masket tried to catch him so it can be inferred that Serbia killed one of these, I don't think it is in fact clear.

Where does it say that Masket tried to catch Poliwag? Ash's Pikachu was fighting a type that he was weak against, so either grass or ground, whereas Poliwag is water type which Pikachu would be strong against.


“You have to go, boy?”, commented Masket. “No problem, take your time. Say, what's that noise?”

The source of the noise, as it turned out, was Aage's powerful fists connecting with another pokemon's head.

“Oh boy, a Poliwag! And it's weakened! This is going to be easy!”, cried Masket with glee, as he took out a pokeball from his pack. “GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL!!!”

“Catch this!” - and a jet of flame washed over Masket, burning him to cinder.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby kwanton on Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:05 am

nagerous wrote:In the interest of fairness, this isn't the first time, a claim has been made that someone killed someone with elements in the scene kill being associated to a potential another character - as we saw with Kwanton claiming to have killed Skoffin but not with bulbasaur vine whips - though in each case this may be type disassociation to not paint target on back


Or maybe I am Bulbasaur. I did say one way or the other.

Fire types can feel free to attack me if they think that I am tho :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby kwanton on Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:05 am

EBWOP.

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 - NIGHT 1 send your choice

Postby strike wolf on Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:44 pm

Apologies if this gets messed up. I wrote most of it while at lunch and don't have time to edit.

First of all, forget my tal FOS. I would say I had an epiphany aboUT him but it was more like an "Oh Duh" moment.

Second, Ragian's day 2 behavior:

Ragian wrote:
nagerous wrote:There is still a few other players who look pretty suspicious but I will need to have a re-read of how the lynches played out before making any firm accusations, either way I have to say the way that Ragian tried desperately to deflect attention away from fircoal who was L-1 with a humongous post on me has to be viewed as pretty suspect.

Some of that's true. The correct way of stating it, however, would be to say that I didn't like either - EITHER - of the cases and then laid out what I thought was the best case. Obviously, I've had a change of heart with regards to you, Nag. You live and you learn. Don't think I'm too inexperienced to not sacrifice a scummate when it's inevitable that he or she is going down. Had I wanted to "save" Fircoal, I'd have voted for Mitch.

That said, I understand that you'd look to me.

Also, Merry Christmas to those who are into that. I'm expecting somewhat of a drop in postings the next few days. (In Denmark, we celebrate on the evening of the 24th so tomorrow I'm probably not too productive.)


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HotShot53 wrote:After getting home from vacation late sunday, I was planning to read through and come to a conclusion after work monday... but the day ended before then. Thankfully everyone made the right decision and got the scum. Along with another scum dead last night, things are looking good so far.

I still think the bandwagon on mitch had scum on it trying to get the easy lynch... and samlen posting that he's willing to try to lynch mitch again seems very scummy to me so I will vote samlen

So why Samlen over Doom?

...and no Merry Christmas back? Screw you guys :P


Ragian wrote:I agree that Legion and Samlen don't look too townish at the moment. I'm less bothered with Doom. Nice breakdown, BuJ.


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BuJaber wrote:
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new guy1 wrote:Just makes me wonder if the trainers are on the same side as the WP.


They are, with one change... if WP's are recruited, then some more win conditions apply. WP's can win on their own just by eliminating TR, while in team with a trainer, they need to beat Ash and his pokemon (beaten), TR. and a mystery pokemon, probably Mewtwo. Of course, don't forget that TEAM R also has trainers.

I think Yoshi isn't what he says he is (or/and did he say what he is?) and I'll have a full case tomorrow.



Yoshi/Ragian/New guy -- Please comment on this post.. Is that WC believable?

Here I come a day too late. Sorry about that...

I reckon yes. Why? Do you not believe it? I've played other games where people's wincons change. Sorry I didn't have as long a response as newguy :D It said "if" a lot. I didn't get any wiser...

Nark posted. Long post. Some skimming. Never realised dakky had already spilled the beans about Gary, never saw that Aage dies, never saw that I asked the exact same question about hotshot's vote on Samlen instead of Doom. He did say that he finds me either to be town or ballsy, though, so I'm bought.

@Legion, why are you voting Mitch? If you were to break it down into a sentence or two?

At the moment


Not so much directly defensive but not really adding much. His comment on Nark is pretty much breaking down the post without stating much of a conclusion. I shouldn't be surprised. To this point, neither he nor I have come to much of a conclusion on anyone.

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Ragian wrote:@Legion, why are you voting Mitch? If you were to break it down into a sentence or two?

@Ragian, below are 3 quotes that generally outline my reason for voting Mitch. First two are from D1 third is from D2.
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TL:DR = Early fishing attempt + bandwagoning + possible slip from him suggesting he got a response email about his night action before the mod came out and said that only those who had results that would affect day would get an email.

Cheers. Was just wondering if something had escaped me. I still don't feel for the mitch case...

And if you don't get the flavour bit about Tim, perhaps ask dakky. If what he says about his experience points indicating that others hit his target too is real, it seems only logical to deduce that dakky attacked Tim. How do you plead, dakky?


So what does dakky attacking Tim have to do with Dakky being town(ish since there are no pure towns) or scummy? Without context it looks like you are commenting on it to look like you are scum hunting. Something I could say you did with your Hotshot question and Nark analysis as well.

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dakky21 wrote:@ Ragian ... No, I did not target Tim.

So you hit someone else that was also targetted by others?

I'm interested in Samlen's vote on hotshot. What did Samlen do D1? He was on Mitch, right? Still is (but has changed to hotshot as his case on mitch gets no traction). When people say that hotshot distanced himself from fircoal, how do they think he went about that? What is it that I'm not seeing?



I'm not sure. It's difficult to see what you actually are seeing when you haven't really taken a hard stance on anyone.

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nagerous wrote:One other thing about the Mewtwo is that he is an unevolvable pokemon, so whoever was Mewtwo might have been more inclined to have believed Fircoal's Lapras claim which the more I think about it was a clear fake. Skittles, Samlen and Ragian are those that alive that made utterances that they believed a claim (as well as dead Masket and Skoffin) so this is worth noting for now when looking for Mewtwo.

I don't think I ever said I believed his claim because I know next to nothing about Pokemon. I think I've stated that a million times. I just didn't fint him scummy. I found you scummy. Now, not so much.


Defensive.

Metsfanmax wrote:Unrelated -- I'm surprised that only legionnaire has brought up the flavor text about Wing in the scene. It clearly indicates that he was forced to attack someone, not of his own volition. Why aren't we talking about that? That introduces a mechanic that we need to be aware of (especially since we think Mewtwo was responsible for Serbia).

So you're saying there's a role out there that can force wild pokemon to attack whoever? What should we do with that piece of information?

FP'ed by the mod :roll:[/quote]

So what do you take from Mets question?

1. Defensive: responding in defense to everything said about him (sometimes full paragraphs) despite not even being FOSed. Alone this is minor but...

2. Most of what hasn't been defensive today has been awfully fluffy. He hasnt taken a hard stance on anything today and some of what he posted seems to be presenting suggested facts without pushing why these might be scummy or townish behavior.

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby strike wolf on Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:45 pm

Sorry. Meant to put that in spoilers.
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