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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby SoN!c on Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:45 am

Ragian wrote:
SoN!c wrote:I think Traffic is town guys, he is softclaiming it and the entire game his role playing fits Carpeted Man (if that is what he did, role playing):

"A man who lives for superheroism, he is very self-doubtful and unconfident, claiming that he is nothing without his suit."

I'm going to repeat the same fact that Degaston provided scum with fake claims. Traffic hinting that he's that carpet dude (and then Sonic doing Traffic's work for him :roll:) proves nothing.


It proofs a lot. But to catch crab you gotta give the trap pots enough soak time..

What i just can't understand is why would you give away your only power. You have no powers except a defense booby-trap mechanism if scum visits you (if your town) and then you tell exactly that in public???

"Visit me and you will get a static bang"

C'mon this makes no sense at all.

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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby degaston on Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:57 am

Vote Count:
    General Bax : 3 (Charle, *Pixar*, traffic133)
    swang918 : 1 (General Bax)
    traffic133 : 3 (strike wolf, Ragian, SoN!c)

    No Vote : 4 (Darin44, PepeAtila, swang918, TrafalgarLaw01)
11 Alive, 6 votes needed to lynch
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby Ragian on Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:03 pm

Nope, it proves nothing, but at least you're voting alongside me now.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby PepeAtila on Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:21 pm

"Vote Count:"
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It would be very interesting a 'scums list' I guess there are 3-4 of 11, let say 4.
My list is from more or less(didn't count) list of activitie lately:

Darin, Bax, traffic, Charle, swang, Pixar, TrafalgarLaw, strike, Ragian, Pepe, Sonic.

watching the eleven names everyboy is telling Ragian, Pepe and Pixar (citizens)
sorry I don't expand this list just to explain what I mean:
if we believe this we get a 50% of scums and some 3P in:
Darin, Bax, traffic, Charle, swang, TrafalgarLaw, strike, Sonic.
how many citizens?

Because of my language I can lose some clues, so please confirm if I misread something.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby PepeAtila on Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:28 pm

vote Bax (to L-2) so he should already claim.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby strike wolf on Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:55 pm

Im kind of frustrated right now about real life things (Car wreck, injuries from wreck, work, etc) and as much as I'd love to take the frustration out in a meaningless back and forth with Son!c, that's probably not going to help town. I'm town, he's probably not scum and I don't think I'm going to say anything that'll actually convince him that he's wrong. He'll either continue to claim that I've fallen into some supposed trap and say I'm scum or just randomly change his mind based on a whim that he'll try to play off as a 4-D chess move. So frankly, at least for now, I'm going to say, I think he's right for suspecting Traffic, I think he's wrong for buying Swangs name claim so easily and just say go through the actual record on who I've been right about and who I've been wrong about and not some BS supposed trap. If 5 people here can go through that and still say I'm scummy enough to vote then I'll hammer myself.

Now that I've vented a bit, as it stands:

Claims in no particular oeder:

1. Pix-4-legged man-tracker. N1-strike visited Son!c. Confirmed by me N2-Rag (no result;roleblocked) confirmed by my visit N3-Swang went nowhere confirmed by me visiting Swang. EW visited Swang
2. Charle-(name)-flavor cop. N1-Na. N2-Pix (footprints). Confirmed by Pix's later claim of Four-Legged Man N3-Swang-Red Tape.
3. Ragian-Tick
4. Trafalgar-Crusading Chameleon-Absorber. No confirmation but successful Counterclaim of DDS.
5. Pepe-(name)-Vigilante n1-NA. N2-Loose. Confirmed from night scene. N3-NA
6. Traffic-Carpeted Man-claims no one's visited. Passive ability.
7. Swang-Mayor Blank
8. Son!c-Die Fledermaus. Likely innocent result from EW on N2.
9. Strike-The Doorman-Roleblocker N1-Son!c confirmed by Pix. N2-Pix confirmed through Pix getting no result. N3-Swang. Supported by Pix seeing him go nowhere
10. Bax-unclaimed
11. Darin-unclaimed

Special mention to EW who we cant confirmed actions and results but:

N1-Visited someone. Pix? Innocent result seems to be the result either way. N2-Appears to have visited Son!c and received an innocent result. N3-Tracked to Swangs. No result known.

Did I miss anything?

I'd still like to hear fuller claims from a few of the claimed but Bax and Darin should be the first on the list to explain more fully. Bax first.

I'll try to write something more constructive on the analytical front soon.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby SoN!c on Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:59 am

strike wolf wrote:Im kind of frustrated right now about real life things (Car wreck, injuries from wreck, work, etc) and as much as I'd love to take the frustration out in a meaningless back and forth with Son!c, that's probably not going to help town. I'm town, he's probably not scum and I don't think I'm going to say anything that'll actually convince him that he's wrong. He'll either continue to claim that I've fallen into some supposed trap and say I'm scum or just randomly change his mind based on a whim that he'll try to play off as a 4-D chess move. So frankly, at least for now, I'm going to say, I think he's right for suspecting Traffic, I think he's wrong for buying Swangs name claim so easily and just say go through the actual record on who I've been right about and who I've been wrong about and not some BS supposed trap. If 5 people here can go through that and still say I'm scummy enough to vote then I'll hammer myself.

Now that I've vented a bit, as it stands:

Claims in no particular oeder:

1. Pix-4-legged man-tracker. N1-strike visited Son!c. Confirmed by me N2-Rag (no result;roleblocked) confirmed by my visit N3-Swang went nowhere confirmed by me visiting Swang. EW visited Swang
2. Charle-(name)-flavor cop. N1-Na. N2-Pix (footprints). Confirmed by Pix's later claim of Four-Legged Man N3-Swang-Red Tape.
3. Ragian-Tick
4. Trafalgar-Crusading Chameleon-Absorber. No confirmation but successful Counterclaim of DDS.
5. Pepe-(name)-Vigilante n1-NA. N2-Loose. Confirmed from night scene. N3-NA
6. Traffic-Carpeted Man-claims no one's visited. Passive ability.
7. Swang-Mayor Blank
8. Son!c-Die Fledermaus. Likely innocent result from EW on N2.
9. Strike-The Doorman-Roleblocker N1-Son!c confirmed by Pix. N2-Pix confirmed through Pix getting no result. N3-Swang. Supported by Pix seeing him go nowhere
10. Bax-unclaimed
11. Darin-unclaimed

Special mention to EW who we cant confirmed actions and results but:

N1-Visited someone. Pix? Innocent result seems to be the result either way. N2-Appears to have visited Son!c and received an innocent result. N3-Tracked to Swangs. No result known.

Did I miss anything?

I'd still like to hear fuller claims from a few of the claimed but Bax and Darin should be the first on the list to explain more fully. Bax first.

I'll try to write something more constructive on the analytical front soon.


I understand you need to vent but i said in all posts yesterday i layed out a trap (Crab pot trap, booby-trap..). And it takes time for a trap to work. Im not continuing to go for you.

The goal of D4 was getting info out of :

1) BAX
2) Swang
3) Traffic
4) Darin

We got that from 2 out of 4:

Traffic: very scummy defense because he gave away his "booby-trap" ability. The "static bang" generated from Carpeted Man's suit should someone visit him during the night. If so i would think this ability would only apply for scum and 3p. But that is not what he said and again, if that is your power you should want scum visiting you and you should have played an total different strategy from the beginning.

For those reasons i believe Carpeted Man is a false claim. Very strongly.

Swang: Said he was the Mayor but did not comment on the 3p conclusion of the Red Tape, and posted later on totaly ignoring the 3p subject. So he is not town.
The question is: Is he 3p or is he scum that likes us to believe he is 3p?

For those reasons I suspect Swang is either 3p or Scum.

BAX: nothing, no claim not even L-2 and even L-1 (he was on 5 votes when 6 votes were needed to lynch). We said we were gonna do something about BAX on friday but it's saturday already.. tick tok.

Darin: he prefers to not claim either?

@Pepe: ask Ragian or Pixar first but you should target one of those 4: Bax - Traffic - Swang - Darin
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby SoN!c on Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:09 am

PepeAtila wrote:
"Vote Count:"
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It would be very interesting a 'scums list' I guess there are 3-4 of 11, let say 4.
My list is from more or less(didn't count) list of activitie lately:

Darin, Bax, traffic, Charle, swang, Pixar, TrafalgarLaw, strike, Ragian, Pepe, Sonic.

watching the eleven names everyboy is telling Ragian, Pepe and Pixar (citizens)
sorry I don't expand this list just to explain what I mean:
if we believe this we get a 50% of scums and some 3P in:
Darin, Bax, traffic, Charle, swang, TrafalgarLaw, strike, Sonic.
how many citizens?

Because of my language I can lose some clues, so please confirm if I misread something.


Charle is town, his flavor smelling ability is genuine.

Hit list:
1) Traffic false claim
2) Bax totaly silent now he needs to claim but active enough before
3) Swang (3p or scum)
4) Darin ?
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby General Bax on Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:36 am

Sorry guys won't be available for the next couple of days due to obvious reasons
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby SoN!c on Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:50 am

General Bax wrote:Sorry guys won't be available for the next couple of days due to obvious reasons


That you need to claim.. well that's saying enough
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby SoN!c on Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:03 am

So here we have it:

1) Traffic: false claim - has to be - his scummy claim and play are are at right angles to each other

2) Bax: does not want to claim for obvious reasons - perhaps a win condition if he is lynched? Because a false claim would be better than no claim if you are scum? Or is he hoping we would think that? Definetly not town.

3) Swang (3p) Can't see the Mayor as mafia only as 3p. And if the mayor was a 100% false claim that would have been a poor choice. Swang is smarter than that.

4) Darin ?
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby Charle on Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:07 am

strike wolf wrote:2. Charle-(name)-flavor cop. N1-Na. N2-Pix (footprints). Confirmed by Pix's later claim of Four-Legged Man N3-Swang-Red Tape.


The name is Tongue-Tongue, a creation of Dr. Mung-Mung. Townie who can taste information during night.

We are not going to get more out of Bax, shall we go ahead with the lynch?
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby SoN!c on Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:59 am

Charle wrote:
strike wolf wrote:2. Charle-(name)-flavor cop. N1-Na. N2-Pix (footprints). Confirmed by Pix's later claim of Four-Legged Man N3-Swang-Red Tape.


The name is Tongue-Tongue, a creation of Dr. Mung-Mung. Townie who can taste information during night.

We are not going to get more out of Bax, shall we go ahead with the lynch?


I was thinking that, Tongue-Tongue also appears on Season 3 episode 08 Tick vs. Science. You said "taste" while anybody else would have said "i can smell" so that's one of the rerasons i posted Season 3 episode 08 Tick vs. Science in full and said i believed you hinting other characters would be in there.

In short: My vote is to Lynch one for sure but do we lynch Bax or do we lynch Traffic..??

About Bax, the only clue he gave was the "crystal clear" i am town.

CRYSTAL is a Tick charackter but neutral allignment too so that would be 3p as well just like Swang.

And CRYSTAL needs to get a "mustache", the mayor has a mustache but that is overthinking it i think ;-) Like Swang and Bax need to get each other. Bax is voting for Swang..

So this is wild speculation but it did cross my mind.

I mean Bax is not claiming even L-1 and Swang did not deny the mayor would have to be 3p.. So perhaps there is a reason for that?

Here is CRYSTAL:

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So i would go for Traffic but i would wanna hear everybody's idea.

Perhaps we should also agree on our night actions before the lynch so we don't hinder each other and have big clues on D5 if scum prevented those actions during the night?

Like if we lynch Traffic Pepe goes for Bax and you snif Darin (or even better somebody else to confirm their claim)?
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby swang918 on Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:05 am

General Bax wrote:Sorry guys won't be available for the next couple of days due to obvious reasons


I have no idea what the obvious reasons are

Vote Bax

and I'm town not 3p. 3 third parties in a game is too much.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby degaston on Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:14 am

Vote Count:
    General Bax : 5 (Charle, *Pixar*, traffic133, PepeAtila, swang918)
    swang918 : 1 (General Bax)
    traffic133 : 3 (strike wolf, Ragian, SoN!c)

    No Vote : 2 (Darin44, TrafalgarLaw01)
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby strike wolf on Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:19 am

Charle wrote:
strike wolf wrote:2. Charle-(name)-flavor cop. N1-Na. N2-Pix (footprints). Confirmed by Pix's later claim of Four-Legged Man N3-Swang-Red Tape.


The name is Tongue-Tongue, a creation of Dr. Mung-Mung. Townie who can taste information during night.

We are not going to get more out of Bax, shall we go ahead with the lynch?


I figured this would be your character and I'm pretty confident you're town.

So between Bax, Traffic, Darin and Swang, i believe we have at least two scum. Of course between Bax and Darin is likely the last role that I consider 100% certain to be in the game so...of those 4, I feel Swang, Traffic and Bax have acted scummier than Darin with Traffic and Bax acting the most scummy.

Traffic is also claiming a role that if he's not lying is liable to hurt town as much as it's liable to hurt scum. So I think he's the safest lynch of the four.

I'm good with Bax but think I'd rather lynch Traffic for the above reasons.

I do also still want to hear a full claim from Swang but doesn't seem like others are on the same page and am willing to wait.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby PepeAtila on Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:28 am

General Bax wrote:Sorry guys won't be available for the next couple of days due to obvious reasons

Ok. Obvious reasons is because he writes from Israel.
For now (a couple of days) unvote
But I guess more or less we got some information for each playe except Bax and Darin.
We will decide who to lynch later.(Bax, traffic, ...Āæ ? Āæ ? )
Now vote Darin
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby strike wolf on Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:58 am

Yea. Actually Pepes right. We need something from Darin. Strike wolf tired. Brain want lazy.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby Ragian on Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:40 pm

I'm getting jitters that Strike, Pix, and Charle are our last scum. They're so intertwined now. They're not playing scummily, but there is just that unsettling thought.

@Pepe, if whoever we lynch turns out not town and one or more of the three above are on the lynch, you take them out.

Paranoid Rage out for the day.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:59 pm

Ragian wrote:I'm getting jitters that Strike, Pix, and Charle are our last scum. They're so intertwined now. They're not playing scummily, but there is just that unsettling thought.

@Pepe, if whoever we lynch turns out not town and one or more of the three above are on the lynch, you take them out.

Paranoid Rage out for the day.


Is it weird that I had the same thought this morning?

I was thinking either the 3 of them are town with everything well explained. Or the 3 of them made the greatest story as Scum.

Pix "confirmed" Strike move - Strike is indeed Roleblocker and then Charle made up a role to give more credibility to Pix.
but I think Pix has commented honestly, specially when he was after strike and when we tought he visited you instead of Pix N2. So I toos the idea aside.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby traffic133 on Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:08 am

so whoever visited sonic on night 2 is manipulating him because a couple of things i dont mention yet lets see how the day plays
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:41 am

Having said that i want a claim from Darin and Bax
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby Charle on Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:23 am

I am going to keep my vote for Bax, I really would like a claim from him before I would change my vote, and I agree, I would at least want to get some kind of clue from Darin as well.

We really need to hit scum today.
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby SoN!c on Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:35 am

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:
Ragian wrote:I'm getting jitters that Strike, Pix, and Charle are our last scum. They're so intertwined now. They're not playing scummily, but there is just that unsettling thought.

@Pepe, if whoever we lynch turns out not town and one or more of the three above are on the lynch, you take them out.

Paranoid Rage out for the day.


Is it weird that I had the same thought this morning?

I was thinking either the 3 of them are town with everything well explained. Or the 3 of them made the greatest story as Scum.

Pix "confirmed" Strike move - Strike is indeed Roleblocker and then Charle made up a role to give more credibility to Pix.
but I think Pix has commented honestly, specially when he was after strike and when we tought he visited you instead of Pix N2. So I toos the idea aside.


Very weird. Strike will go nuts when he reads this.

Now, 5 townies are already dead and only 1 scummie + 2 Third parties.


Murdered townies:
Extreme Ways / "Sgt. Doodlehead" (Citizen, Cop): Killed N3 visited Pix on N1 and SoN!c on N2
Charle / "Dr. Mung Mung" (Citizen, Doctor): Shot N1
Loose Canon / "Bi-Polar Bear" (Citizen, Odd Day Voteless, Even Day Double-voter): Shot N2 by Pepe Town Vig
Maxleod / "Captain Mucilage" (Citizen, Delayer): Modkilled D2 : no actions
DukeHazzard / "Uncle Creamy" (Citizen, Miller, 2-Shot Vanillaiser): Shot N2 : i was vanilla iced on N2, i think by Duke. Pix said he was vanilla iced as well? (He was saying he got a cold just as i)
So im guessing Duke used his 2-Shot Vanillaiser N1 on me and Pix

dead scum:
fusibaseball / "Shiela Eel" (Mafia, Electrifier): Blown up N2


dead Third parties (2)
DirtyDishSoap / "The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs At Midnight" (Third-party, Time-Bomber, Hider, 1-Shot Smoke Bomb): Lynched D3
Razorvich / "Barry Hubris" (Third Party, Loved, Condemner): Lynched D2


Town list:
*Pixar* : is town, confirmed by EW visit N1, confirmed by Charle tasting "lots of legs" and claims to be 4-legged man-tracker, Confirmed by Strike

PepeAtila: is the town vig 100% Confirmed from night scene. N3-NA

Charle must be town: his ability checked out, confirmed by Swang and Pix. Can't see his ability being scumpower? I think Degaston gave him a new role instead of swapping with the role that was ment to be for Drake tho (to not take any risks Drake would disperse his role information to somebody else like on whatsapp)

Strike : sounds genuine to me - he is searching for scum and he "searched" me enough. Strike claims The Doorman-Roleblocker with following actions: N1-Son!c confirmed by Pix. N2-Pix confirmed through Pix getting no result. N3-Swang. Supported by Pix seeing him go nowhere

Ragian: town, only that last "paranoid" post baffles me a bit, especially when Traf said he had the exact same idea this morning on "Strike, Charle and Pixar being our last 3 scum"??.

So that leaves the following suspects:

swang918: good theories, claims to be the mayor, after Charle's ability to taste "red tape". Says he can't be 3p because there can't be more then 2 in the game. I have no clue if that is so, its my first game. Votes for Bax. I think 3p but if 2 is the max then he should be town. The mayor can't be scum if he's not 3p. Ofcourse the mayor claim is not confirmed..

Trafalgarlaw01: claims Crusading Chameleon-Absorber. Not confirmed. Same role 3p DDS claimed
Mafia wiki gives following play advice for that role:
As Town, an Absorber is much more powerful if it can absorb something self-protective, as it can then safely claim and start organising night actions to make itself more powerful. Unfortunately, there are very few active roles that allow a player to self-protect. Barring that, it's probably best to keep your role secret, otherwise you're likely to get nightkilled; the scum almost certainly have some way to bypass Doctor protection if there's an Absorber in the setup.
So what seems strange to me is why TrafalgarLaw was not killed that night but EW instead? Trafalgar the "certain good kill" but instead going for EW and take a gamble (for mafia if Traf is town)
Law just being alive after that night makes him a strong suspect

traffic133: softclaims Carpeted Man with no actions during one of the nights. Says whoever visited SoN!c on night 2 is manipulating SoN!c because a couple of things he does not want to mention yet "lets see how the day plays"
Says his only power is a static boom boobytrap if scum visits him during the night but did not try anything to make scum visit him all game long.

Darin44: no claim; said in the beginning of the game he has reading and writing difficulties "I was afraid to post anything. because it don't matter what I someone will thank its scummy" "I miss spelled a word you are lucky I even right anything, It hard for me to spell anything I have to think real hard to do so". So why do you wanna play a reading game then?

General Bax: said it's CRYSTAL clear he's town and is after Swang, that's about it. Never explained why it should be clear, let alone "crystal clear". It would take 5 minutes to post a claim on L-1 but he did not wanted to do so for days , and now he wont for many more days because he is in Israel with the Hamas situation unfolding
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Re: The Tick Mafia - D4

Postby PepeAtila on Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:01 am

as far as I see, in this game there is none scum.
But it is too stopped ...
I will not continue voting somebody who is not writing ... (it is not very )
unvote vote traffic
Just to move something.
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