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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby new guy1 on Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:15 pm

Dakky, he's doing it to build a profile on us. He's going to use it with his thoughts and determine if he trusts us. Either that, or he has us pegged as trustworthy, and wants opinions from relatively safe informers. Either way, I don't find it scummy until later days, if it's all he's contributed.

@Buj- The only thing I find weird is that it mentions the mystery pokemon (find it hard to believe that in a game this size, the SK would be outed as being pokemon, though it certainly would work towards the goal of making his claim suicidal). It strikes me as weird, but I am leaning towards it being a true claim. I would see it as full-proof if/when a trainer is forced to claim, they came out and said that it was their WC too, to defeat this mystery pokemon, or in some other way confirmed this part of the WC. If Mewtwo is in the game, I would expect to see Mew, the pokemon who's DNA was used and manipulated to make MewTwo, in order to counterbalance MewTwo. I felt like someone brought up Mewtwo on Day 1, so I'll try and make an effort today to go back and look for who made that mention, if it was made. Would seem a little suspect to me that there was speculation of that idea the first day, although if it was given in WC's as a mystery pokemon, that could just be out loud speculation for the inner circle who knew about that section of the WC.

After typing the following part, I realized a lot of it had devolved to intense speculation based on the movie just giving details to consider about MT's role. The rest of the game seems loosely based on the show, with Mandy's own twist, so I am considering flavor could have a bit larger of an impact in this game than in an average game. Take all my speculation with a grain of salt, it was stuff that was coming to my mind as I was trying to break down MT's role and how it would play in to balance the game.

Other than that, the goal for a "side character" so to speak would be to defeat Ash (as the main protagonist, though this might just be part of Dakky's WC as a result of being Gary's pokemon, they're rivals) IMO, and to defeat TR, who are always the bad guys, so if this was a third part to the WC, I could see it fitting flavor wise and WC wise. As for Gio being in the game, I am torn. If MewTwo is an SK, I would expect that Gio was in the game, and would have some WC's to reclaim MewTwo. He invented MT for power, and MT left him when he discovered Gio was only going to use him, treating him as a tool and not an equal, to gain power and retinue for his own gain. Gio wanted the most powerful pokemon, and while he never found MT in the movie after the departure, he was depicted as trying to, rushing away in his helicopter to try and follow MT. If MewTwo isn't just an SK (I think he is, if he's the reason Charmander died, as it sounded), I could see him having latent or hidden powers that weren't obvious in the scene, given that the movie only came to a "peaceful" resolution because MT was convinced by others that it didn't matter if pokemon were cloned or born, rather what they did with life that made them important. Actually, thinking about it he left with his group of cloned pokemon which could indicate a cult, but that would be a stretch IMO. He also depicted himself as the "worlds greatest pokemon master" on his island during the movie, which would allow room for Mandy to mess with his role in a non-conventional way. Otherwise, he had enough power to defeat the rest of the pokemon, trainers, cause a storm or two while he was at it and still talked trash the whole time. So it's possible (as I said, I don't suspect it as so. With TR's size having to be at least 4-5 and a SK with a cult recruit??? Mew would DEFINITELY be in the game to counter, and we're running out of role slots) MT could have more powers than we know he has, if he's there.

I went really far into this, and I was going to erase what wasn't necessary, but I don't know what to erase that wouldn't take out one explanation or another detail which would make it incomplete or inconsistent, so I'll leave this speculative piece of gibberish for everyone else to interpret/ignore. The wrap up version- I think Dakky's claim is solid, made more solid with backup from a trainer later on that these are their WC's (because if the trainer's WC is different, I don't think it matches up). I think speculation on MT is necessary, because if it was mentioned in people's PM's that there is a mystery pokemon, MT would fit the profile the best, it would make sense flavor wise that trainers and their pokemon had to beat him because he wants the trainer's pokemon in the movie (the trainers aren't worthy), and WP would not be affected because they serve nobody, and would see MewTwo as just as good of a trainer as human trainers (not saying MT can catch them, saying that if the game ended with MT and the WP, I could see his WC not consisting of wiping out WP, because presumably with no trainers around, he would become their master, flavor wise), and no WP have stated that they were informed of this mystery pokemon, and therefore, I don't think they have beef with him.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby dakky21 on Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:58 pm

Nice breakdown new guy.

So as I was speculating before about the game setup, I will give my thoughts again and maybe something new.
26 players
Trainers = Ash, Gary, Jessie, James
Jessie's starting pokemon = Meowth (died the pretty much same way as Pikachu, while talking and not watching his back)
James starting pokemon = ????
a lot of Wild Pokemons to be catched by trainers
and one 3rd party, possibly MewTwo, probably SK

Anyway, one thing is bothering me, do the only trainers receive the result of their actions (trying to catch WP) or their pokemon also receive the action result. I know Gary did try to catch a pokemon this night, and I know he failed, but I don't know if he failed because he targeted a trainer or because the pokemon escaped. If the pokemon escaped, at least we would know we targeted a pokemon... if it didn't escape but nothing happened, we would know Gary trown a ball on another trainer... I'm waiting for Mandy's answer but nothing yet.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:22 pm

Mewtwo would have been a suicidal claim anyway since there is no mention of Psychic pokemon. I wonder if he is treated as a pokemon or a trainer. Did he recruit Poliwag?
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby madmitch on Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:19 pm

Okay a couple of things that are bothering me 1 Legionnare statement about me saying I got stronger .if he does not know why I said that then he can't be a pokemon so he must be a trainer and most likely scum.2,Doom saying I claimed Bulbasaur which I never did , maybe Doom is and he soft claimed his role? also I never brought up the name squirtle some one else did ,I just thought it was possible Dakky was a water Pokemon because of his claim and we have not seen any yet. number 1 seems more scummy to me so vote Legionnare FOS DOOM
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby BuJaber on Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:27 pm

Nobody said anybody claimed mewtwo..
I wanted comments on dakky, because his claim can easily be countered by a trainer. I have varying reasons for choosing ragian, yoshi, and new guy.

Dakky - doesn't look like any trainer has called you out. And I can't imagine any logical reason why you would say all that about your WC if you were TR. So there you go... Unvote. You have pretty much guaranteed yourself a lynch if you lied, and that makes you trustworthy.

I don't know the anime well. I've only watched a few episodes a long time ago. It does look like there's a mewtwo, but I don't think there'd be a mew also in this game. Just wouldn't really track with everything.

Our primary focus is and will always be to eliminate TR. Speculation about who mewtwo might be can be helpful for trainers but if you (trainers) don't want to alienate all the wild pokemon you will focus on TR for now with us.

That said.. my top candidates for scum are samlen and hotshot. I will study their posts and decide who I think is the better case.

Actually legion could also be scum. Mitch would need to do some deductive reasoning, but he can totally know if he got stronger even before mandy PM's him.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 with a well-rested mod

Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:48 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:Vote count:

Mitch (9) - legionnare, Samlen, Yoshi, Dakky, , Fircoal, Kwanton, Masket, TWO,

Talapus (1) - Skoffin

Fircoal (13) - Wing, Tim, Anark, Nagerous, Mitch, Serbia, new guy, Strike, Talapus, BuJaber, Aage, Mets, Exile

Skittles (1) - Hotshot

Wing (1) - Skittles

Nagerous (1) - Ragian

25 alive, 13 to lynch

Fircoal has been lynched. Scene should be coming with an hour. Feel free to talk until then.


So here is my wall of text... Buckle up, buttercup!

First, Ragian said this before we saw the lynch scene:
Ragian wrote:I didn't vote for cases I didn't believe in. You didn't vote for cases you wanted others to believe in.


This gives me the definite feeling he was town before night actions happened. Scum would never have said that knowing what was about to flip.

Next, Fircoal was Mafia Charmer... So, what do you guys think a mafia charmer is? It is basically a recruiter, yes? Would we assume that BOTH of the TR trainers have the same role? Who is to say that only Fircoal could recruit new pokemon? Maybe there is only one or maybe two scum left and everyone else is neutral or good? Thoughts? Ideas?

nagerous wrote:There is still a few other players who look pretty suspicious but I will need to have a re-read of how the lynches played out before making any firm accusations, either way I have to say the way that Ragian tried desperately to deflect attention away from fircoal who was L-1 with a humongous post on me has to be viewed as pretty suspect.


Again, with what Ragian said right before the lynch, I don't think he could be scum... Although, you can of course argue that he did it to distance himself, that would be a very ballsy move...

So far, Wing and myself were absolutely correct about two of the probable three scum... Fircoal and Skoffin were both scum, and we have been pointing that out for a long time... So... You guys should really look back at Skittles, as well.

dakky21 wrote:Guess you will find it soon ... so.... I will tell you now... to cut the crap... I'm Gary's pokemon... lynch me if you think that is smarter than lynching Team Rocket or their pokemon.

So do people buy this? I doubt anyone can counter claim... And, because of that, I have a question for you, Dakky... Did your trainer (Gary) recruit another Pokemon last night? And, if so, do you know what pokemon it was?

HotShot53 wrote:After getting home from vacation late sunday, I was planning to read through and come to a conclusion after work monday... but the day ended before then. Thankfully everyone made the right decision and got the scum. Along with another scum dead last night, things are looking good so far.

I still think the bandwagon on mitch had scum on it trying to get the easy lynch... and samlen posting that he's willing to try to lynch mitch again seems very scummy to me so I will vote samlen

So does DoomYoshi? Why vote Samlen and not Yoshi???

DoomYoshi wrote:I'm trying to figure out who Gary is. I really don't like how Skoffin flipped scum after playing identical to masket (apart from the whole "I'm a trainer" thing). Either Skoffin is a really good mafia player or the trainers are so close to scum as to be indistinguishable. nagerous is my first guess here. Skittles is TR? Unfortunately with another night of recruits, almost anyone can be TR now.


You had more than one person telling you she was scummy... Your surprise is weird...

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BuJaber wrote:Nah dakky is not a pokemon. I never bought it from the start. Let's not get fooled.


Look, you see no one is following your boring case on me. From the D1 scene you can learn Gary is in the game, and from the N1 scene you can see Pikachu was Ash's starting Pokemon. So by using logic you can deduct I am really Gary's pokemon and unless someone counter claims, the case on me is invalid so start looking for the real scum please.

On the other hand as I already said, you were on every wagon so far and are now trying to keep my case active so you don't have to wagon onto another case, while not seeing the obvious. Looks like you're making a case, but instead you didn't say anything about anyone else last 20 pages or so. Seems like cleverly avoiding the discussion.

vote bujaber


Dakky makes a really good point on Bu, but Bu was one of the first people to believe what Wing and I were arguing... So, I don't see it as jumping on that bandwagon as much as seeing the truth.

DoomYoshi wrote:Skittles brought up Bill because he is trying to set up possible fake claims.

vote Jessie/Skittles


By the end of this review, this is most likely where my vote is going.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:59 pm

dakky21 wrote:
The1exile wrote:Possibly mewtwo in this game? Maybe as a serial killer or just a massively overstated wild pokemon, perhaps in a PGO role.


Are you implying there is a mystery pokemon in the game or 3rd party one, not being wild?
Because it sounds like you are.
And if you are, then you know more than wild pokemon know, which would mean that either you were caught by a trainer, or you are a trainer yourself. Only trainers and their pokemons know about mystery pokemon, not wild ones.

And since Ash is out, Gary being mine, I find you as Team Rocket trainer or pokemon...

I'll keep my vote on BuJaber for now as I believe you could be "just" pokemon trying to protect him, let's see what others have to say.


Excellent catch, Dakky...

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new guy1 wrote:Just makes me wonder if the trainers are on the same side as the WP.


They are, with one change... if WP's are recruited, then some more win conditions apply. WP's can win on their own just by eliminating TR, while in team with a trainer, they need to beat Ash and his pokemon (beaten), TR. and a mystery pokemon, probably Mewtwo. Of course, don't forget that TEAM R also has trainers.

I think Yoshi isn't what he says he is (or/and did he say what he is?) and I'll have a full case tomorrow.


Very interested to see your post about this...

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Regardless, this made me realize something. Pikachu was ash's Pokémon. Pikachu isn't one of the 3 original starters and only given to ash because of plot. So that means (if dakky's was truthful) trainers either got a list of 4 wild Pokémon to choose from or all wild Pokémon. It could not have just been the starting 3.


I have believed they chose from the entire list the whole time... But, I don't necessarily think they chose the Pokemon, but the player...

madmitch wrote:Okay a couple of things that are bothering me 1 Legionnare statement about me saying I got stronger .if he does not know why I said that then he can't be a pokemon so he must be a trainer and most likely scum.2,Doom saying I claimed Bulbasaur which I never did , maybe Doom is and he soft claimed his role? also I never brought up the name squirtle some one else did ,I just thought it was possible Dakky was a water Pokemon because of his claim and we have not seen any yet. number 1 seems more scummy to me so vote Legionnare FOS DOOM


Legionnaire said that because NONE OF US HAVE LEARNED the results of our night moves... All we know is that we survived... If you have 2 hit points, you know you only took one HP of damage AT MOST... That does not mean that you didn't take any, or that you grew stronger... Again, you have to realize how XP works in this game...

So, my top candidates right now are still SKittles, Talapus, AAge and a little feeling of scumminess from Exile.

However, no vote for the moment...
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 with a well-rested mod

Postby dakky21 on Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:10 pm

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dakky21 wrote:Guess you will find it soon ... so.... I will tell you now... to cut the crap... I'm Gary's pokemon... lynch me if you think that is smarter than lynching Team Rocket or their pokemon.

So do people buy this? I doubt anyone can counter claim... And, because of that, I have a question for you, Dakky... Did your trainer (Gary) recruit another Pokemon last night? And, if so, do you know what pokemon it was?


As I said before, I know Gary did try to catch a pokemon, and I know he failed. I don't know if he failed because he hit a trainer or because he "missed" the pokemon. Still waiting for an answer from Mandy.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby madmitch on Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:18 pm

If my target dies I gain experience point and my target did die ,that is all I meant.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby dakky21 on Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:56 pm

madmitch wrote:If my target dies I gain experience point and my target did die ,that is all I meant.


You did read the rules right? You did read your claimed "WP" role? If multiple WP attack the same target then the experience is shared... And you did not level up. BUT you were so sure that you gained strength like you were messaged from Mandy himself. That changes things...
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby legionnare on Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:56 pm

madmitch wrote:Okay a couple of things that are bothering me 1 Legionnare statement about me saying I got stronger .if he does not know why I said that then he can't be a pokemon so he must be a trainer and most likely scum.2,Doom saying I claimed Bulbasaur which I never did , maybe Doom is and he soft claimed his role? also I never brought up the name squirtle some one else did ,I just thought it was possible Dakky was a water Pokemon because of his claim and we have not seen any yet. number 1 seems more scummy to me so vote Legionnare FOS DOOM

madmitch wrote:If my target dies I gain experience point and my target did die ,that is all I meant.

OMGUS vote here plus (and this is me being nicpicky) don't know why these two posts are an hour apart when you could have put them together.

I am fully aware of how levelling works, the main issue I have however that you haven't picked up is that my target also died but I have not been told whether I am stronger or not. Even if I did become stronger it is not something I would be posting about. So I don't see why you would be posting about it other than to try and sound townish.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby legionnare on Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:57 pm

dakky21 wrote:
madmitch wrote:If my target dies I gain experience point and my target did die ,that is all I meant.


You did read the rules right? You did read your claimed "WP" role? If multiple WP attack the same target then the experience is shared... And you did not level up. BUT you were so sure that you gained strength like you were messaged from Mandy himself. That changes things...

My thinking as well (but better put)
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 with a well-rested mod

Postby legionnare on Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:03 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Next, Fircoal was Mafia Charmer... So, what do you guys think a mafia charmer is? It is basically a recruiter, yes? Would we assume that BOTH of the TR trainers have the same role? Who is to say that only Fircoal could recruit new pokemon? Maybe there is only one or maybe two scum left and everyone else is neutral or good? Thoughts? Ideas?

I think that Mafia Charmer means that they can recruit other trainers rather than pokemon tbh
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby legionnare on Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:07 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:So, my top candidates right now are still SKittles, Talapus, AAge and a little feeling of scumminess from Exile.

Aage is dead dude, he was Geodude.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 with a well-rested mod

Postby dakky21 on Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:40 pm

legionnare wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Next, Fircoal was Mafia Charmer... So, what do you guys think a mafia charmer is? It is basically a recruiter, yes? Would we assume that BOTH of the TR trainers have the same role? Who is to say that only Fircoal could recruit new pokemon? Maybe there is only one or maybe two scum left and everyone else is neutral or good? Thoughts? Ideas?

I think that Mafia Charmer means that they can recruit other trainers rather than pokemon tbh


Well thats interesting thinking.... it's possible and I never thought of that... well, that could change things if you're right, but also makes me ask a question, how did you come to such idea?
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 with a well-rested mod

Postby legionnare on Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:45 pm

dakky21 wrote:
legionnare wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Next, Fircoal was Mafia Charmer... So, what do you guys think a mafia charmer is? It is basically a recruiter, yes? Would we assume that BOTH of the TR trainers have the same role? Who is to say that only Fircoal could recruit new pokemon? Maybe there is only one or maybe two scum left and everyone else is neutral or good? Thoughts? Ideas?

I think that Mafia Charmer means that they can recruit other trainers rather than pokemon tbh


Well thats interesting thinking.... it's possible and I never thought of that... well, that could change things if you're right, but also makes me ask a question, how did you come to such idea?

My thinking was that if a trainer can catch a pokemon as an action (i.e. Gary's failed attempt) then why would a Team Rocket trainer need a special role in order to the same? Would also mean that a Team Rocket faction with 3/4 members (Jessie, James, Meowth + Giovanni) would not be under-powered in a game with 26 players. If that is the case then knocking out their Mafia Charmer is a terrible blow to them and will almost certainly mean victory for us.
Also (and I may be mis-remembering) I'm pretty sure that Jessie & James try to recruit Ash when they first meet in the tv show?
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Ragian on Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:19 am

BuJaber wrote:
dakky21 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Just makes me wonder if the trainers are on the same side as the WP.


They are, with one change... if WP's are recruited, then some more win conditions apply. WP's can win on their own just by eliminating TR, while in team with a trainer, they need to beat Ash and his pokemon (beaten), TR. and a mystery pokemon, probably Mewtwo. Of course, don't forget that TEAM R also has trainers.

I think Yoshi isn't what he says he is (or/and did he say what he is?) and I'll have a full case tomorrow.



Yoshi/Ragian/New guy -- Please comment on this post.. Is that WC believable?

Here I come a day too late. Sorry about that...

I reckon yes. Why? Do you not believe it? I've played other games where people's wincons change. Sorry I didn't have as long a response as newguy :D It said "if" a lot. I didn't get any wiser...

Nark posted. Long post. Some skimming. Never realised dakky had already spilled the beans about Gary, never saw that Aage dies, never saw that I asked the exact same question about hotshot's vote on Samlen instead of Doom. He did say that he finds me either to be town or ballsy, though, so I'm bought.

@Legion, why are you voting Mitch? If you were to break it down into a sentence or two?

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby Ragian on Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:21 am

Not sure what that beginning of the last sentence is doing in my post above...
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby The1exile on Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:08 am

legionnare wrote:
madmitch wrote:(mitch stuff)

OMGUS vote here plus (and this is me being nicpicky) don't know why these two posts are an hour apart when you could have put them together.

This is a very good point. And the longer this goes on - especially with mitch admitting to killing someone, and with my suspicion mewtwo is in the game - the more I suspect mitch may have got additional info that is due to playing this special role, that other pokemon haven't received, i.e. he could be mewtwo.

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 with a well-rested mod

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:46 am

dakky21 wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
dakky21 wrote:Guess you will find it soon ... so.... I will tell you now... to cut the crap... I'm Gary's pokemon... lynch me if you think that is smarter than lynching Team Rocket or their pokemon.

So do people buy this? I doubt anyone can counter claim... And, because of that, I have a question for you, Dakky... Did your trainer (Gary) recruit another Pokemon last night? And, if so, do you know what pokemon it was?


As I said before, I know Gary did try to catch a pokemon, and I know he failed. I don't know if he failed because he hit a trainer or because he "missed" the pokemon. Still waiting for an answer from Mandy.


So you do have daytalk?
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby nagerous on Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:58 am

Apologies for lack of posting last few days been busy with family and Christmas.

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:10 am

@BuJaber I never answered your question earlier: don't believe for a second that the cult is town aligned. Dakky is as scummy as they come if it weren't for Team Rocket in the game. He is only worth keeping alive as a source of information. If you can kill his trainer maybe he will die or revert.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby legionnare on Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:47 am

Ragian wrote:@Legion, why are you voting Mitch? If you were to break it down into a sentence or two?

@Ragian, below are 3 quotes that generally outline my reason for voting Mitch. First two are from D1 third is from D2.
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TL:DR = Early fishing attempt + bandwagoning + possible slip from him suggesting he got a response email about his night action before the mod came out and said that only those who had results that would affect day would get an email.
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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 1 with a well-rested mod

Postby dakky21 on Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:58 am

DoomYoshi wrote:So you do have daytalk?


Nope, only night talk.

And we discussed who to try to capture and who should I attack during night. Capture failed, attack passed and today Mandy sent me the results, I got 1.5XP which means someone else also attacked the target as well.

What's interesting is the capture thing and I don't know how to put it... When I was recruited into Team Gary, I got a PM from Mandy which said that if my trainer catches another Pokemon, we will get a message. If the pokemon escapes, we would get a message that pokemon escaped. In the PM was nothing on if Gary hits another trainer, and today we got a message that catching failed. So it didn't say that pokemon escaped, but just that it failed. I guess that can mean two things: either Mandy failed with first PM, because if there are three states of catching - catched, escaped and failed, fail instantly means Gary hit another trainer. If there are only two states, catched and failed, then the first PM is wrong.

So unless we get further answers from Mandy, I won't reveal who have we agreed to try to catch during night, because that could change the whole game.

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Re: Indigo League Mafia/RPG Day 2

Postby legionnare on Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:28 am

So I thought I'd take a second look at the death scene to see if there were any other leads I could go after, here's my thoughts on it:

TEAM ROCKET
Jessie - Fircoal (Lynched)
James - ???
Meowth - Skoffin (killed by ???) From text it was with a whip-style attack (possibly Bulbasaur))
Giovanni? - ???

TRAINERS
Ash - Minister Masket (killed by Charmander) - Started with; Pikachu - TWO (killed by ??? (opponent was of unfavourable type so either Grass or Ground?))
Misty? - ??? - possibly starts with Staryu?
Brock? - ??? - possibly starts with Onyx?

WILD POKEMON
Cubone - Wing (killed by Meowth) Odd that text states that he charged the crowd but may just be flavour
Vulpix - Tim (killed by ???) Text states it was the whole crowd who killed him so maybe multiple attackers?
Charmander - Serbia (killed by ???) From the text it looks like he was suicided by a psychic pokemon (probably Mewtwo)
Geodude - Aage (killed by ???) From the text it looks like it was a fire type
Poliwag - ???
+ possibly 6-11 more depending on whether Jessie, James, Gio?, Misty? and Brock? started with a pokemon or had to pick/capture one.

3RD PARTY
Mewtwo? - ???
Mew? -???

So this brings up a few questions to me:
1) Note that Meowth is put as "Mafia's Pokemon" rather than Jessie's or James'
2) Whereas Pikachu is put as "Ash's Pikachu" and does not have Wild Pokemon after his name like the other ones
3) Who killed Pikachu, so who had grief with TWO?
4) Who killed Geodude, so who had grief with Aage?
5) How did Tim/Vulpix die? Was it multiple attackers or was it a Mafia Hit?
6) Who killed Charmander, so who had grief with Serbia?


Thoughts anyone?
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