GODFATHER MAFIA - FINALLY OVER! CORLEONES WIN!!!

[Selin]

It is possible that he is also one of the people who can be recruited, going by his role. Now if he does get recruited, then it will be a problem as mafia may be getting two kills on alternate days. So I am not sure whether he should be kept alive. Also nagerous I might have missed it, but has riggable been prodded?

a) Clive is certainly recruitable.

b) Barzini's are the only scum party that can recruit. That's why we get results like Barzini Cult ....etc. The roles of Carleone's indicate that they don't have recruiting powers.

c) In my opinion Clive's role of being a vig on alternate nights is correct!
And that brings me to an interesting conclusion that Barzini's have no night kill choice.


- Night 1: Carleone's killed MountainLion (the bomb) and f1fth (Carleone) was killed because of the bomb.
- Night 1: Gimpy (Carleone Hider) was killed, because he hided behind someone (Clive, AD or someone else) who had killing power.
- Night 2: Carleone's killed Kalish (Barzini Cult)
- Night 2: Clive (Vig on alternate nights) killed rebelman

d) We shouldn't keep Clive alive, If he is not already part of a scum party, there is a high risk that he can be recruited by Barzini's.

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[Selin]

oh, hey I just noticed something, these last two townies who died had green names, all the other townies had blue ones, also the ones with the green names are the only two who didn't have scum names, so that probably means the ones with blue names are recruitable for scum, right?

Correct.

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[dustn64]

From what I saw of Luca, for the first 3 minutes he was actually alive in the movie, he only worked for the C family. But his job was to act like a B family for information.

His plan went wrong and he was killed.


Don't know if this helps, but just saying.

[nagerous]

I'm a bit behind, I have some big essays to write tomorrow (3 2000 word ones), but I'll get around to vote counts and prodding when I can.

[Clive]

I'm Luca Brasi.

I'm a vig on alternate nights. I killed Rebel last night.

Why did you choose rebel?

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I thought there was a good chance he was scum, and he was pushing me quite hard, and I didn't want to have to claim with this, having wiki'd my character.

[pmchugh]

ok im prepared to unvote for now, even if clive is recruited he cant kill anyone tonight. If riggable doesnt show up soon thats where my vote will be going.

[Clive]

About being recruited - I probably am recruitable, but I haven't been recruited thus far, and with all the attention on me I highly doubt i'll be recruited now.

[dustn64]

About being recruited - I probably am recruitable, but I haven't been recruited thus far, and with all the attention on me I highly doubt i'll be recruited now.

I personally have no doubt that the cult will try to come after you later in the game. especially if we start eliminating a ton of them right off the bat.

[riggable]

alright guys, I realize I have been literally of no help this game. Its not my fault, really, this stupid ass new forum is giving my internet fits. I can't log on from either firefox or IE, I've cleared my caches and accepted all cookies countless times, and I still can't get on. My school computers aren't any better. Hell, my library computer can't even log on. Does Anyone else have this problem? its really a crapshoot whether I can login at all, I try everyday and its only every once and awhile, for a seemingly arbitrary reason, I can log on. Theres really no other reason for my inactivity than that, you can check, my activity in other topics on this forum is nearly nothing as well.

Anyways: on-topic.

The problem with this game is its hit a wall in the sense that we don't have multiple leads to go on. Normally, there are usually 2 or 3 scum candidates which you can then compare and contrast to find the most likely scummy person. However, each day we only are getting 1 new scum candidate and are just sticking to that, and so far we have been getting lucky. Our inability to branch out and look deeper for more inconspicuous scum candidates is nearly nil.

That being said, ironically enough, Clive is most likely the best vote for today. I don't mean this because he's a vigilante, i say this because he is most likely lieing. Not about the alternate night kill part, but the Vigilante part. Heres why:
uca Brasi, in the story and in the movie, is EXTREMELY loyal to the Corleone family. This is probably his one defining characteristic.

Luca Brasi is one of Don Vito Corleone's personal enforcers. Brasi is portrayed as slow-witted and brutish, but his ruthlessness and his fierce loyalty to Don Corleone means he is both feared and respected

Now, why would one of Don Vito Corleones "Personal Enforcers" be a third party Vigilante? It doesn't make sense. I don't believe that there is any moment in the book when Luca kills someone when not instructed by don vito or another member of the corleone family.
If you don't believe me take the 10 seconds to skim through Luca Brasi's wikipedia article.

I'm nearly 100% positive that Clive did NOT lie about his character name, but i AM nearly positive that he DID Lie about his character role, and that in fact he is a member of the corleone family.

Vote: Clive

[pmchugh]

alright guys, I realize I have been literally of no help this game. Its not my fault, really, this stupid ass new forum is giving my internet fits. I can't log on from either firefox or IE, I've cleared my caches and accepted all cookies countless times, and I still can't get on. My school computers aren't any better. Hell, my library computer can't even log on. Does Anyone else have this problem? its really a crapshoot whether I can login at all, I try everyday and its only every once and awhile, for a seemingly arbitrary reason, I can log on. Theres really no other reason for my inactivity than that, you can check, my activity in other topics on this forum is nearly nothing as well.

Anyways: on-topic.

The problem with this game is its hit a wall in the sense that we don't have multiple leads to go on. Normally, there are usually 2 or 3 scum candidates which you can then compare and contrast to find the most likely scummy person. However, each day we only are getting 1 new scum candidate and are just sticking to that, and so far we have been getting lucky. Our inability to branch out and look deeper for more inconspicuous scum candidates is nearly nil.

That being said, ironically enough, Clive is most likely the best vote for today. I don't mean this because he's a vigilante, i say this because he is most likely lieing. Not about the alternate night kill part, but the Vigilante part. Heres why:
uca Brasi, in the story and in the movie, is EXTREMELY loyal to the Corleone family. This is probably his one defining characteristic.

Luca Brasi is one of Don Vito Corleone's personal enforcers. Brasi is portrayed as slow-witted and brutish, but his ruthlessness and his fierce loyalty to Don Corleone means he is both feared and respected

Now, why would one of Don Vito Corleones "Personal Enforcers" be a third party Vigilante? It doesn't make sense. I don't believe that there is any moment in the book when Luca kills someone when not instructed by don vito or another member of the corleone family.
If you don't believe me take the 10 seconds to skim through Luca Brasi's wikipedia article.

I'm nearly 100% positive that Clive did NOT lie about his character name, but i AM nearly positive that he DID Lie about his character role, and that in fact he is a member of the corleone family.

Vote: Clive

thats all a good point but i noticed you didnt say anythin on your own defense despite several people asking for it, i agree with what you have said but i would also like to hear from you about you trying to get us to stop the last lynch.

[riggable]

I did indirectly answer that question, but thanks for asking my to elaborate:

I was NOT against yesterday's lynch vote. I was instead asking for people to wait, to not go running into a lynch of a, in my mind, possible Jester. I even said It was a big stretch that he could be a jester, but I think I explained it EXTREMELY well in my post where I brought the jester possibility up:

"Something deep down inside me knows that this site's fondness for Jester-esque roles completely ruins the fun of playing mafia. Whenever I'm sure I've pinned down someone as scum or a good lynch, that little voice in my head begins muttering "the jester WANTS to get lynched"..."
And, in that post I also made it glaringly clear, as I said previously, that it was a big stretch that AD is a jester or another weird role:

"Its a big stretch though..."




All I was doing as asking that people make SURE that they take this possibility into consideration before they vote for A.D's lynch, and guess what? some people did, and then A.D got lynched. So really, my request was fulfilled exactly as I had requested, and I am, indeed, glad that A.D. Got lynched.

[riggable]

Also from Wikipedia

Another early incident involved Brasi killing off two of Al Capone's henchmen

Brasi's talent, it was said, was that he could do a job, or murder all by himself, without confederates, which made a criminal conviction almost impossible.

Looks like this is why i'm a vig.

I'm sorry for the double post, But I have to show once again, why Clive's logic is crap and he needs to be lynched.

The first quote, where he killed 2 of al capones henchmen, is when he was Asked to kill these two henchman FROM DON VITO because they were trying to kill don vito. This actually HELPS to prove that Clive is a part of the Corleone's, not in a third party.

The second quote: This quote is not referring to the fact that Luca Brasi could kill whoever he want without regard of anyone else, but actually the fact that Luca Brasi was so efficient at killing people that he did not need someone to help him do it: he didn't need a helper or a team to help him in his murdering, and he didn't need someone on the inside of a rival gang in order for him to get to and murder a member of the Rival gang. Again, this does nothing to prove any "vigilante" aspects of his character.

[The1exile]

I don't buy Clive's claim of innocence really - and even if he is innocent, Selin makes a good point about Barzini recruiters.

Vote Clive

[Clive]

Nag added roles like mine to prevent a mass claim breaking the setup. You are about to kill off a very useful town role.

[firth4eva]

Vote fucking Count?

[nagerous]

Vote Count:

Clive (11 ) Mandalorian, Got Tonkaed, Dustn, Icedagger, /, Selin, LSu, Illy,Neutrino, Riggable, Exile

23 alive, 12 to lynch.

[firth4eva]

f*ck it. vote clive

[nagerous]

After the cold-hearted murder of a doctor the day before, things were really begininnign to kick off. The murder had been committed by one of the Corleone henchmen Luca Brasi, and there was going to be hell to pay. Luca Brasi was tied up and strangled by the angry town members, and a message was sent to the Corleone don "Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes" The Corleone's hold on the town was weakening



Clive - Luca Brasi (Corleone Mafia Assassin) has been lynched!


It's now night 3..

72 hours for night actions.

[icedagger]

Nice one but we got lucky.. he was defending a Barzini not a Corleone.

[Clive]

Death Miller, Obv.

[jnd94]

hellz yeah.

[pmchugh]

yeah, we got lucky lol.

[dustn64]

Death Miller, Obv.

obviously. lying scumbag

[nagerous]

Bump for night actions so I can get this show on the road!

[CrabNebula]

bumpers