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[theherkman]

Commander, cut it out. I ASKED her for the information she posted. I wanted to know who contributed to the death of a townie.

[aage]

Sensfan would be my third suspect after Aage and Jace as dunno if anyone noticed but he's ignoring any accusation about him and just comes back to make a random post, asking a question, or whatever goes through his mind. When people call him out he doesn't post, just waits till people switch their attention to someone else. Is it a tactic? Probably not. Is it scummy? Hell yes.

I thought we already knew Sensfan was just as good a thread reader as Daze was? As in, not?

I would respond to your accusation of me if you had quoted the posts I made that actually mattered, but since you haven't I suppose I'll just let you search for them a little longer..

[aage]

Commander, cut it out. I ASKED her for the information she posted. I wanted to know who contributed to the death of a townie.

So do tell what special information "i will avenge your death dazey" contains?

[VioIet]

You obviously did not read the rest of my post commander, which seriously annoys the daylights out of me. If I really have to spell it out, I was trying to use evidence from Dazey's lynch. I included her last post- what she said, important issues she brought up, people she was suspicious about. I included the vote count, and the fact that she was indeed a townie, and had been truthful about everything. Amidst people telling her she was lying, they didn't trust her, she was scummy, she made no sense, and this and that. I think now its obvious she did make sense!! I think my post speaks for itself.

Commander, If you are not going to read my post fully- don't refer to me. Again.

People said there would be evidence. So where is it?

What evidence do we have from lynching Dazey??????????

[spiesr]

I think without more information or specific claims, were just going to be hashing out the same arguments over and over again. I think we need to here some specific claims from aage and Jace. I dont think anyone would disagree with me that these two currently appear to be the most scummy.

Conventional play strategy says that no-one has has enough votes on them at this point to justify any role claims at this point in the day.

On another note, due to the holiday, my ability to read and post has been reduced for Wednesday through Sunday...

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Commander, cut it out. I ASKED her for the information she posted. I wanted to know who contributed to the death of a townie.

Dazerazer has been lynched!
Scene coming in a little while. I have a couple things to do first.


Vote Count

aage (1) - fircoal,
dazerazer (11) - saxlad, iliad, aage, flores, TG, ga7, jace, haggis, edocsil, sens, spiesr
the herk (1) - naxus,
nag (1) - pmc
sensfan (6) - herk, blake, thez, /, stefunny, freezie
jace (1) - nag
haggis (3) - karel, daze, violet

16 to lynch.

There you go. Feel free to accuse everyone there of being scum. Please do so w/ little evidence. From pg. 58.

-TG

P.S. to fircoal: Why did you have your vote on aage D1? I couldn't find it in the search and I didn't really feel like manually going through all the pages. Was it a leftover joke vote? Or did you actually have a reason?

Oh and sorry for lack of posting. (Not that anybody missed me). This game is extremely annoying with pages full of nothing.

[Fircoal]

Commander, cut it out. I ASKED her for the information she posted. I wanted to know who contributed to the death of a townie.

Dazerazer has been lynched!
Scene coming in a little while. I have a couple things to do first.


Vote Count

aage (1) - fircoal,
dazerazer (11) - saxlad, iliad, aage, flores, TG, ga7, jace, haggis, edocsil, sens, spiesr
the herk (1) - naxus,
nag (1) - pmc
sensfan (6) - herk, blake, thez, /, stefunny, freezie
jace (1) - nag
haggis (3) - karel, daze, violet

16 to lynch.

There you go. Feel free to accuse everyone there of being scum. Please do so w/ little evidence. From pg. 58.

-TG

P.S. to fircoal: Why did you have your vote on aage D1? I couldn't find it in the search and I didn't really feel like manually going through all the pages. Was it a leftover joke vote? Or did you actually have a reason?

Oh and sorry for lack of posting. (Not that anybody missed me). This game is extremely annoying with pages full of nothing.

I voted Mandy early in the game because that's what I always do. Aage later replaced Mandy and I never took my vote off :3

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Ah yeah I forgot about that. Thanks for the clarification.

-Tails

[Victor Sullivan]

Fine. No one thinks my claim against VioIet is anything, so I won't waste my time; unvote

Along the lines of Haggis' voting Jace for the prod, I believe sensfan deserves one: vote sensfan. You guys almost kill him instead of dazerazer Day 1 and you just let him be with just FOSs, no votes? Sigh, I think this BW against aage is a mistake. I by no means agree with his aggression toward theherkman, as I have said already, but I find it difficult to believe he would be so aggressive during the day if he were scum. Would like to hear from Jace; the "claim and run" strategy he's utilizing isn't in his best interest...

-Sully

[FloresDelMal]

(...)If his grand team is as great as he implies they are, they must have told him to shut up at least 5.000 times. So either the team sucks, which is improbable since there's so many good players in this game that would say exactly that to THM; or his team is trying but he simply isn't listening, in which case I would like to see a second spokesperson instead of THM, who is not up for the job, but since I haven't seen anyone yet this is not an option I am considering; or he's a lying scumster with no team at all.

Is that enough?

ok, you could have been an utterly annoyed townie suffering from a bad case of obsessive compulsive disorder paired with a grave tunnel vision syndrome who went into a blind rage against an exceptionally impulsive newbie with a flair for flaming and getting into everyone's nerves; i was prepared to unvote you in the unlikely but plausible possibility that it was the case, but now after that you had this "oh they are so many great players" sucking up BS when you know that most of the time the roles distribution is not necessarily the reflect of a player presumed skill, and then you went and tried to use the stress and frustration that the hypothetically PTSD team mates of the herk could be experiencing by having to put up with his premature verbal ejaculation trying to lure out a new "spoke person".... seriously??? when did you turn out so cunning? anyway, my point is, that after this display of manipulation and baiting, i am more convinced than ever before of your scuminess, now i can keep my vote on you with peace of mind.

aage you havent answered yet to my post on page 67

Oh, sorry, I wasn't under the impression I should've quoted and analyzed this. But here you go:

Good call, Captain Obvious. Why do you think I want to see a second member of that power group of yours? Possibly because I also need info? Because I'm not a cop? As I already said? It's the almost-ultimate test of seeing whether you're speaking the truth and I'm targeting the wrong guy. The ultimate test would be lynching you, but it seems like people are more interested in lynching Jace so that's probably not going to happen today. And since Victor's test also didn't work, this is now the only way for me to be sure.

Not addressed to you but it pretty much explains whatever you wanted to be explained, I guess. I suppose you missed it.

obviously i did read that comment, but i didn't believe that the herk was worth to out another potential mason, why not ask for an investigation? why could you have announced since yesterday your witch hunt, closing yourself to the possibility of pursue any new information, why? that's what i was trying to understand and i still do, but you only get most defensive by the minute, and keep having this obsessed scummy attitude, and i really think that with your experience in mafia you should be better than that.

I think that if Jace is scum, then we should look at ga7, flores, and saxlad VERY CAREFULLY. If Aage is scum, we need to look at freezie, edocsil, and strike.

Also, violet, why are you voting me again?

Really??? and how exactly did you establish the link between Jace, ga7, sax and me ? (btw i do agree that sax is FOS deserving, but not for this pseudo reason you are giving here) and then how did you establish the link between aage, freezie, edoc and strike? (overall freezie who was pointing earlier the flawed logic of edoc in defending aage, and indirectly protecting you like most of us have) i think you are in a bad need of expanding, quoting and elaborating my dear Watson, also work on your comprehensive reading couldn't hurt.

You obviously did not read the rest of my post commander, which seriously annoys the daylights out of me. If I really have to spell it out, I was trying to use evidence from Dazey's lynch. I included her last post- what she said, important issues she brought up, people she was suspicious about. I included the vote count, and the fact that she was indeed a townie, and had been truthful about everything. Amidst people telling her she was lying, they didn't trust her, she was scummy, she made no sense, and this and that. I think now its obvious she did make sense!! I think my post speaks for itself.

Commander, If you are not going to read my post fully- don't refer to me. Again.

People said there would be evidence. So where is it?

What evidence do we have from lynching Dazey??????????

Violet, commander, please, we don't need another aage-herk comic relief duo, so stop this ridiculous rambling right now and start to contribute, no one cares if you hurted each other feelings, this is mafia, not a self help group, and about daze "contributions" they are just as meaningless and baseless today as they were day 1, get over it, the only person to blame for her lynch is herself, if she wasn't such a poor player she could be alive and kicking right now.

Victor Sullivan, I don't agree with you on lynching Violet.
She is annoying as hell, especially in her attacking everybody that even FoSes her or Dazerazer. Hell, when she saw my Day2 FoS on dazerazer her eyes went red in madness and she couldn't even read the next couple of posts in which that weird typo was corrected.

However, she seems like a child/inexperienced townie, not necessarily mafia.

that is the case I feel with aage, because he, besides attacking anybody who is after him, he also targets the person who we believe (or have to believe) to be a (really) good guy.

about all what you say about violet QFT, i do think she is a misleaded, inexperienced townie being as you so well put it "annoying as hell" who seems to follow the steps of the herk with the abuse of omgus, i think we have better leads than start to vote the little girl just because she plays bad, shame on you sully, tsk tsk.

But we cant say the same of aage, he is an experienced player, he should know better, he knows well enough the ropes so we can not pin his tunnel vision on lack of experience, it most means something else, i still have my money on lyncher.

I think without more information or specific claims, were just going to be hashing out the same arguments over and over again. I think we need to here some specific claims from aage and Jace. I dont think anyone would disagree with me that these two currently appear to be the most scummy.

Conventional play strategy says that no-one has has enough votes on them at this point to justify any role claims at this point in the day.

On another note, due to the holiday, my ability to read and post has been reduced for Wednesday through Sunday...

QFT, what's with all the fishing? claiming for the lol's have never helped anyone but scum, surely have never helped town.

Fine. No one thinks my claim against VioIet is anything, so I won't waste my time; unvote

Along the lines of Haggis' voting Jace for the prod, I believe sensfan deserves one: vote sensfan. You guys almost kill him instead of dazerazer Day 1 and you just let him be with just FOSs, no votes? Sigh, I think this BW against aage is a mistake. I by no means agree with his aggression toward theherkman, as I have said already, but I find it difficult to believe he would be so aggressive during the day if he were scum. Would like to hear from Jace; the "claim and run" strategy he's utilizing isn't in his best interest...

-Sully

sully, i don't really know violet, i think if anyone can prove that she is a smart player then she could be right now playing a brilliant scum, getting herself virtually cleared by defending daze, the scummiest townie ever, but if no one can prove that she could be capable of such a sophisticated move i am inclined to believe that she is just 2 of the same kind with daze, and if we peruse we could end with another annoying townie blood in our hands, not a very cheerful outcome.

Now, on day 1 we almost lynched sensfan based in his inactivity, now we got him to participate (more or less) canceling this reason to vote him (which by no means clear him, just says that he is not as inactive as before).

[Iliad]

Firstly sorry for not posting before, I had an exam.
Commander, vioiet, and aage, herk please stop this incessant bitching at each other.
Vioiet: if you cannot honestly go back and read one of the posts which explained why we should lynch daze, you might struggle at this game. Daze's lynch was quite deserved and you can go back and looking at the voting habits to find a scumtell, but stop with the melodramatic I will avenge you stuff.

Herk: if you what you say is true, and I'm trusting you for now, the less you reveal about your group, ie number of people, abilities, etc, the better for the town it is. Keep the mafia guessing. Also a little more quality discussion and less fluff would be appreciated, especially the omgus's and the rampant fos's thrown out at everyone without explanation. If you do have a scumtell, do what others have done, go back and find the relevant posts quote them and show some evidence, otherwise people will move on.

Now onto aage: I thought at first it just might have been a townie who got too sure of his theory and too obsessed with proving it true. However as time passes it seems to me, more like a lyncher or an anxious mafia who vastly overestimated their persuasive abilities. So vote aage

However huge foses at the inactives, especially jace, who put up a defence to divert attention off himself, hopped on a wagon, and left. Also pmc and nag, who are experienced and should be contributing much more and sensfan, who is in the same boat as jace, having protected himself and then disappeared again. So instead of just aage and herk battling it out, while vioet weeps tears for daze, let's get some more quality discussion. Also without more people, we are mostly going around in circles and not even getting close to pressuring someone yet

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[Stefunny85]

I haven't seen if anybody has pointed out that it still says replacements are needed in the thread topic. Perhaps having some of our inactives replaced could give us more info. If that's still a possibility then maybe we should wait on a lynch until we find out if more people will be participating soon. Perhaps we can get some info from them that may be important?

[Thezzaruz]

People said there would be evidence. So where is it?

What evidence do we have from lynching Dazey??????????

As I noted late on D1 most of the power of that evidence disappeared as we more or less came to a consensus about dazes behaviour and the reasons for voting her. Add to that the deadline that further reduced its power and we're left with very little info from her death. Sad but true.

Thezzarus has made very little posts but is ALWAYS intelligent with his posts. Makes it look like he is reading everything and choosing to post only occasionally.

Even though noting you said is untrue I do have to ask, since when is making well thought through posts/arguments bad?
I mean really?


I somewhat agrees with what Victor S said about VioIet but I don't think it's certain enough to warrant a vote.

I mostly agrees with what ga7 said about Jace and Edocsil.

I still don't trust sensfan any more than I did on D1but for now he gets away with a FoS.

But my biggest agreement atm is with a lot of people about aage. Repeatedly calling for the outing of claimed town power roles is not a good thing whatever way you try to spin it. While there still is a small chance of him being a townie that just don't know when to quit I think some added pressure is justified for now so, Vote aage.

[Thezzaruz]

Didn't cena get replaced?

His name still show in the OP so I guess not.

[spiesr]

Maybe there wasn't a NK because the whole mafia is inactive

Seems unlikely. Squirrel would probably tried to make sure that at least one of them was among those replaced.

I haven't seen if anybody has pointed out that it still says replacements are needed in the thread topic. Perhaps having some of our inactives replaced could give us more info. If that's still a possibility then maybe we should wait on a lynch until we find out if more people will be participating soon. Perhaps we can get some info from them that may be important

While of course we want to find replacements for those who need to be replaced as soon as possible, just sitting on our hands waiting for something that will take an unknown amount of time isn't going to get us anywhere...

[Stefunny85]

I haven't seen if anybody has pointed out that it still says replacements are needed in the thread topic. Perhaps having some of our inactives replaced could give us more info. If that's still a possibility then maybe we should wait on a lynch until we find out if more people will be participating soon. Perhaps we can get some info from them that may be important

While of course we want to find replacements for those who need to be replaced as soon as possible, just sitting on our hands waiting for something that will take an unknown amount of time isn't going to get us anywhere...

I'm not necessarily saying we sit on our hands and wait, but do you think the possibility of lynching another townie is worth it? What if we find out replacements are coming and maybe some of them have useful information!

[freezie]

If they weren't able to make a night action, it's unlickely they have THAT ammount of information..

Now, what way to go? There is many that could give us a potential scum or killing someone that won't help....I still don't trust neither aage and herk, and as Ga7 reminded me, aage did point outfront he wasn't the cop, so I doubt he has some real info on herk at all after all.

I agree with most people at this point, that they could both be town. A good scum wouldn't have went THAT far to get Herk's killed, and I doubt a lyncher is in this game for the same reason a jester would be : The premium prize with a 30 people game. It's not a great argument by any means, I just don't think Mr. S would have placed such a role in here for that reason.

If they are both scum going at each others to safeguard one of them...Well, one word: Wow. Nicely played. I quite doubt it however.

Edoc's agressive defense on Aage and then barely made a noise after still is strange to me..So once again I am torn to vote aage or not.

Sax is still once again in my scumdar, from D1. but voting him at this point seems quiite useless. And Jace's case is dieing out, sadly..I still beleive he would be our best choice at this point, alongside the nearly-useless Sens.

I keep my vote on Jace, for now. Convince me to do otherwise XD

[Commander9]

You obviously did not read the rest of my post commander, which seriously annoys the daylights out of me. If I really have to spell it out, I was trying to use evidence from Dazey's lynch. I included her last post- what she said, important issues she brought up, people she was suspicious about. I included the vote count, and the fact that she was indeed a townie, and had been truthful about everything. Amidst people telling her she was lying, they didn't trust her, she was scummy, she made no sense, and this and that. I think now its obvious she did make sense!! I think my post speaks for itself.

Commander, If you are not going to read my post fully- don't refer to me. Again.

People said there would be evidence. So where is it?

What evidence do we have from lynching Dazey??????????

I can how it is connected, but that's still the only one line that you've wrote. Just for the record, I don't think Vio is scum and that was more of a prod. Furthermore, I have never said anything about Vio and she was the one who called me a hypocrite. That's about it.

Also, anyone that referred to my contribution - I made a huge post, but the only parts that seems to be noticed is about Vio *sighs*

Finally, I'm not jumping on Aage's bandwagon or not even voting Herk and since these two are taken out, I vote Jace for skimming, for his quick appearance and defence with voting and then disappearance.

[Stefunny85]

I can how it is connected, but that's still the only one line that you've wrote. Just for the record, I don't think Vio is scum and that was more of a prod.Furthermore, I have never said anything about Vio and she was the one who called me a hypocrite. That's about it..

I went back to see where this whole argument started and it's funny...I can't find you saying ANYTHING about Vio in any of your posts but she did jump on you for some reason. I can't figure out how it started that she was upset with you...

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count

herk (2) - aage, violet,
sensfan (1) - victor
jace (4) - freezie, edocsil, stefunny, haggis
aage (7) - jace, ga7, fircoal, flores, saxlad, strike wolf, iliad

With 28 alive, 15 to lynch

Didn't cena get replaced?

I'm still looking for replacements for cena and lalaland. On account that serbia can't replace anymore and GaleDA left the site following his short arrival, I am still low on replacements. If I don't get some people soon I will just kill them off. At the very least it will keep the game moving.

[Victor Sullivan]

Lol even if all of us that have voted put our votes on one person, they still wouldn't be lynched.

[Commander9]

Since the big boss missed my vote, I'll vote again.

VOTE JACE.

[Flow520]

Just going back to what we know for sure, the town killed a bad guy last night.
theherkman claims to be pro-town and partially responsible for this kill.
No one has come forward with solid evidence to disprove theherkman's claim.(Plenty of spectulation, but nothing substanative)
Beyond all reason, aage seems to really want theherkman lynched today. (A stance that only makes sense if aage is scummy or operating on some unshared piece of information)
This argument has been repeated quite a few times.
I think aage is currently giving town the most reason to lynch, so I vote aage.

[TheSaxlad]

So Jace or Aage?

I have voted for Aage at the moment and will keep it that way until any new evidence comes up.
BTW,
@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

[aage]

@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

If there was any information concering THK's role I think it would have come up by now -.-