The Big Lebowski Mafia - Mafia and Lyncher win!

[nagerous]

Vote Count

Strike (1) Spiesr,
Flores (2) Haggis, mandy
Ga7 (1) Commander
Commander (1) Ga7
Haggis (1) Nark, Iliad
Eodc (1) Strike
Doom (1) Doom
Nark (1) , Flores
Pancake (1) safari


Votes on fircoal don't count as he is no longer in the game.

[strike wolf]

I'm not sure what you're getting at tails. My vote isn't on pancake or any of the inactives. I felt a bandwagon to kick this game out of the joke stage was necessary and pancake's seemed to be as good as any of them. I might have voted him but he was already forming a small bandwagon and I didn't feel another vote was necessary. Other than that i suppose I'm a bit irritated that there wasn't much discussion before now with three days...two days to deadline but not much to go on. Sorry if that came through in my posts last night.

Edit before post: Is that vote count accurate? I thought there were at least two votes on pancake.

[nagerous]

Yes it is accurate.

[strike wolf]

ah ok I see now...Tails voted then later unvoted pancake...

[ga7]

Hmm. I have been busy and glancing from time to time but it's true there wasn't anything remotely relevant till yesterday and I didn't have time to make wild conjectures (which always seem like a wasted effort on day 1 anyway).
I find the Tails vote/unvote while defense a bit weird, but something much more classic and obvious is worth pursuing IMO:

Unvote, vote Fir for his intentional infection of this thread. It's scummy

I'm a little reluctant to hop on the pcm wagon, because really there hasn't been much discussion to get into. Except for pokemon.

So I'll just stick with my vote on Fir for derailing us here...

So, on one side there is the blatant skimming that is even more remarkable here in that there are so few posts and this replacement was made obvious in 4 different posts before Nag's last VC. On another there's the manner Streaker prefers to blame one person on the collaborative derailment as Spiesr put it and sticks with that when there's at least some semblance of serious discussion starting. One might say it isn't as bad as those simply not contributing, but I find it fishier at this point.

Unvote Vote Streaker

[strike wolf]

Hmm. I have been busy and glancing from time to time but it's true there wasn't anything remotely relevant till yesterday and I didn't have time to make wild conjectures (which always seem like a wasted effort on day 1 anyway).
I find the Tails vote/unvote while defense a bit weird, but something much more classic and obvious is worth pursuing IMO:

Unvote, vote Fir for his intentional infection of this thread. It's scummy

I'm a little reluctant to hop on the pcm wagon, because really there hasn't been much discussion to get into. Except for pokemon.

So I'll just stick with my vote on Fir for derailing us here...

So, on one side there is the blatant skimming that is even more remarkable here in that there are so few posts and this replacement was made obvious in 4 different posts before Nag's last VC. On another there's the manner Streaker prefers to blame one person on the collaborative derailment as Spiesr put it and sticks with that when there's at least some semblance of serious discussion starting. One might say it isn't as bad as those simply not contributing, but I find it fishier at this point.

Unvote Vote Streaker

This looks promising for a day 1 case. unvote vote streaker

[DoomYoshi]

Hmm. I have been busy and glancing from time to time but it's true there wasn't anything remotely relevant till yesterday and I didn't have time to make wild conjectures (which always seem like a wasted effort on day 1 anyway).
I find the Tails vote/unvote while defense a bit weird, but something much more classic and obvious is worth pursuing IMO:

Unvote, vote Fir for his intentional infection of this thread. It's scummy

To be fair, fircoal had 'admitted' to infeccting the thread.

I'm a little reluctant to hop on the pcm wagon, because really there hasn't been much discussion to get into. Except for pokemon.

So I'll just stick with my vote on Fir for derailing us here...

So, on one side there is the blatant skimming that is even more remarkable here in that there are so few posts and this replacement was made obvious in 4 different posts before Nag's last VC. On another there's the manner Streaker prefers to blame one person on the collaborative derailment as Spiesr put it and sticks with that when there's at least some semblance of serious discussion starting. One might say it isn't as bad as those simply not contributing, but I find it fishier at this point.

This second post, where he has upped the ante on the derailment IS fishy. This seems like the most promising of the BWs all day.

Unvote Vote Streaker

unvote vote streaker

[safariguy5]

Between lynching someone who's inactive and someone who acts scummy, I think that day 1 we should go with the scummier one. In any case, prodding the inactives might be a good idea because we're probably going to need their votes to squeeze out enough votes for a possible lynch before deadline.

unvote vote streaker

[got tonkaed]

I dont feel like the day 1 bandwagon is really worth it at this point in the deadline, 72 hours (admittedly a while since it was posted) is not a cause for concern yet. Its not a weekend deadline where people are likely to miss.

If its a cause for a vote then fine, but theres no need to push exactly as of yet.

[spiesr]

Okay, so now we have a little bandwagon going here. Ga7 came up with a, weak but sufficient at this point in the game, reason to vote for Streaker and then strikewolf, doomyoshi, and safariguy hopped on immediately while not really adding any discussion to the case. With 16 players alive 9 votes should be required to lynch so Streaker isn't that close to it yet, but if nothing else happens soon he will likely quickly pick up some of those remaining votes as the deadline scares people into voting for the person with the most votes. Hopefully, at the very least this bandwagon will give us something to look over. But, I am not sure how much value we will be able to get out of it. Pretty much everyone on it will have the same excuse of going for the only case we have as the deadline looms to explain their actions, so it will be difficult to really find any likely scum candidates from just that. Streaker's alignment if he ends up being lynched could be of some help. IE Would ga7 really choose to start this bandwagon rolling on a scum mate?
As for myself, I think that I will wait for the moment only jump on this if it develops or if we get closer to the deadline and it comes down to pile on the bandwagon or get no lynch.

[pancakemix]

Well, I'm here now. What do you want?

While this is probably unfair to ask and I don't honestly expect you to be able to provide, I would like you to make a discussion that somehow leads us to find a good candidate to lynch in the next couple days. I realize that there is no reason to expect you to pull this off when nobody else (myself included) has contributed anything useful, but if you are granting wishes might as well ask...

I'd say the people who voted me were the scummiest (more safari, though). Call it OMGUS, but the votes were baseless. I would also say that the people who thought it odd that I should show up after I got voted were just trying to find something on me.

Then there's the Streaker case. He's made no response to the accusations against him, so I've nothing to say at this point. However, safari seemed very eager to jump at Streaker after he was very eager to jump at me, and there seems to be a pattern developing. I understand wanting a lynch due to deadlines, but the first sign of something amiss is not always the ideal option.

[safariguy5]

Well, no activity has been going on really, and the first hint of a no lynch gets everyone up in arms. Right now what we have is a no lynch by silence. I'm willing to follow anything that looks like a possible case. If no case had developed, I generally go for one of the less active people. Standard play by my count.

[FloresDelMal]

well, like i was intending to say, i have a box full of magic cards lying around in my house in Chile, that were generously donated by my friends who couldn't manage to get me interested past the "ooo that draw is so pretty!'" stage so with this i conclude my contribution to the card games topic that seemed to use up most of the discussion in this game and i'll proceed to contribute with a sound alternative to the case that ga7 put up against streaker; which even thought is as good as it gets for such an uneventful day 1, doesnt "strike" me as suspicious as the case i will expose.

I Vote Mandy because i dont buy that our very own genius of random theories is so very busy with real life that cant share a couple of lines of sheer madness with us, therefore he must be scumarining, for all what i know he might be the most overpowered scum we have ever seen!

disclaimer: even thought this might seem a joke vote i assure you people it is not!
disclaimer 2: i made a tarot reading and this is what the cards hinted!! after all they spoke about a dangerous mustached man!!!
disclaimer 3: i'm very new at tarot reading xD

[FloresDelMal]

after a second thought FOS Streaker he might have a mustache oO and also its true that he skimmed enough for not notice that the chu isnt playing anymore, shame on you nag shame on you

[Haggis_McMutton]

Hmm, the "case" on Streaker seems weak to me, even for D1.

However, Streaker's lack of response, while being active in other games is slightly odd.

Streaker, you out there?

[Streaker]

Hmm, the "case" on Streaker seems weak to me, even for D1.

However, Streaker's lack of response, while being active in other games is slightly odd.

Streaker, you out there?

I'm out here, skimming the games
I'm sorry for my lack of emoticons in my previous post. There seriously wasn't anyone else I was voting on except for chu. My vote staying on chu was purely symbolical.

Also, I'm not lacking response, it's under 24 hours before I reply.
Interesting to see how fast people jumped on me, following their brave leader.

So all I'm being voted for is my vote on a person no longer in the game? There really was just 1 person responsible for derailing here...

I'll Unvote, vote Yoshi and a big nice OMGUS to ya'll on the wagon.

I won't claim until L-2, just because I'm a brat

[strike wolf]

To paraphrase pancake, my distrust in your weak defense is palpable.

Your second post that ga quoted coming after a deadline had been set showed that you did not understand that fircoal wasn't in the game despite more than one post addressing this issue. If you did understand that fircoal wasn't in the game than your post is still just as bad. It shows little attempt to justify any real discussion about what's actually going on with people in the thread and rather focusing on a target not in the game. You claim it's symbolic. Symbolic of what? Sticking with voting someone who isn't in the game once discussion has started isn't really justifiable in my eyes. Now you switch your vote to doomyoshi with little comment on actual reasons and stating an omgus towards everyone else? Your post appears to me like a tangled mix of words in an attempt to guise the fact you were not aware that fircoal had been replaced.

[nagerous]

Vote Count

Strike (1) Spiesr,
Flores (2) Haggis, mandy
Ga7 (1) Commander
Streaker (4) Ga7, Strike Wolf, DoomYoshi, Safari
Haggis (1) Nark, Iliad
Mandy (1) , Flores
Yoshi (1) Streaker

9 to lynch

36 hours until the deadline.

[FloresDelMal]

To paraphrase pancake, my distrust in your weak defense is palpable.

Your second post that ga quoted coming after a deadline had been set showed that you did not understand that fircoal wasn't in the game despite more than one post addressing this issue. If you did understand that fircoal wasn't in the game than your post is still just as bad. It shows little attempt to justify any real discussion about what's actually going on with people in the thread and rather focusing on a target not in the game. ... Your post appears to me like a tangled mix of words in an attempt to guise the fact you were not aware that fircoal had been replaced.

QTF unvote vote streaker

[edocsil]

Yes, deliberated yesterday if I really wanted to bandwagon for that, but that was really blatant. Vote Streaker.

[Iliad]

Hmm, the "case" on Streaker seems weak to me, even for D1.

However, Streaker's lack of response, while being active in other games is slightly odd.

Streaker, you out there?

I'm out here, skimming the games
I'm sorry for my lack of emoticons in my previous post. There seriously wasn't anyone else I was voting on except for chu. My vote staying on chu was purely symbolical.

Also, I'm not lacking response, it's under 24 hours before I reply.
Interesting to see how fast people jumped on me, following their brave leader.

So all I'm being voted for is my vote on a person no longer in the game? There really was just 1 person responsible for derailing here...

I'll Unvote, vote Yoshi and a big nice OMGUS to ya'll on the wagon.

I won't claim until L-2, just because I'm a brat

I was hesistant on the streaker wagon, although I hoped it would create good discussion and so it has. Streaker's defense has definitelly tipped me against him.
The symbolic use is pretty weak and streaker covers the basics of trying to switch the focus onto others, specifically those voting against him. His vote of yoshi only confirms this.

Streaker refused to defend his actions properly or accept he accidentally voted someone not in the game, instead quite scummily trying to shift attention. Vote streaker

Btw I believe that's l-2

[spiesr]

I won't claim until L-2, just because I'm a brat.

Well, you have successfully made us waste some time waiting for the votes to tick up but they have reached your requested level now. So you had better hurry up and claim and make a real defense of some sort. The longer you dawdle at this point the less chance we have have of finding another candidate before the deadline if we end up believing your claim. You really ought to have made your full defense and possibly claim in your last post as it was inevitable that the extra votes would come in.

[Commander9]

Okay, I'll hopefully have enough time tonight to start reading and I'd like to post some thoughts.

[Streaker]

Right. So this game has been in joke vote, and been completely derailed, and you expect me to make a decent vote? I stuck with my fir vote because of said reasons. It would have been better to start hunting myself, admittedly.

As for my claim, you are talking to Larry Sellers. A real brat
I have a night action allowing me to find flavour about a player.
Win condition is standard for town.

My vote on Doom was pretty good, because of the speed the wagon developped. More then 1 person seemed just too happy to hop on.
There's still plenty of time to switch and find another target btw.

[DoomYoshi]

I am happy to get some semblance of a lynch. If that makes me seem 'happy' fair enough. I am not sure I believe that claim. Who is Larry Sellers again? Is he the landlord?