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if you are eliminated in any multiplayer game

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:17 pm
by devilsnyankees
CC should take away the points from you right then and there. you should not lose more or less points based on what the other players do in other games. if you are eliminated and another person, who is still in that game loses points because of another game that he is playing, you should not lose more points because the other person became closer in rank to you as the current game, that you were just elininated in, continues to go on

Re: if you are eliminated in any multiplayer game

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:21 pm
by detlef
devilsnyankees wrote:CC should take away the points from you right then and there. you should not lose more or less points based on what the other players do in other games. if you are eliminated and another person, who is still in that game loses points because of another game that he is playing, you should not lose more points because the other person became closer in rank to you as the current game, that you were just elininated in, continues to go on
Well, how will you determine how many points you lose? Also, play terminator, that's exactly how it works.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:22 pm
by KoE_Sirius
They already have this option...Its called terminator

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:27 pm
by davelim
terminator scoring gives you points for people you kill, not for winning the game. What i believe the person was proposing is that when you lose, your points should be snapshotted, and when the winner wins uses those points in calculations. What they don't want is say you get into a game with 1000 and lose, and for whatever reason the two players just build and build for 3-4 years, meanwhile you managed to get up to 5000 pts, and finally they have their mega war, say they are still at 1000. you would lose more points with the current system, which would seem broken, you are being penalized more for a loss you had when you weren't good

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:29 pm
by billval3
The idea makes sense to me.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:06 pm
by Velvecarrots
This can work both ways. Maybe by the time a player wins a game they had already gained 500 points and then you end up losing less points then you would have. Accept the fact that it will even out over time.

Davelim indirectly said that in time players generally tend to get better and therefore will achieve higher scores over time. So more often than not players GAIN points in the amount of time between the time you're eliminated and the time the game is finished.

Re: if you are eliminated in any multiplayer game

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:15 pm
by owenshooter
devilsnyankees wrote:waaaa!! WAAAAA!!! waaaaa!!! waaaaaa!!! waaaaaaaa!!! boo hoo!!! waaa! waaaaaa!! waaaaa!!!!


can someone translate this for me? i don't know what the thread is about...
i have a difficult time reading crybaby...-0

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:37 pm
by Ditocoaf
Even if devilsnyankee's post is hard to understand, davelim explains the point well. Call it whining if you wish, but scoring would be more accurate if the calculations used your score entering a game rather than your score by the time the game ends. I support this as a recommendation for change.

And to the person above me: If you don't have anything to say about the topic, why even post? I have a hard time reading a**hole, but I seem to manage.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:18 pm
by jimboston
Ditocoaf wrote:Even if devilsnyankee's post is hard to understand, davelim explains the point well. Call it whining if you wish, but scoring would be more accurate if the calculations used your score entering a game rather than your score by the time the game ends. I support this as a recommendation for change.

And to the person above me: If you don't have anything to say about the topic, why even post? I have a hard time reading a**hole, but I seem to manage.


Ooooooooooooo!

He got you there Owen! Bam!

I agree with both points... this thread is both crying and a legitimate discussion about point allocation at the same time.

See it's crying because you can lose or win both more or less depending on how other people change ranks during the course of a game. In all likelihood... if you play enough games... these opposing forces will even out.

I'm guessing the original poster had a game where this caused him to lose more points than he otherwise would have.

I still get a kick out of how hung-up people are on here about points. Yes... I want to win, and yes I expect my point total to increase as I win more. I don't obsess over a handful of points here or there.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:20 pm
by jimboston
Velvecarrots wrote:This can work both ways. Maybe by the time a player wins a game they had already gained 500 points and then you end up losing less points then you would have. Accept the fact that it will even out over time.


Sorry... I couldn't help posting my thought B4 I read the whole thread.

Either that or I like stealing other people's ideas. :idea: :D

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:35 am
by pmchugh
hmm is it just me or does it seem like the original poster, davelim and ditocoat are all the same person? the last two have both only had 1 post they are all arguing the same point only one of them has an avatar which is just a strange blue thing and all there names begin with d

maybe im just being stupid but seems a few too many concidences.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:46 am
by Ditocoaf
I assure you I am a different person from both of them. I admit my post was a little confident for a first post, but I've been in several internet communities, and don't bother with the "shy newbie" phase anymore. The fact that three newer players agree might mean that experienced players are used to the status quo, wheras newer players bring a fresh eye.

But let me urge this thread back on topic. This seems a very legitimate suggestion to me, and I'd hope the CC community treats it as such.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:09 pm
by Adino
I dont see much need for this, I have been burned many times because of my rank going up after a game started, I have gone up 8 ranks in 150 games For one game I started as a Sergeant 1st Class and ended as a Major, That was the first game I started when I started paying, and needless to say i spent some time playing the game right after that. However all the points I have lost combined would only be around 100 or so. I can make that back with 2 wins. At higher lvls this will be even less important. The only people it really affects are those who are shooting up the scoreboards and have a rank lower than they deserve. And it dosnt even affect them very much.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:57 am
by Ditocoaf
I don't think anybody is claiming that this is a major, glaring flaw, or that it's incredibly important to where scores are completely out of whack. It's just a minor fix for a minor problem, but one that's worth doing. Maybe if the game was still in its first developmental stages this would be insignificant, but a tweak like this is worth paying attention to when there's not really any major bugs.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:04 am
by greenoaks
you gained experience along the way and applied that to your game. so when you lost it you had the ability of a major, you lost points accordingly.

it is not a problem, there is nothing to fix.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:06 am
by frood
But when you are eliminated you still don't know which of the remaining players is going to win the game. So dod you save all the scores of all the players at that time and calculate it when the game is finished. That seems a little complicated.