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Hey Lack, you might want to re-register CC it last time you did it was 2006 .

"Copyright © 2006 by Salamander Software."

does it need to be?

i already stole it.-0

Blitzaholic wrote:does it need to be?

nope. once it is registered it stays that way you don't have to do it every year.

Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come

Thanks for the heads up though!

Twill

Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come

Thanks for the heads up though!

Twill

"COPYRIGHT"

C.

Just remember that two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left and two wrights make an airplane.

yeti_c wrote:

Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come

Thanks for the heads up though!

Twill

"COPYRIGHT"

C.

Thank you yeti_c.


Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.

Well, we are talking American copyright law I think. It's the law.

That way your decedents or parent company can keep the copyright up until the end of that. If you made something that has more staying power then a lifetime + 70 years I think you'd be a household name....

It is a way to take care of your Grand kids

MeDeFe wrote:Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.

Word.

MeDeFe wrote:

yeti_c wrote:

Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come

Thanks for the heads up though!

Twill

"COPYRIGHT"

C.

Thank you yeti_c.


Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.

It is so easy to give away other peoples stuff isnt it? 15 years is the blink of an eye. If you need to read something so bad, buy it.

The 70 years is to encourage new ideas and books not discourage them. If authors cant be assured that they can provide for thier families, they will have to find more secure occupations, and the novels, short stories, whatever will never be written.

I assume you think its for the better of society to make them community property, but it would stifle such writings almost as much as book burning itself.

I disagree. I think that copyright protection is extreme and favours a small group of powerful content owners. These days it rare for a major artist to actually own their own copyright. Putting things in the public domain sooner would be better for society because people will make great books, games, music, movies etc either way.

AAFitz wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

yeti_c wrote:

Twill wrote:Yeah, copywrite exists on all material put into tangible form (this now includes electronic mediums as tangible forms) for the life of the author plus 70 years...technically this happens if the copywrite statement is made or not, as long as the date of creation can be proved. Soooooo the turtle family owns CC for a while to come

Thanks for the heads up though!

Twill

"COPYRIGHT"

C.

Thank you yeti_c.


Now for a derail, 70 years is fucking ridiculous, I have nothing against a person making his money through original works of his own, but only when this person has been dead for 70 years can you freely use the things he created, that's insane. 10 or 15 years after the copyright is easily enough, after that, let people do whatever they want with it, whether it's adapting the thing, distributing it on the internet or whatever.

It is so easy to give away other peoples stuff isnt it? 15 years is the blink of an eye. If you need to read something so bad, buy it.

The 70 years is to encourage new ideas and books not discourage them. If authors cant be assured that they can provide for thier families, they will have to find more secure occupations, and the novels, short stories, whatever will never be written.

I assume you think its for the better of society to make them community property, but it would stifle such writings almost as much as book burning itself.

i completely agree. if i'm not going to be compensated for my efforts. for my blood sweat and tears, why bother?

lackattack wrote:I disagree. I think that copyright protection is extreme and favours a small group of powerful content owners. These days it rare for a major artist to actually own their own copyright. Putting things in the public domain sooner would be better for society because people will make great books, games, music, movies etc either way.

Well, the corporations only own the stuff, because the put up the front money. There is no question, that without that front money, some of the music, books etc, would never be written. Id gladly take an advance for a book, in exchange for the rights to sell it. But since I have no offers of that, I focus on my day job, and the world would never know the eloquent ramblings of AAFitz...

well... some will

copywrite, copyright, next you're going to tell my that lysdexic is the wrong spelling

If you guys would like to have a debate on the pros and cons of copyRIGHT law, head on over to IK and start it there - this thread should technically stay on the topic of CC

It's an interesting area of law though to be sure, especially in the digital age.

If you start it over there, get me started on the legalities of schools using turnitin.com - talk about a legal gray zone of copyright

Twill

Not to mention I believe lack and I have had this exact conversation almost to the letter before...

Sorry...