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Postby khazalid on Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:17 pm

i think some of the accusations are a bit out of hand considering the mods decided there wasnt any real evidence on which to convict him. he handles himself pretty well too around the forums. and if he is eventually found guilty then at least he isnt KRUSHER. people came forward with him eventually, if war was/is doing the same then he will get caught. until then i move that y'all cut him a little slack
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Re: re: warsteiner

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:22 pm

khazalid wrote:i think some of the accusations are a bit out of hand considering the mods decided there wasnt any real evidence on which to convict him. he handles himself pretty well too around the forums. and if he is eventually found guilty then at least he isnt KRUSHER. people came forward with him eventually, if war was/is doing the same then he will get caught. until then i move that y'all cut him a little slack
cheaters get no slack. and a cheater that continues to do so, after being warned twice and blocked from players, needs to be banned. warsteiner and bladin knew exactly what they were going to do to Poo Maker before they joined that game. it was planned out.
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Postby khazalid on Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:24 pm

possibly. think about it though, how many times have you been in an escalating game and had someone pull out a stupid move like that?
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Postby Warsteiner on Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:26 pm

Thanks khazalid, as you can see from all the games I play I need no one to help me win as I have no problem winning at all.

JR Come on seriously would you believe that yourself? I just beat Poo the game before that.. why would I need anyone to help me to beat him?

To quote BladiN "I rather beat you than anyone else." This quote is supported by the fact that he backstabbed me to win the BR in which we were with only 3 left (he teamed up with the other guy and took me down beyond repair)



I'm afraid this topic will end in more accusations, I do appreciate the gesture mate.

I didn't want to defend myself in this topic however JR made me do it, put it in italics for that reason. for real reasoning just look at the other topic
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Postby khazalid on Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:41 pm

np war - i have never played you or spoken to you, im just putting forward something unbiased. theres a bit of evidence that you cant ignore but i agree with the mods in saying not enough for all these posts and cries of score resets and stripped premiums.
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Postby oVo on Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:21 pm

I've played Warsteiner a few times and never witnessed any improprieties
beyond the fact that the sorry bastard can kick some ass.

So if you are afraid of getting your ass kicked I recommend avoiding him,
but if you appreciate a good tough competitive game seek him out.

I suggest all doubters play him before jumping to conclusions.
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Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:34 am

i played war too a few times, and he always has played fair from what i have seen and is a good player, if he cheats, he somehow does it to put a spell on the dice :lol:
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Freestyle

Postby Prankcall on Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:07 am

I'm almost postitive u..Khaz and Blitz have never played him in freestyle..That's what this is all about not private sequntial..I mean half this damn site plays strictly team games or private.This whole thing is about his playing freestyle..And I watched his games before more than 2 or 3 ...It seems funny to me..Not sure if he is cheating..I cant say he is but i surely wont say he isnt..It just makes no sense the move Bladin made in that game..Note i was watching that game..But then i remember hearing about his past secret alliances so i did some looking and these 2 War and Bladin have played numerous games together ( doubles)..Which leads me to believe they more than just know each other..Sorry man I have no respect for cheaters and i personally tthink u are.>While i dont doubt ur skill in able to win i do doubt ur not cheating.. Krusher was good when it came to this also yet he still cheated so dont use the i can win on my own ...
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Re: Freestyle

Postby InkL0sed on Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:11 am

Prankcall wrote:I'm almost postitive u..Khaz and Blitz have never played him in freestyle..That's what this is all about not private sequntial..I mean half this damn site plays strictly team games or private.This whole thing is about his playing freestyle..And I watched his games before more than 2 or 3 ...It seems funny to me..Not sure if he is cheating..I cant say he is but i surely wont say he isnt..It just makes no sense the move Bladin made in that game..Note i was watching that game..But then i remember hearing about his past secret alliances so i did some looking and these 2 War and Bladin have played numerous games together ( doubles)..Which leads me to believe they more than just know each other..Sorry man I have no respect for cheaters and i personally tthink u are.>While i dont doubt ur skill in able to win i do doubt ur not cheating.. Krusher was good when it came to this also yet he still cheated so dont use the i can win on my own ...


Maybe if you want people to take you seriously, you could use some proper punctuation. This looks like some kind of stream-of-consciousness spew right now.
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Re: Freestyle

Postby khazalid on Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:52 am

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Prankcall wrote:I'm almost postitive u..Khaz and Blitz have never played him in freestyle..That's what this is all about not private sequntial..I mean half this damn site plays strictly team games or private.This whole thing is about his playing freestyle..And I watched his games before more than 2 or 3 ...It seems funny to me..Not sure if he is cheating..I cant say he is but i surely wont say he isnt..It just makes no sense the move Bladin made in that game..Note i was watching that game..But then i remember hearing about his past secret alliances so i did some looking and these 2 War and Bladin have played numerous games together ( doubles)..Which leads me to believe they more than just know each other..Sorry man I have no respect for cheaters and i personally tthink u are.>While i dont doubt ur skill in able to win i do doubt ur not cheating.. Krusher was good when it came to this also yet he still cheated so dont use the i can win on my own ...


Maybe if you want people to take you seriously, you could use some proper punctuation. This looks like some kind of stream-of-consciousness spew right now.


to be fair prank's excellent play kinda speaks for itself. no punctuation required for attentiveness. have you considered joining the grammar nazi clan/usergroup/thing?
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Postby Warsteiner on Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:08 pm

I wrote a full reply defending myself, now deleted it. screw it I'm done defending myself against you blind retards, I've explained it enough. I can't believe you even believe this bullshit Prank, makes you a whiner like the rest of them. I thought you were a nice guy, we even played doubles together for crying out loud.
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Re: Freestyle

Postby firth4eva on Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:10 pm

khazalid wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
Prankcall wrote:I'm almost postitive u..Khaz and Blitz have never played him in freestyle..That's what this is all about not private sequntial..I mean half this damn site plays strictly team games or private.This whole thing is about his playing freestyle..And I watched his games before more than 2 or 3 ...It seems funny to me..Not sure if he is cheating..I cant say he is but i surely wont say he isnt..It just makes no sense the move Bladin made in that game..Note i was watching that game..But then i remember hearing about his past secret alliances so i did some looking and these 2 War and Bladin have played numerous games together ( doubles)..Which leads me to believe they more than just know each other..Sorry man I have no respect for cheaters and i personally tthink u are.>While i dont doubt ur skill in able to win i do doubt ur not cheating.. Krusher was good when it came to this also yet he still cheated so dont use the i can win on my own ...


Maybe if you want people to take you seriously, you could use some proper punctuation. This looks like some kind of stream-of-consciousness spew right now.


to be fair prank's excellent play kinda speaks for itself. no punctuation required for attentiveness. have you considered joining the grammar nazi clan/usergroup/thing?


He is in it.
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Re: Freestyle

Postby KoE_Sirius on Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:18 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
Prankcall wrote:I'm almost postitive u..Khaz and Blitz have never played him in freestyle..That's what this is all about not private sequntial..I mean half this damn site plays strictly team games or private.This whole thing is about his playing freestyle..And I watched his games before more than 2 or 3 ...It seems funny to me..Not sure if he is cheating..I cant say he is but i surely wont say he isnt..It just makes no sense the move Bladin made in that game..Note i was watching that game..But then i remember hearing about his past secret alliances so i did some looking and these 2 War and Bladin have played numerous games together ( doubles)..Which leads me to believe they more than just know each other..Sorry man I have no respect for cheaters and i personally tthink u are.>While i dont doubt ur skill in able to win i do doubt ur not cheating.. Krusher was good when it came to this also yet he still cheated so dont use the i can win on my own ...


Maybe if you want people to take you seriously, you could use some proper punctuation. This looks like some kind of stream-of-consciousness spew right now.
I understand what PC is saying.This aint skool and it aint an english lesson.So Punctuate all you like. :arrow:
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Postby friendjonny on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:20 pm

In all the games I've looked at of warsteiners (in which there were cheating accusations), I've seen no evidence to support such accusatsions. I wish people would stop whining. Warsteiner gained his rank through skill. He has received from me 1 of only 2 positive feedbacks I've left to players based on skill (funny thing is I beat him both times I played him but he's the one next in line for conqueror rather than me). I left him his feedback back when he was ranked sergent (don't remember if he was first class or not). It is unfortunate that he has been blocked from playing with players he enjoys being in games with based on unfounded accusations.
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Postby InkL0sed on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:56 pm

Maybe it's just me, but I hardly understood anything in that post.

Ah well, at least I have a clan to run back to! :lol:
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Postby TheBro on Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:14 pm

Warsteiner wrote:I wrote a full reply defending myself, now deleted it. screw it I'm done defending myself against you blind retards, I've explained it enough. I can't believe you even believe this bullshit Prank, makes you a whiner like the rest of them. I thought you were a nice guy, we even played doubles together for crying out loud.



He wasn't really whining. He basically stated he was unsure, but wouldn't rule anything out. I see that as quite logical...

Personally, I do not believe you are cheating, but I do think Bladin auto attacked poo to give you the game. You are not guilty, and he isn't really guilty either.... Just really gay.
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Postby friendjonny on Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:23 pm

alright, let me simplify for clarity

- I have reviewed some of warsteiner's games (games in which people said he was cheating).
- The "evidence" people put forth as support to say that warsteiner is a cheater is useless. I have reviewed the same evidence (I do admit I haven't looked at all of it, just some of it) and it doesn't prove anything.
- I wish people would stop whining.
- Warsteiner is a skillful player.
- It is unfortunate that he has been blocked from playing with certain players based on these false accusations.
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Why do I bother

Postby Prankcall on Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:04 pm

Look let me say this much..I am not a whiner and i personally dont care one way or the other..I admit and will publicly say War is a great freestyle player no doubting that and to say otherwise would be a lie..I am not jealous of him my score is just as good as his right now actually a tad better..I will say this Krusher was a good freestyle player was he not? Note i edited this too say that the Bro made good sense >Maybe it wasnt cheating by War but Bladin having known War becuz they play dub games had no qualms about suiciding into Poo knowing War was going to clean up..Like i said i know from personal expirence that sometimes dumb things like this are done..But I'd advise u not to play doubles freestyle so much with one player possibly to prevent these kinda allegations..Admit War it looks funny when that kinda thing happens..I say it looks funny becuz u guys plyed a shitload of double freestyle games even 1 vs 1 alot..It just looks bad man...But by all means dont let CC as a society dictate what u play or whom u play it with..If people get caught up in this Alter-ego called CC and take to heart the allegations made at them well then this is obviously to much for some1 to handle..Hope everything works out for u
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Postby Warsteiner on Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:23 pm

you're absolutely right that its better to seperate doubles from public games and not play publics with your doubs partner. I am avoiding them since bladin became my regular doubs partner to avoid accusations. This was one of the 2 occasions we were still in the same game I believe. One occasion Bladin Stole a kill right in front of my eyes taking down a lot of my armies first and won the game I would've won. The other occasion is the one we're talking about here with Poo. I didnt intend to be in the same game as bladin, he just beat me to it joining poo's game before I did (and i already promised Poo i'd join.) I wasnt planning on running away from that game as I know I'm a fair player. Thanks for the compliments prank I do still believe you're slightly better than I am.
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Postby friendjonny on Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:29 pm

good stuff prankcall

my brother plays here on CC but I haven't been in a game with him yet because I don't want any allegations to ever be possible for things like multi accounting or other forms of cheating
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Postby oVo on Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:44 pm

krusher the " good freestyle player" was busted, he was/is a cheat.
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Postby krusher on Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:15 pm

oVo wrote:krusher the " good freestyle player" was busted, he was/is a cheat.
you must be thinking of my evil twin brother I would never do something like that :lol:
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Postby wacicha on Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:23 pm

God I hope I never get that high in the rankings--- I would hate to be thought of as a cheat... Even that would be very depressing.

I hope the mods handle this quickly -- But even if he is found innocent no one will look at him the same.. I applaud the defenders. To the accussers there is a place for that and I stay out of there. Mainly because I want no bias in who I play..

I once had a group of guys fromm a clan join my games and they knocked me all the way to PFC were they cheating? Maybe they were I even suspected it. But all I did was put them all on my first to get out list.

Have I played them since yes. do they play the same no. I have even come to respect one of them very much.

MY POINT IS play or don't play him but accuse him in the correct forum.

do not attack in MY General Discussion forum or I will move it.
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Re: re: warsteiner

Postby oggiss on Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:52 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
khazalid wrote:i think some of the accusations are a bit out of hand considering the mods decided there wasnt any real evidence on which to convict him. he handles himself pretty well too around the forums. and if he is eventually found guilty then at least he isnt KRUSHER. people came forward with him eventually, if war was/is doing the same then he will get caught. until then i move that y'all cut him a little slack
cheaters get no slack. and a cheater that continues to do so, after being warned twice and blocked from players, needs to be banned. warsteiner and bladin knew exactly what they were going to do to Poo Maker before they joined that game. it was planned out.


Says the one that plays 80% of his games 1 vs 1, not premium, low ranks -_-

If anything would be cheating that would...
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Re: re: warsteiner

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:53 pm

oggiss wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
khazalid wrote:i think some of the accusations are a bit out of hand considering the mods decided there wasnt any real evidence on which to convict him. he handles himself pretty well too around the forums. and if he is eventually found guilty then at least he isnt KRUSHER. people came forward with him eventually, if war was/is doing the same then he will get caught. until then i move that y'all cut him a little slack
cheaters get no slack. and a cheater that continues to do so, after being warned twice and blocked from players, needs to be banned. warsteiner and bladin knew exactly what they were going to do to Poo Maker before they joined that game. it was planned out.


Says the one that plays 80% of his games 1 vs 1, not premium, low ranks -_-

If anything would be cheating that would...
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