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Are you allowed to play on someone elses account?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:35 am
by GoVegan
I understand babysitting for games that are already started... but what about starting new games to get their rank up?

Isnt that cheating?


Just curious

Re: Are you allowed to play on someone elses account?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:37 am
by DaGip
GoVegan wrote:I understand babysitting for games that are already started... but what about starting new games to get their rank up?

Isnt that cheating?


Just curious


If you babysit an account, you cannot start any new games on that account. And if they start a new game on your account to increase their own points...that is quite definitely cheating!

If this has happened to you, document everything on the cheat and abuse form.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:39 am
by GoVegan
Well its definatly happening now... i dont want to be a whistle blower but how serious of an offense is this?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:43 am
by DaGip
GoVegan wrote:Well its definatly happening now... i dont want to be a whistle blower but how serious of an offense is this?


Pretty serious, I would say. I would fill out a form and submit it immediately in this forum so that I or someone else doesn't get this guy to babysit for us!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:46 am
by DaGip
Unwritten Rules
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts.


Here is CC Unwritten rules to conduct...you just shouldn't do it. Hijacking an account to increase one's rank and points is completely considered cheating. Babysitters are not supposed to start any new games!

Another serious note, this guy could get you in trouble for being a Multi! So I would report it right away, right now.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:00 am
by john1099
GoVegan wrote:Well its definatly happening now... i dont want to be a whistle blower but how serious of an offense is this?


Is he winning the games?
If he's winning- not that bad!
If he's losing- pretty serious!

On a serious note, don't listen to Ga, if you really feel that he is overstepping the boundaries, simply PM him, and ask him to either a) stop, or b) quit watching your account (since you're back!)

If he continues to do it, change your password, and, if he hacks your account, then tell someone on the staff!

Thanks,
-John

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:15 am
by DaGip
john1099 wrote:
GoVegan wrote:Well its definatly happening now... i dont want to be a whistle blower but how serious of an offense is this?


Is he winning the games?
If he's winning- not that bad!
If he's losing- pretty serious!

On a serious note, don't listen to Ga, if you really feel that he is overstepping the boundaries, simply PM him, and ask him to either a) stop, or b) quit watching your account (since you're back!)

If he continues to do it, change your password, and, if he hacks your account, then tell someone on the staff!

Thanks,
-John


Dude! You cannot babysit someone's account and then start new games! Especially to start games so that you can use it to increase your own rank and points! You missed what he was saying, this guy is starting games not to increase the owner of the accounts points but to increase his own accounts rank! This is total BS. I guess you can pm the guy and tell him to stop it, but the guy just screwed with your points and rank to his own benefit...that is deserving of a report as far as I am concerned.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:22 am
by GoVegan
he isnt in my account, he is in somone elses.

no huge deal though.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:25 am
by DaGip
GoVegan wrote:he isnt in my account, he is in somone elses.

no huge deal though.


He can be Multi-ing against other players then. I would PM the guy then, and recommend that he stops doing it. The owner of the account should also get involved.

I guess since you are not the owner of the account, you really can't do anything...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:21 am
by GoVegan
all taken care of... no harm intended... (just like i thought)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:33 pm
by john1099
GoVegan wrote:all taken care of... no harm intended... (just like i thought)


Hmm, GA, just so you know, this was solved WITHOUT involving the moderators, allowing them a bit of peace and quiet, not having to deal with this case of "I didn't realize what I was doing"

Thanks though for attempting to make the moderators lives hell, and giving them added work!

-John

Re: Are you allowed to play on someone elses account?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:00 pm
by AndrewB
DaGip wrote:If you babysit an account, you cannot start any new games on that account


Who made that rule?

As a tournament organizer, I cannot wait for people to come back from holiday and delay the whole tournament. Therefore I always request the baby-sitting party to join any new games, while main account is away.

I don't see how that can cause any problems???

Re: Are you allowed to play on someone elses account?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:30 pm
by firth4eva
AndrewB wrote:
DaGip wrote:If you babysit an account, you cannot start any new games on that account


Who made that rule?

As a tournament organizer, I cannot wait for people to come back from holiday and delay the whole tournament. Therefore I always request the baby-sitting party to join any new games, while main account is away.

I don't see how that can cause any problems???

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:54 pm
by wicked
Temporary account babysitters are allowed to join TOURNAMENT games, and tourney games ONLY. There was a problem with people joining non-tourney games, so we made this clarification. Since tourneys are often a long-term thing and deadbeating a tourney or making others wait creates problems, we allow this exception to the policy.

The nature of a babysitter is a temporary situation, e.g. a few days to a week maybe. It is NOT OK to let anyone take over your account to use your premium or get away from their old name or anything like that. If we see a "long-term" babysitter has taken over an account, we'll shut it down.

If you're unsure if something is legal or not, please do PM a moderator FIRST and we'll advise you. That's what we're here for.

If anything is unclear about what I've posted here, please ask.

(moved to Q&A, since it's not cheating)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:05 pm
by AndrewB
wicked wrote:Temporary account babysitters are allowed to join TOURNAMENT games, and tourney games ONLY. There was a problem with people joining non-tourney games, so we made this clarification. Since tourneys are often a long-term thing and deadbeating a tourney or making others wait creates problems, we allow this exception to the policy.

The nature of a babysitter is a temporary situation, e.g. a few days to a week maybe. It is NOT OK to let anyone take over your account to use your premium or get away from their old name or anything like that. If we see a "long-term" babysitter has taken over an account, we'll shut it down.

If you're unsure if something is legal or not, please do PM a moderator FIRST and we'll advise you. That's what we're here for.

If anything is unclear about what I've posted here, please ask.

(moved to Q&A, since it's not cheating)


Thanks a lot for this clarification.

Is it possible to update the Rules section with those statements, please?

Otherwise people have no way of knowing what is legal and what is not.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:17 pm
by wicked
It is in the FAQ (under HELP up top).

FAQ wrote:
15. Can I let another player take a turn for me when I am away from the game?

You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game. It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. Account babysitters should not start or join new games, with the exception of tournament games.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:06 pm
by GoVegan
Thanks for everyones help with this!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:18 pm
by wicked
The mods are here to answer questions, so ask away. 8) Often the very knowledgable community pipes up before we even have a chance to see the thread though.