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WW Western Front/Siegfried defence.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:07 pm
by firstholliday
I am playing a dubs in ww wf where our opp hold siegfried defence (after the drop) We can attack them but not conquer...
Is there anyway we can brake it? (according to the map we can't)
Just can't believe that there is a map, with 3 spots, no borders and a 5!!! army bonus.
What is it that we don't see?
Thanks
1st

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:10 pm
by ParadiceCity9
you can attack from western germany or france...

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:29 pm
by firstholliday
"ParadiceCity9"]you can attack from western germany or france...
Huh? from where then?


Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:37 pm
by Qwert
You can attack Sigfried Defence,tell me number of Games what you play.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:45 pm
by firstholliday
qwert wrote:You can attack Sigfried Defence,tell me number of Games what you play.
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Re: WW Western Front/Siegfried defence.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:07 pm
by BaldAdonis
firstholliday wrote:I am playing a dubs in ww wf where our opp hold siegfried defence (after the drop) We can attack them but not conquer...
Is there anyway we can brake it? (according to the map we can't)
Just can't believe that there is a map, with 3 spots, no borders and a 5!!! army bonus.
What is it that we don't see?
Thanks
1st
There are so many things wrong with that....
Your opponent conquered England in the first round. England cannot be invaded. You can bombard it from three places, one of which (Holland) you held, and now your partner holds. It does not get a 5 bonus either.
Re: WW Western Front/Siegfried defence.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:12 pm
by firstholliday
BaldAdonis wrote:firstholliday wrote:I am playing a dubs in ww wf where our opp hold siegfried defence (after the drop) We can attack them but not conquer...
Is there anyway we can brake it? (according to the map we can't)
Just can't believe that there is a map, with 3 spots, no borders and a 5!!! army bonus.
What is it that we don't see?
Thanks
1st
There are so many things wrong with that....
Your opponent conquered England in the first round. England cannot be invaded. You can bombard it from three places, one of which (Holland) you held, and now your partner holds. It does not get a 5 bonus either.
Yes you can bombard it but not conquer it.... what is the use?

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:16 pm
by firstholliday
Oh and yeah it's a 3 bonus and called brittain, you are right. BUT can you brake it?
Re: WW Western Front/Siegfried defence.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:17 pm
by BaldAdonis
firstholliday wrote:Yes you can bombard it but not conquer it.... what is the use?
Britain's useless, always has been. The map is just being realistic.
Your opponent is using it to get 3 armies per turn. You should probably make use of the bombardments to stop that.
Re: WW Western Front/Siegfried defence.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:22 pm
by RobinJ
BaldAdonis wrote:firstholliday wrote:Yes you can bombard it but not conquer it.... what is the use?
Britain's useless, always has been. The map is just being realistic.
Your opponent is using it to get 3 armies per turn. You should probably make use of the bombardments to stop that.
Britain useless!?
It is though to add authenticity to the map. Germany couldn't take Britain in WWII, only bomb it, so that's the only way to kill players in Britain. Once neutralised, it cannot be taken
WWII map

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:45 pm
by Boneman
How can you break Britain if you cannot eliminate anyone from it...or am I missing something? If I understand correctly, you can only knock down an opponents numbers, but not take over their territory. So how then can you break the bonus if an opponent has all 3 territories in Britain?

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:48 pm
by Qwert
firstholliday
1267189
I look yours game and i dont se any problem,but bigest problem is that you play doubles,and you can not blame me for these,because i dont create map to play only doubles.
When you play standard games Sigfried Defence terittory you can attack from 6 terittory(4 from Western Germany and 2 from France)also Britain can bombard from 3 terittory(1 from West Germany and 2 from Sigfried Defence).So yours Double tactic whas bad and yours oponent play very good so better luck next time.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:52 pm
by Qwert
Boneman
Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 2
Location: United States
Posted: 27 Nov 2007 23:45 Post subject: WWII map
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How can you break Britain if you cannot eliminate anyone from it...or am I missing something? If I understand correctly, you can only knock down an opponents numbers, but not take over their territory. So how then can you break the bonus if an opponent has all 3 territories in Britain?
When you attack oponent Army on Britain,and after yours sucesfull attack insted conquer you anihiliate terittory and these terittory become neutral,if you bombard all three Britain terittory you anihiliate all Britain and yours oponent is eliminate from Britain.

Posted:
Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:10 pm
by pimphawks70
its a feature of the map!

Posted:
Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:21 am
by owenshooter
*shaking my head in amazement over how stupid the initial question was*

Posted:
Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:43 am
by jiminski
owenshooter wrote:*shaking my head in amazement over how stupid the initial question was*
I don't think it's a stupid question. It was about a novel dynamic which has not appeared before.
If people can't ask the map maker questions without being pilloried then people will learn more slowly!