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Dice - BOB - Ajax

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:11 pm
by Blumoki
Since the Change the Dice have become Negative not just on my turns but everybody's in the games im playing.

So.... Is it the Bob Script or the Ajax fucking with the dice coding?

We need to sort this out because im not enjoying playing at the moment. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:13 pm
by cena-rules
DICE ARE RANDOM

THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE

NOW GO AWAY

LOCK 'ER DOWN GUYS

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:14 pm
by Blumoki
cena-rules wrote:DICE ARE RANDOM


Randomly Bad

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:15 pm
by cena-rules
Blumoki wrote:
cena-rules wrote:DICE ARE RANDOM


Randomly Bad


and at times randomly good

Re: Dice - BOB - Ajax

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:10 pm
by hwhrhett
Blumoki wrote:Since the Change the Dice have become Negative not just on my turns but everybody's in the games im playing.

So.... Is it the Bob Script or the Ajax fucking with the dice coding?

We need to sort this out because im not enjoying playing at the moment. :roll:


they cant be bad for everybody in your games, because for every losing dice, there is an equal number of winning dice, in order for someone to lose, it requires someone winning.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:25 pm
by jiminski
I have noticed that after a long period of indifferent dice (neither good nor bad) i often have a good period, followed by a bad period! and then possibly another indifferent period and then a slightly longer or shorter bad or good period! and so on the cycle persists!

hmmmmm this can't just be Random!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:27 pm
by Rocketry
cena-rules wrote:DICE ARE RANDOM

THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE

NOW GO AWAY

LOCK 'ER DOWN GUYS


well said

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:11 pm
by Joho
Well I am in a game now where for the 4th or 5th time in 3 days I have attacked with 4-5 times the amount of armies on a country only to kill maybe one guy. Example from that game now:

I attacked with 12 to a 3 man spot and after auto got finished I have 2 and he still has three. Because of that complete and utter crap leaving me with 10 loses in a row I failed to finish a guy off and opened both my borders to my opponents. His cards will now easily be scooped up, probably by some guy attacking with 4 just to add to the bs, and without those armies to fort MY borders I am gonna eat the set most likely. Basically one round of worst case scenario dice rolls and I have gone from upper hand to probably losing the game.

Everytime something like that happens I close the damn game window with the intention of not playing this game anymore. However I still come back and I still join new games because there are times where I will do nothing but win rolls in a round. I think I see a deffinate lean towards defensive dice being stacked, but it is universal and goes for EVERYONE on defence.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:56 pm
by jiminski
Joho wrote:.... I think I see a deffinate lean towards defensive dice being stacked, but it is universal and goes for EVERYONE on defence.


it goes towards the fact that the crap things in life are seared across our minds by a branding-iron. A branding-iron in the shape of a small schoolboy getting up to solve a maths problem on the blackboard. Only to find that his trousers fall down, revealing his over-sized, hole-ridden, womble Y-fronts to the whole class. (Including Jenny Catchpole.. so i hear!)


huhhumm! anyway the point is that we remember the bad more vividly than the good .. it's a self preservation mechanism! It stops us killing ourselves and helps us procreate.

the other thing is .. and this appears to be forgotten most of the time .... we only see every roll from the attacking point of view! how can we have a subjective view of the defensive rolls when we only see a fraction of them!?

i'll be back to argue against Ajax when my dice are a little worse!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:05 pm
by firstholliday
jiminski wrote:
Joho wrote:.... I think I see a deffinate lean towards defensive dice being stacked, but it is universal and goes for EVERYONE on defence.


it goes towards the fact that the crap things in life sear across our minds like a branding iron in the shape of a small schoolboy who gets up to solve and maths problem on the blackboard. Only to find that his trousers fall down, revealing his over-sized, hole-ridden, womble Y-fronts to the whole class. (Including Jenny Catchpole.. so i hear!)


huhhumm ! anyway the point is that we remember the bad more vividly than the good .. it's a self preservation mechanism! It stop us killing ourselves and helps us procreate.

the other thing is .. and this appears to be forgotten most of the time .... we only see every roll form the attacking point of view! how can we have a subjective view of the defensive rolls when we only see a fraction of them!?

i'll be back to argue against Ajax when my dice are a little worse!



I wish you focused more on our games then bla de dieblalalalalala all over this forum.....

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:06 pm
by jiminski
firstholliday wrote:
jiminski wrote:
Joho wrote:.... I think I see a deffinate lean towards defensive dice being stacked, but it is universal and goes for EVERYONE on defence.


it goes towards the fact that the crap things in life sear across our minds like a branding iron in the shape of a small schoolboy who gets up to solve and maths problem on the blackboard. Only to find that his trousers fall down, revealing his over-sized, hole-ridden, womble Y-fronts to the whole class. (Including Jenny Catchpole.. so i hear!)


huhhumm ! anyway the point is that we remember the bad more vividly than the good .. it's a self preservation mechanism! It stop us killing ourselves and helps us procreate.

the other thing is .. and this appears to be forgotten most of the time .... we only see every roll form the attacking point of view! how can we have a subjective view of the defensive rolls when we only see a fraction of them!?

i'll be back to argue against Ajax when my dice are a little worse!



I wish you focused more on our games then bla de dieblalalalalala all over this forum.....


hehe what happened to your good mood? sod off to Thailand already!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:09 pm
by Herakilla
i have noticed that with the newest ver of ajax bob ive rolled all 6s

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:42 pm
by firstholliday
thailand?? did someone call me??

yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Random.org hacked

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:36 pm
by evster
I have often given thought to the so-called 'whimsy' of the dice.

I did a little research and Slashdot has a story http://www.slashdot.org about random.org having been hacked. Interestingly, the impact was more or less undetected and unattributed.

No one at CERN or the ever astute readers at slashdot had any idea why there was a skew on the random numbers generated that augmented the positivity of certain random numbers in direct correlation to the number of months of PAID membership at conquerclub.

So, in essence, the more money you pay to Conquer club, the better your dice, which in effect robs points from freebie members to give to the people who pay for the site. The haves, have, the have-nots, not.

In what appears to be a related development the website mathmaticus.com reviewed an extensive analysis of research in multilateral subsequent para-calculus and came to the conclusion that random.org was also influence by threads created which suggested that Random.org was not random.

this is complete nonsense - but I want to see how many people will jump at the bait

Re: Random.org hacked

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:45 am
by Robinette
evster wrote:I have often given thought to the so-called 'whimsy' of the dice.

I did a little research and Slashdot has a story http://www.slashdot.org about random.org having been hacked. Interestingly, the impact was more or less undetected and unattributed.

No one at CERN or the ever astute readers at slashdot had any idea why there was a skew on the random numbers generated that augmented the positivity of certain random numbers in direct correlation to the number of months of PAID membership at conquerclub.

So, in essence, the more money you pay to Conquer club, the better your dice, which in effect robs points from freebie members to give to the people who pay for the site. The haves, have, the have-nots, not.

In what appears to be a related development the website mathmaticus.com reviewed an extensive analysis of research in multilateral subsequent para-calculus and came to the conclusion that random.org was also influence by threads created which suggested that Random.org was not random.

this is complete nonsense - but I want to see how many people will jump at the bait

That was random...


.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:55 pm
by autoload
Indeed it was!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:33 pm
by owenshooter
*shaking my head in disbelief*

first question, why do they even let the special ed kids play conquer
club at school?-0

Re: Dice - BOB - Ajax

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:04 pm
by graeme89
Blumoki wrote:Since the Change the Dice have become Negative not just on my turns but everybody's in the games im playing.

So.... Is it the Bob Script or the Ajax fucking with the dice coding?

We need to sort this out because im not enjoying playing at the moment. :roll:


Please no more dice complaints. The dice are from a random generator. If you can only win games from favourable dice then please look elsewhere. This is a website for people who who can win over the odds. It is not your right to win. You have to fight your ass off to win in this website, which is why its a good website, my advice is to hunker down and battle every game, fight the dice, and gain ground slowly

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:08 pm
by The Weird One
Rocketry wrote:
cena-rules wrote:DICE ARE RANDOM

THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE

NOW GO AWAY

LOCK 'ER DOWN GUYS


well said

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:37 pm
by Shooter_Jay
People seem to forget also that a tie goes to the defender, so it's pretty easy to lose a bunch in a row attacking if the defense gets a streak of higher rolls. Don't get me wrong, I'm amazed too sometimes, but I just remind myself of all the things mentioned in this thread and tell myself duh stfu and just play smart, and let the dice fall where they may.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:44 pm
by hulmey
random.org is not random and can be hacked!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:57 pm
by Blumoki
Im sorry guys, iv been around for a while, this game (CC) has changed since the introduction of AJAX and it has changed everything.

Im not enjoyiong being here.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:15 pm
by Lobster Crush
Blumoki wrote:Im sorry guys, iv been around for a while, this game (CC) has changed since the introduction of AJAX and it has changed everything.

Im not enjoyiong being here.


I really don't think AJAX has anything to do with it. That's like claiming that changing the codebase from Python to Ruby makes it "less enjoyable". Or blaming HTML for screwing up how much fun BBS's were. How do you think AJAX has changed things (apart from making the gameplay more responsive; and, yes, breaking some of the 3rd party addons, at least temporarily)?