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Freestyle Speed Games

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:22 am
by Warsteiner
After fighting a few freestyle speed games 1on1 against majors and such and being beaten by their swift clock management, I started thinking and learning. I learned how to use the clock in your advantage in Freestyle speed games. The problem is now I'm recieving Negative feedbacks for using this strategies! In my opinion quick play is the charm of freestyle, if you can not keep up then don't join them. In my opinion Conquer Club should either change freestyle speed games so it's no longer possible OR forbid to give negative feedbacks for using the strategies i just described.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:34 am
by oVo
Actually... you did not describe a strategy, but I agree with you that the players giving you negs shouldn't play freestyle.
Freestyle speed games with 4+ players is freestyle as god intended.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:38 am
by Warsteiner
If you can't use the clock, then don't play the game where you should a 'speed' game. idd

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:07 am
by joecoolfrog
Warsteiner wrote:If you can't use the clock, then don't play the game where you should a 'speed' game. idd
If you dont want neg feedback then dont use a strategy that people dislike ! Feedback is designed to guide other players as to your playing style so why are you complaining about it.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:45 am
by Elwar
Its valid to leave feedback for forcing missed turns or just initiating boring 'wait then act' tactics. Might be fair game to do it, but you have to deal with it if people don't like it.
The very best freestyle games only happen when all act quickly and independantly. Truly rare though.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:26 am
by oVo
"wait then act?" . . . it's a freaking speed game.
This game is all about strategy, tactics and luck, so you might as well give negative feedback to every player who eliminates you from a game.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:31 am
by john1099
oVo wrote:"wait then act?" . . . it's a freaking speed game.
This game is all about strategy, tactics and luck, so you might as well give negative feedback to every player who eliminates you from a game.
Good idea, didn't you eliminate me from a game recently?


Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:39 am
by Warsteiner
Everyone knows its a part of freestyle speed game, so deal with it or don't play imo

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:51 am
by Elwar
oVo wrote:"wait then act?" . . . it's a freaking speed game.
The irony, it hurts.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:35 pm
by joecoolfrog
Warsteiner wrote:Everyone knows its a part of freestyle speed game, so deal with it or don't play imo
Firstly everybody doesnt know and secondly it isnt an intergral part of the game.Its a cheap trick in many peoples eyes and will atract feedback - live with that or dont pull the time stunt.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:56 pm
by jiminski
yeap cheap tactic.. which precludes my participation in freestyle game play.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:37 pm
by oVo
Well joecool... everybody doesn't know how to play this game either, but with a little time and experience they eventually figure it out.
so all you freestyle neophytes Quit Whining! Waaaaa!
IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE FREESTYLE GAMES DON'T PLAY THEM and negative feedback isn't the place to vent frustrations
just because a player can't figure out how to deal with the 1v1 time thing.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:09 pm
by Visaoni
This is why I don't play freestyle. I don't care to deal with forced missed turns and whatnot.
How are you arguing that everybody knows it when you stated earlier you just learned it somewhat recently?
I think it is valid to give negative feedback for it, as it warns people who might play against you that you do it. If they don't care, then it won't matter. If they would rather not play against somebody known for using these tactics, then they don't have to, which is fair. It's like somebody giving you negative feedback for being an idiot in the chat. There is nothing against the rules in excessive trash talking in the game chat, but people will give negative feedback for it if it pushes them too far. It is much the same thing. Neither are against the rules, some people don't like it enough to give negatives for it.

Posted:
Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:50 pm
by borox0
What is the point of playing 1v1 freestyle?

Posted:
Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:32 am
by frogger4
Wasn't there a change proposed in the suggestions forum to stop people from being able to use a strategy like that. If I remember right, it will be changed in the next major update

Posted:
Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:35 am
by joecoolfrog
oVo wrote:Well joecool... everybody doesn't know how to play this game either, but with a little time and experience they eventually figure it out.
so all you freestyle neophytes Quit Whining! Waaaaa!
IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE FREESTYLE GAMES DON'T PLAY THEM and negative feedback isn't the place to vent frustrations
just because a player can't figure out how to deal with the 1v1 time thing.
You are wrong !
Feedback is precisely the place to comment on supposed good or bad gameplay,that is what it is designed for. Why are you arguing anyway, if you believe that this aspect of freestyle play is fair then you wont mind people flagging it up will you ?

Posted:
Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:56 pm
by Nc_Hunt3r
They are using the feedback system exactly how its intended to be used!