Conquer Club

In a 3 player game player A, in one particular go, took all of SA and NA, meanwhile I held OZ and player B held Africa. Then I had a go where I was left with a 1v1 battle to break the NA bonus. I failed. Then player B has a go. I was expecting him to break the NA bonus however he prefers to almost eliminate me and trap me in OZ as well as trying to take Europe along with africa and only leaves 3's protecting his borders. I called player B a dummbass and idiot. Player A of course went on to win the game easily as he held such a large bonus. I then recieved negative feedback for being ''abusive'' and the like. I cant believe I recieved a neg for language which would be in a pg film and got called abusive.

Is it just me that thinks I didnt deserve a positive feedback for the game but certainly did not deserve a negative!

Thanks.

In my opinion, the feedback is retarded. It's ridiculous to see people whine about such things, it's not like you ranted in the game chat. I also finds that the part about missing a turn and the remark about your lack of pos. feedback is equally disturbing. That is (i) no grounds for feedback, and (ii) has nothing to do with the game.

alstergren wrote:In my opinion, the feedback is retarded. It's ridiculous to see people whine about such things, it's not like you ranted in the game chat. I also finds that the part about missing a turn and the remark about your lack of pos. feedback is equally disturbing. That is (i) no grounds for feedback, and (ii) has nothing to do with the game.

If the feedback you received does not meet the guidelines, report it to the Feedback Moderation Department of Conquer Club. You can find it in the Open Ticket section of the Help tab.

Honibaz

I added a poll to see what the general community thought.....

I feel it was merited. Your conduct, whether mild or not, was uncalled for and unsportsman-like. This isn't a movie; I don't see what a ratings system has to do with anything. It's unpleasant to play a game with someone who behaves in that fashion. People make mistakes, and not everybody has a head for strategy; it shouldn't matter this much. People play to have fun, or should. You called somebody a dumbass and an idiot in what is supposed to be a fun and enjoyable game, and received negative feedback for being abusive to that person. You then went and posted a poll, to the forums, to draw attention to the situation and complain about it; complaining seems to be as much of a hobby of yours as the gaming is.

If you had been banned from the site, or lost some kind of privelege, etc., then I would say the reaction was out of proportion. However, you -felt- that what someone else did, was idiotic, so you insulted them. Somebody -felt- that what you did was offensive, so they gave you negative feedback on it. If you only want to play with people who are masters of strategy, try to organize games with those whose publicly visible profiles have a high degree of positive feedback and/or a high win percentage from an impressive number of games played. If you're not doing that--and it doesn't sound like you are--then you have no cause to complain about the abilities of the people you're playing with.

Their negative feedback left for you was uncalled for, as was your use of the terms "idiot" and "dumbass" towards that player.

This is a case where you're both wrong.

In one word....NO

This is ridiculous feedback, but you pretty much asked for it.

Keep in mind, despite the nice people that are here, there are also a lot of freaks.

I've found that people who are losing, or who lost a match will look for ANY ridiculous reason to leave you a negative feedback.

If you want to avoid negatives, keep your conversations friendly and limited. I normally say, "Hello, good luck" and "Good Game." That's all.

It is annoying when noobs make dumb moves...but to them their move was a stroke of genius. People who make dumb moves go to my ignore list.

Also I would recommend not even being nice. I once got a negative for sending a PM because the person obviously forgot to end their fortification phase. Of course, after they got beat, they were upset and that's what they used as an excuse to leave a negative--saying that I was "way too pushy."

From reading your post it seems like you play the same game as me but this is not how most games go.

I am regularly in games where, if one person is getting a bonus I try to knock out that bonus but I've read the strategy pages on this site and alot of the top players hope that noobs like us do this so they can then build and conquer once we have depleted our armies.

In this case it didn't work and they guy got it wrong.

As for hotheads there are quite a few people playing who like to make fun of others but you better not answer back or they fly off the handle, still you always get the geek element in every online game.

disk wrote:This is ridiculous feedback, but you pretty much asked for it.

It is annoying when noobs make dumb moves...but to them their move was a stroke of genius. People who make dumb moves go to my ignore list.

Also I would recommend not even being nice. I once got a negative for sending a PM because the person obviously forgot to end their fortification phase. Of course, after they got beat, they were upset and that's what they used as an excuse to leave a negative--saying that I was "way too pushy."

Took a look at your feedback. Saw that you had left quite a few neg. feedbacks for people playing irregularly, missing turns and deadbeating. Dunno. If you leave feedback for such minor inconviniences, it's hard to feel bad for you getting that "pushy" feedback.

In general though (but certainly not you, you are very much to the point which is a good thing) people seems to use the feedbacks as a substitute for the flame forum. Sometimes people amazes me here, the amount of words they can put into a feedback, wow... I believe that the factual and game specific guidline should be enforced tighter, a few lines about the game is really enough.

alstergren wrote:

Took a look at your feedback. Saw that you had left quite a few neg. feedbacks for people playing irregularly, missing turns and deadbeating. Dunno. If you leave feedback for such minor inconviniences, it's hard to feel bad for you getting that "pushy" feedback.

You just made it to my ignore list. "Quite a few neg. feedbacks." I have 2 negs out of 47. Only 1 says "I'm way too pushy."

neg feedback rnt as bad as u think they r !

disk wrote:

alstergren wrote:

Took a look at your feedback. Saw that you had left quite a few neg. feedbacks for people playing irregularly, missing turns and deadbeating. Dunno. If you leave feedback for such minor inconviniences, it's hard to feel bad for you getting that "pushy" feedback.

You just made it to my ignore list. "Quite a few neg. feedbacks." I have 2 negs out of 47. Only 1 says "I'm way too pushy."

You're incapable of reading I take it. "Saw that you had left quite a few neg. feedbacks" means just that, that you have left, not recieved. It's a minor distinction between those two words.

What I meant is this, put simply: What goes around comes around. If you hand out feedbacks left anr right, it will come back and bite you in the ass eventually. So I have little sympathy (even though the "pushy" feedback itself seems a bit strange) for you getting a ridiculous feedback yourself.

LOL. I'll add you to my ignore list just for being stupid and illiterate.

chessplaya wrote:neg feedback rnt as bad as u think they r !

But its not too good when you only have one feedback and it is negative

[Moved the shit from here. Was better to put it in another thread.]

alstergren wrote:
You're incapable of reading I take it.

Bloviating doofus. You're obviously incapable of representing anything factually. I have left almost 4 pages of feedback for others. 95% of them are positive.

I have never left a feedback for anyone just because they missed a turn. I do leave it if missing multiple turns negatively impacts the game. Deadbeating should always be reported, especially since deadbeating in a doubles and triples gives the armies to someone else who usually then runs away with the game.

disk wrote:

alstergren wrote:
You're incapable of reading I take it.

Bloviating doofus. You're obviously incapable of representing anything factually. I have left almost 4 pages of feedback for others. 95% of them are positive.

I have never left a feedback for anyone just because they missed a turn. I do leave it if missing multiple turns negatively impacts the game.

LOL. It has nothing to do with any percentage between pos. / neg. feedbacks. All I said was that I personally find that you seem to leave neg. feeback in situations that isn't really a big deal. Unnecessary feedbacks in other words.

A few examples:

Once it became apparant to this guy that he wasn't going to win, he started playing infrequently and missed numerous turns without explanation or apology. Would not waste my time playing this person again.

LOL. Missed two turns. What’s the big deal?

Deadbeated my game.

Against someone who has played 18 games. Seems like he/she is gone.

Played one turn then deadbeated. .

Against someone who has played 14 games. Seems like he/she is gone.

Then two for the same game:

I only give negative feedback when I think I must do so to warn others. We consistantly had to wait almost the full 24 hours alloted for this guy to play his turn. It wasn't worth the wait...(Left retalitory feedback)

I only leave negative feedback when I feel like others should be warned. So, beware. This kid played his turns irregularly. At one point he attacked his allies to get a better position, which cost them the game.(Left retalitory feedback)

So what? It was a sequential game. If you want it quick, play r/t.

Etc. etc.


Again. If you leave feedback for such minor inconveniences, don’t be surprised/upset if it comes back to you. That was all. It was nothing personal.

Deadbeating is not a "minor inconvenience." Deadbeats ruin team games because they leave all their armies to the next living team-mate, which normally means they then dominate the game. This should be fixed, but until it is, deadbeaters should be pointed out so they can be avoided.

Missing turns is unavoidable...but when people do it because "they lost interest because they are losing," then that's a crock of shit and people should be warned the person is a dipshit.

disk wrote:Deadbeating is not a "minor inconvenience." Deadbeats ruin team games because they leave all their armies to the next living team-mate, which normally means they then dominate the game. This should be fixed, but until it is, deadbeaters should be pointed out so they can be avoided.

Missing turns is unavoidable...but when people do it because "they lost interest because they are losing," then that's a crock of shit and people should be warned the person is a dipshit.

LOL. It was actually a fix in the first place that the team mate(s) of a deadbeat got the deadbeating player's armies. That was done in order to make the games more enjoyable, and playable for the team victim(s) of the deadbeat.

It's true that sometimes you loose (I did it in a game recently) against a team with one deadbeat leaving armies behind. But if you loose that game (as we did recently) it's because of bad skills/tactics/dice. Playing against a deadbeat for three rounds is a huge advantage, not a disadvantage. One just need to prepare properly.

I don't know. I kind of agree with you about people loosing interest in the game. On the other hand, stuff happens. And I don't really care about people taking their time. It's kind of a part of the game, people having 24 hours. Whatever reason, I don't bother to be upset since it really doesn't matter.

But it's a difference of opinion. A lot of people here (in my opinion) are just over reacting making the feedback system a joke.

alstergren wrote:It's true that sometimes you loose (I did it in a game recently) against a team with one deadbeat leaving armies behind. But if you loose that game (as we did recently) it's because of bad skills/tactics/dice.

Not if the guy never plays a turn! I'm playing a tournament game right now. BigErn never took a single turn and will deadbeat next turn. Our side has already taken Australia...but it will take the best dice in the world to eliminate enough territories to even slow down the other guy when he gets all of BigErn's armies. I've never won a team game yet when someone deadbeats from the opening.

disk wrote:

alstergren wrote:It's true that sometimes you loose (I did it in a game recently) against a team with one deadbeat leaving armies behind. But if you loose that game (as we did recently) it's because of bad skills/tactics/dice.

Not if the guy never plays a turn! I'm playing a tournament game right now. BigErn never took a single turn and will deadbeat next turn. Our side has already taken Australia...but it will take the best dice in the world to eliminate enough territories to even slow down the other guy when he gets all of BigErn's armies. I've never won a team game yet when someone deadbeats from the opening.

If you haven't, then you need to reevaluate your strategies in such instances. With the right approach, it should be a problem. To begin with, your team has 9 armies extra (armies that BigErn never cashed out for each round) - that's a huge advantage. And, if you have Australia easily, then you have extra bonus there. No, you're wrong here. Sometimes the dice is so bad that you can't win for shit anyways, but that's the way it is in all games.

Back on topic I leave negative feedbacks when I think they are due........ feedback is pointless if everyone ignores bad things but I would never give a neg stating abusiveness as a reason if the languge used was idiot and dumbass....

NOHIBBERTNO wrote:Back on topic I leave negative feedbacks when I think they are due........ feedback is pointless if everyone ignores bad things but I would never give a neg stating abusiveness as a reason if the languge used was idiot and dumbass....

Like I said, it's just an excuse. Having a few negatives is just normal.