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Postby Mardiggan on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:41 pm

I am in a game with a player who seems to have a regular recurring issue. This person has played in what is (to me, personally) a staggering number of games at this Website (several thousand). Their total level of feedback is dwarfed by this, as they've only a couple hundred responses, but that feedback is very much positive (something like 190+ vs. 5 neutral/negative).

That being said, the five negative comments all say the same thing... that this person repeatedly takes nearly 24 hours to make a turn, and frequently misses multiple turns within a game. The people making these comments were not particularly diplomatic, nor were they overly polite, and I do think they might've blown things out of proportion a bit...

The player in question, now, responded to each comment with "sometimes RL takes precedence," "I have a child to take care of," "I went camping with my family, etc." They're quite the broken record, really, with "R/L comes first" running throughout... a principle which, at its most basic level, I would certainly agree with. That being said... there is a certain sense of "don't join so many games if you're repeatedly falling behind." It takes a few minutes, at most, to make a move in a game; maybe not the most calculating move, granted, but you'll do better than you will by getting kicked for missing multiple turns.

This person seems to be repeatedly taking on more than they can handle. If you're going camping for a few days with your family, why would you join a game immediately beforehand? (I don't know that this happened in that fashion, granted, it's just an impression I got from reading this person's feedback). If your child / work concerns, which many people presumably share, prevent you from playing to the length and level of consideration that you would like to put into your games, perhaps you should reduce the extent to which you are gaming.

I'm involved in one game with this person, currently. They missed their last turn, and when last I checked about 15-16 hours had gone by for their current turn, which is more time than it took the rest of us to take each of our turns combined. This person is fast becoming a frustrating speedbump in the game... which is a pity, as they might've been a truly inspiring opponent. Strategically, their absence has in fact been an asset to my own maneuvers... but it would've been nice to have the additional dynamic, as well as lose the day-long pause that occurs whenever their turn comes around.

My question is, basically... Is there a polite and courteous way to bring this up? I'm rather new to ConquerClub.com, and I really don't want to cause offense or piss people off (at least, not so early on ;-)). Is this something that is not considered impolite (in which case, I'll shut up now)..? I've no intention of leaving negative feedback; I realize we -have- 24 hours to make our moves, and to condemn someone utterly for taking that much time, even repeatedly, or missing their own turns, seems a bit excessive to me. I'd just like to know, basically, if there's some community standard as to a way to politely broach the subject.
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Postby 3seven1 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:53 pm

I joined on Friday, today is Monday. I'm currently in four games which is my limit until I get a premium account. In one of the games this guy joined last and then our game started. He missed his first turn and nows he's five hours away from missing his second turn. Very frustrating.

I'm not sure there is a way to approach this with out hurting someones feelings. I'm sure he had every intention on playing the game but for whatever reason, he's not. The only thing I can think of is from now on i'll have to check a persons feedback before I join a game. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see what others think.
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Postby Uberwald on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:55 pm

Dude!! Hurry up ;P Take you're turn already!







PS while writing this, you could have taken many turns yourself, what are you doing here? :D




PS2 some people just love the game but find it hard to find time to take their turns the minute after the can. I don't think they have to speed up, i don't find it a problem (i like the time to think myself) Though if you know you can only play well with a certain max number of games (for me its about 20) then you shouldn't enter more ie not letting people wait all the time...... though i can understand the fact that sometimes you cant refrain from clicking that join button.

PS3 if the guy sgot 190+ pos feedback i can assure you he wont bite you're head of if you ask him in the ingame chat or via a pm. He would probably respond with RL : but who knows
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Postby wicked on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:58 pm

If you don't like people who take awhile to take a turn, then add this person to your ignore list. Might as well add me too! Happens to a lot of us. Could be a time zone difference as well.
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Postby 3seven1 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:03 pm

I don't think taking a long time each turn is the issue here. It's joining a game and then missing multiple turns.

If you add someone to your ignore list does that mean you won't be able to join a game that person is in or does it mean that they won't be able to talk to you.
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Postby wicked on Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:08 pm

BTW, I looked over this person's feedback and deleted a bunch whining about her missing one turn, which is considered trivial.
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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:39 pm

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Postby Mardiggan on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:05 pm

Uberwald wrote:PS while writing this, you could have taken many turns yourself, what are you doing here? :D
I was waiting; I'm in a full allotment of games (correction... now I'm down to three, someone's on a real roll! :D) and, as I recall, I'd just finished my available turns.

wicked wrote:BTW, I looked over this person's feedback and deleted a bunch whining about her missing one turn, which is considered trivial.
Very cool. Like I said, some of them seemed to be really rude, etc. I wouldn't want anyone to be treated unfairly. I just recall feeling like they were taking forever repeatedly (I think only one turn was actually missed) and then checking their feedback, and seeing that this seemed to be the only problem anyone ever had with them.

If it's that frequent a thing, I'll just sit on my hands and wait. I probably have far too much free time ;) Thanks for the help!
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Postby chessplaya on Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:05 am

I have faced ppl that missed turns .... I undestand some ... if they appologize or give a valid reason in game chat .... if not i put them on ignore list ... but never had i left them a neg for it .... its childish!
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Postby 3seven1 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:28 pm

chessplaya wrote:I have faced ppl that missed turns .... I undestand some ... if they appologize or give a valid reason in game chat .... if not i put them on ignore list ... but never had i left them a neg for it .... its childish!


If you put someone on your ignore list does that mean you won't be able to join games they are in and they won't be able to join games you are in? does it mean your just won't see them chatting if you're in the same game? does it mean you won't see their posts in the forum? what does it mean?
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Postby cena-rules on Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:35 pm

3seven1 wrote:
chessplaya wrote:I have faced ppl that missed turns .... I undestand some ... if they appologize or give a valid reason in game chat .... if not i put them on ignore list ... but never had i left them a neg for it .... its childish!


If you put someone on your ignore list does that mean you won't be able to join games they are in and they won't be able to join games you are in? does it mean your just won't see them chatting if you're in the same game? does it mean you won't see their posts in the forum? what does it mean?


it means that they cant join a game that you are in
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Postby jako on Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:42 pm

cena-rules wrote:
3seven1 wrote:
chessplaya wrote:I have faced ppl that missed turns .... I undestand some ... if they appologize or give a valid reason in game chat .... if not i put them on ignore list ... but never had i left them a neg for it .... its childish!


If you put someone on your ignore list does that mean you won't be able to join games they are in and they won't be able to join games you are in? does it mean your just won't see them chatting if you're in the same game? does it mean you won't see their posts in the forum? what does it mean?


it means that they cant join a game that you are in


and u wont be able to see their messages in the game chat either.
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Postby Sir Titus on Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:46 pm

Could be a result of playing a shitload of games at the same time. If this guys has played more than a thousand games, then maybe he plays upwards of 100 games at a time.

I play about 100 games at a time and when I am particularly busy on a day, I may not get to a lot of my games until the 20th hour or later.

Takes up A LOT of time playing that many games.

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