Page 1 of 1

Statistics on Conquer Club Maps

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:36 am
by Honibaz
This page contains subjective and objective points, it is strongly advised not to read on if you are a critic. All information provided is for reference only, no responsibility is held by me if you lose because of the information below. Please submit any correction, suggestion, and comments by replying on this topic.

Classic
Continents:6
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories(Ice Cap, Lake, etc.):No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories(Parking Lot, Quad, etc.):No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory(Mountains, Rivers, etc.):No

Africa
Continents:6
Countries:46
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Age of Merchants
Continents:6(called resource pairs)
Countries:58
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:Yes
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

Alexander's Empire
Continents:7
Countries:41
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:Yes
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Ancient Greece
Continents:6
Countries:41
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Arctic
Continents:8
Countries:49
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

Asia
Continents:6
Countries:44
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Australia
Continents:6
Countries:36
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Battle For Australia
Continents:10
Countries:66
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

BeNeLux
Continents:8
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Brazil
Continents:6
Countries:45
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

British Isles
Continents:6
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Cairns Coral Coast
Continents:10
Countries:60
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Caribbean Islands
Continents:8
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

Canada
Continents:6
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

CCU
Continents:7
Countries:44
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:Yes
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sing(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

Chinese Checkers:
Continents:6
Countries:60
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:Yes
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Not Applicable

Circus Maximus
Continents:0
Countries:30
Bonuses:No
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:Yes
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes


Crossword
Continents:8
Countries:48(estimate since it's hard to count)
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable:
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Not Applicable

Discworld
Continents:6
Countries:43
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Europe
Continents:7
Countries:48
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Germany
Continents:6
Countries:43
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Great Lakes
Continents:9
Countries:48
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Hong Kong
Continents:6
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Indochina
Continents:5
Countries:31
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:No
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

Ireland
Continents:6
Countries:32
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

King of the Mountains
Continents:8(5 mountains plus 3 shape groups)
Countries:45
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes(Mountain Kings can only attack down the mountain!)
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

Middle Earth
Continents:7
Countries:46
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Middle East
Continents:6
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Mongol Empire
Continents:6
Countries:40
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Montreal
Continents:8
Countries:48
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

North America
Continents:8
Countries:60
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No(Arctic Circle Territories are considered "land masses")
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Philippines
Continents:7
Countries:48
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

San Francisco
Continents:6(Alcatraz is not a continent, but a country)
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Siege!
Continents:15(Throne is a continent and country since you can get bonuses from holding it, the gates are a continent, outer wall and inner wall are 2 seperate continents)
Countries:56
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes(Gates are not "land masses")
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):Yes
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

Space
Continents:7(Wormholes and Warp Gates are two continents)
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes(Wormholes and Warp Gates are not "land masses")
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

Tamriel
Continents:7
Countries:48
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s)
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

USA
Continents:6
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

USApocalypse
Continents:6
Countries:45
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes(Silicon is not a "land mass")
Lines connecting Non-Land Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

U.S. Senate
Continents:7
Countries:63
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No(The Senate is a "land mass")
Line(s) connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Yes

World 2.1
Continents:6(North America+South America+Europe+Africa+Asia+Oceania)
Countries:113
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:No(Antarctic countries are "land masses")
Line(s) connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:Yes
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:No

8 Thoughts
Continents:8(Mind and Reason is not on any continent)
Countries:42
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories:Yes(thoughts, mind, and reasonare not "land masses")
Line(s) connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Not Applicable
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories:Yes
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory:Not Applicable

Re: Statistics on Conquer Club Maps

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:30 am
by alster
Honibaz wrote:This page contains subjective and objective points, it is strongly advised not to read on if you are a critic. All information provided is for reference only, no responsibility is held by me if you lose because of the information below. Please submit any correction, suggestion, and comments by replying on this topic.

Classic
Continents:6
Countries:41
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories(Ice Cap, Lake, etc.):No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories(Parking Lot, Quad, etc.):No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory(Mountains, Rivers, etc.):No


What are the subjective points here? And how could this info help anyone loose (or win)?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:36 am
by chessplaya
umm why would any1 waste time ... writing this ... or reading it :? :?

Re: Statistics on Conquer Club Maps

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:49 am
by Honibaz
alstergren wrote:
Honibaz wrote:This page contains subjective and objective points, it is strongly advised not to read on if you are a critic. All information provided is for reference only, no responsibility is held by me if you lose because of the information below. Please submit any correction, suggestion, and comments by replying on this topic.

Classic
Continents:6
Countries:41
Bonuses:Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories(Ice Cap, Lake, etc.):No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories:Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories(Parking Lot, Quad, etc.):No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s):No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory(Mountains, Rivers, etc.):No


What are the subjective points here? And how could this info help anyone loose (or win)?


1.Some points might be different to other players. For example, you may consider that all the territories on Chinese Checkers are land, but I consider that they are not land, just territories. Subjective is one's opinion that may not be true or hard to be proven.

2.Info here may affect how many times a player has won or loss. For example, if a player is not good with maps without bonuses and they play on Cicus Maximus, they'll probably lose. If they read the info on Circus Maximus on the statistics page, they'll find out that Circus Maximus gives no bonuses and not play them for now. This may decrease the amount of games they lose.

Honibaz

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:51 am
by Honibaz
chessplaya wrote:umm why would any1 waste time ... writing this ... or reading it :? :?


Look here, I wrote this out of boredom. I had nothing to do and I was waiting to play on all of my games. If that offends you then I apologize, but that's just the way it is.

Honibaz

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:57 am
by chessplaya
it doesnt offend me not at all.... but was thinking who the hell would have as much free time to write all that ... or even try and read it .... i thought i was clear there!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:58 am
by gimil
Im pretty sure your time could of been much better spent

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:02 am
by chessplaya
gimil wrote:Im pretty sure your time could of been much better spent


thats not definitive th guy likes statistics ... so leave him alone


he actually well put the 1st post .... the only problem is that its too long for me to read..!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:41 am
by Genghis Khan CA
Well - I didn't read that whole thing, but the very first thing I saw was a mistake - classic has 42 territories... North America has 60, Age of Merchants has 58, just to name a few, just checked a few that I thought looked funny, so you might want to check how accurate this is ;)

Did you count all of these by hand? If so I am not surprised there are mistakes... perhaps it would be easier if you downloaded the CC greasemonkey script (BOB version) which will tell you the number of territories on each map :D

Thanks

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:54 am
by Honibaz
Thanks, I'll correct that.

Honibaz

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:35 am
by cjoe
Just quickly flashed through some of my favourite maps, Age of Merchants does have one way attack options (from ports to docks).
siege: how did you get 15 continents?

Just so you don't lose based on the info.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:55 am
by maniacmath17
Seems kinda pointless to have the "bonuses:" section seeing as how only 1 map doesn't have bonuses. Just a thought in case you were looking to make this more concise.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:07 pm
by jako
i'l give u an A for effort, but an F for usefulness. people dont really care how many terrs there are, whether or not they ar land based, and if there are or are not obstacles on land terrs.

if they really wanted to know more about the map, they can just click on it and study it from there. seriously, this is no help to anyone and is too much of a read for anyone to seriously use this for their strategies.

i might sound a little harsh on u but, total waste of time. nextime if u got nothing to do, go outside, u know, that green and blue and very colourful place past ur front door? :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:12 pm
by Coleman
Repost this in the Map Foundry and work on the formating a bit, like so:

Classic
Continents: 6
Countries: 42
Bonuses: Yes
Non-Land Territory/Territories: No
Lines connecting Non-Land-Adjacent Territories: Yes
Non-Bonus Territory/Territories: No
One Way Attack Line(s)/Sign(s): No
Barrier(s) in Land Territory: No

The monkeys out here aren't going to get it. Granted some of the animals in the map foundry might not see how this is useful either.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:30 pm
by TipTop
I don't get it. Can I have a banana?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:42 pm
by misterman10
TipTop wrote:I don't get it. Can I have a banana?


yes *gives TipTop banana*
I dont get the point of it either

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:46 pm
by Coleman
Well there are patterns with this that some of us number crunchers in the foundry might want to try to correlate with the popularity stuff we came up with (average games per day since creation, total games, ect) which we can then use to see how popular a new map might be before we release it.

Why would we want to do that? We are crazy people.