double cashes [Answered]

[Hatchman]

After eliminating someone in an escalating, I held 7 cards. Among them were a mixed set and a blues set. I assumed I would be able to cash both sets in the same turn, but I was only allowed to cash the mixed. In other games, I remember being allowed to cash both under exactly the same circumstances.

So what are the conditions under which a double cash occurs? It seems random to me.

[Forza AZ]

After eliminating someone in an escalating, I held 7 cards. Among them were a mixed set and a blues set. I assumed I would be able to cash both sets in the same turn, but I was only allowed to cash the mixed. In other games, I remember being allowed to cash both under exactly the same circumstances.

So what are the conditions under which a double cash occurs? It seems random to me.

Are you sure you had 4 blue cards (so 1 for the mixed and 3 for the blue set)? And also didn't you accidently clicked the wrong button when trying to cash the 2nd set.
Because it's not random, you can always cash all sets you have when you have 5 or more cards. So something must have gone wrong when you were cashing the sets.

[Hatchman]

I cashed the mixed one first, then had 3 blues and 1 of another colour (or it might have been 3 greens, but it was a set). I was not prompted to recash

I don't know maybe you're supposed to cash the mixed one last???

Might have cost me the game.

[stringybeany]

If the first cash was executing and you got impatient and clicked again, you might have accidently caught the "play later" button with the second click, if the timing was just right.

There has been some execution lag occurring, which can give you some weird results if you start impatiently clicking away.

[Hatchman]

No it was nothing like that. I'm always really careful when the game is on the line.

Am I supposed to click 6 boxes all at once in the cash prompt? LOL

[Hatchman]

Plus it never even got to the second cash option. After the first cash, it went straight to the deployment stage instead of the cash boxes.

Is this a glitch? Should I PM a mod or something?

[SirSebstar]

I am still betting on a user error. PM a mod with a bugreport if you are sure its not you. For I have never seen that, its supposed to let you pick the other set of cards as well. Whats the game number?
ps for the mods also include exact date and time.

[SirSebstar]

Found it myself, I think.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=587146

its about the following.
You started your turn with 5 cards. Cashed-in 3 at the start of your turn, got 5 from eliminating yellow and then cashed-in another set of 3. 4 remaining cards should have allowed you to cash in again if that was possible.

2007-07-13 02:55:20 - hatchman eliminated likemee from the game
2007-07-13 02:56:28 - hatchman cashed in a set of Uzbekistan, Tehran, and Izmir worth 12 armies
2007-07-13 02:56:28 - hatchman gets bonus of 2 armies added to Uzbekistan
2007-07-13 02:56:28 - hatchman gets bonus of 2 armies added to Tehran
2007-07-13 02:56:28 - hatchman gets bonus of 2 armies added to Izmir
2007-07-13 02:59:54 - hatchman deployed 3 armies on Izmir

So my question is, is this a user fault or a bug? Is it possible to cash-in at the start of the turn or would that prevent you from cashing in twice if you had 7 cards (gained 5 plus holding 2)?

[Hatchman]

Yes you found the correct game indeed. I did hold a blue or green set within the 4 remaining cards, but the game went straight to deployment rather than re-cash.

It screwed me.

[Hatchman]

Maybe you're not allowed 3 cashes in one turn unless you hold more than 5 on the third cash? Is that what you're saying Sebstar?

[SirSebstar]

Maybe you're not allowed 3 cashes in one turn unless you hold more than 5 on the third cash? Is that what you're saying Sebstar?

Well that would be wierd. But yea its close enough. However I know for a fact that the game DOES allow a third cash-in in the same turn. I dont know what went down in your case though..
PM me once you got to the bottom of this.

[Hatchman]

Will do.

Thanks Sebstar

[chessplaya]

yes it allows u as long as u have a double cash it allows u to double cash no matter what

its either a bug or u hit the cash later button


but my question is the following .... r u sure u didnt have 5 blue cards and 2 greens ????????

[Hatchman]

I believe I had 4 blue, 2 green, 1 red. So I should have been able to cash a blue and a mixed.

[chessplaya]

then no matter what , u should be able to cash a double cash

even if u had cashed a set at 5 1st and even if u went under 5 cards when u cashed the 1st set


i believe its either u hit it by mistake or the page reloaded on its own and didnt let u cash!

[Hatchman]

Crap

If I hang on to win the game it'll be a miracle.

This has happened to me more than once too!

[Hatchman]

i believe its either u hit it by mistake or the page reloaded on its own and didnt let u cash!

Doesn't the page always reload on its own after you hit "cash set" for the first set?

[wicked]

If you held the cards you said you did, you should have been able to double cash. If it's happened more than once to you, I'm assuming it's user error by clicking the wrong button. If anyone else has this problem, let us know.

[jako]

one question though, do u have to still have 5 cards or more after the first cash to cash in a second set or no matter how many cards u had left after a cash, if u still had a set then u can cash that as well?

i'l use the example in this post:
1 red
2 greens
4 blues
total 7

cashed mixed set

remaining:
1 greens
3 blues left
total 4

cash blue set or requires 1 more card to cash again?

so in a multi cash, would u need to have 5 cards to cash in twice or no matter the card amount?

[Forza AZ]

one question though, do u have to still have 5 cards or more after the first cash to cash in a second set or no matter how many cards u had left after a cash, if u still had a set then u can cash that as well?

No, you don't have to have 5 cards after the first cash in to cash in a 2nd set. You can cash in as much sets as you have, no matter how many cards you have left.

[Hatchman]

one question though, do u have to still have 5 cards or more after the first cash to cash in a second set or no matter how many cards u had left after a cash, if u still had a set then u can cash that as well?

No, you don't have to have 5 cards after the first cash in to cash in a 2nd set. You can cash in as much sets as you have, no matter how many cards you have left.

That answers my original question very well. I'll observe carefully, and if it happens again, I'll report to Wicked.

[turtle32]

actually, if you started with 5, cashed three, left with 2, then gained 5 from an elimination, cashed a set, it would leave you with 4, which will not let you cash because it is not forced with the 5, now if u had eliminated another player with 5 cards, and you had 4 cards before u eliminated them, you could cash 2 sets because it would have been 9 cards and 2 sets(6 cards) would bring u down to 3. So in other words you have to have 5 or more to be forced to cash during a turn, and 2 have 2 sets to cash u must have at least 8.

[The1exile]

actually, if you started with 5, cashed three, left with 2, then gained 5 from an elimination, cashed a set, it would leave you with 4, which will not let you cash because it is not forced with the 5, now if u had eliminated another player with 5 cards, and you had 4 cards before u eliminated them, you could cash 2 sets because it would have been 9 cards and 2 sets(6 cards) would bring u down to 3. So in other words you have to have 5 or more to be forced to cash during a turn, and 2 have 2 sets to cash u must have at least 8.

...wrong. As soon as the card cash option opens (by having 6, for example) if you have another set with the 3 left over you will be allowed to cash that as well (though I think you can choose not to).