Conquer Club

We're down to 3 players remaining in this game:

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=13806073

Which obviously is going to cause a bit of a stalemate, since opening hostilities with one opponent is going to hand the game to the remaining player. Orange has just missed two turns. If he misses the third and is booted I'll have a significant advantage as I have the troop advantage, deployment advantage, and I'll be going first once the game is down to two players. If Blue is paying attention to the log, he may recognize this situation and act now, before Orange's presumed third miss (which will give him the advantage with two players). If he does make that move, and Orange plays his next turn, then Orange may have a significant advantage depending on the damage that Blue does.

Where the "is this allowed" comes in: Orange may have missed two turns, which is understandable, I suppose, around the holidays, but I see from Orange's games that he played his turn in other games since missing the turns in the game posted above. Is intentionally missing turns to suggest the scenario that you will be booted from the game allowed, according to the rules?

he hasn't broken any rules and you guys aren't very bright for not attacking him after his missed turns... he is going to get a butt load of deferred troops when he comes back the next round and you guys are done... he played you both... everyone knows to attack a player that misses a turn, standard unwritten rule of the game... good luck, but he hasn't broken any rules... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

if it's intentional deadbeating, then it's not allowed, that's hard to prove. Orange could've 'just happened' to miss those turns for that game while still 'getting lucky enough' to catch his turns on other games.

BigBallinStalin wrote:if it's intentional deadbeating, then it's not allowed, that's hard to prove. Orange could've 'just happened' to miss those turns for that game while still 'getting lucky enough' to catch his turns on other games.

he would have to show him going in other games... however, we had a recent case where a guy was taking all of his other turns and deadbeating in one game, but that was initially ruled to be not dead beating... so, go figure...-Jésus noir

owenshooter wrote:he hasn't broken any rules and you guys aren't very bright for not attacking him after his missed turns... he is going to get a butt load of deferred troops when he comes back the next round and you guys are done... he played you both... everyone knows to attack a player that misses a turn, standard unwritten rule of the game... good luck, but he hasn't broken any rules... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

The problem with attacking the guy missing the turns is that the player not missing turns and I have similar troop counts, so attacking a player that might deadbeat out would put either of us at a disadvantage to the remaining player. I'm aware of the potential risks and rewards for the various outcomes. Since I now have the troop and deployment advantage, I figure it's best to wait to see how this particular situation will resolve. Since Blue has taken his turn, it's now wait and see whether Orange misses the third turn.

GeeksAreMyPeeps wrote:

owenshooter wrote:he hasn't broken any rules and you guys aren't very bright for not attacking him after his missed turns... he is going to get a butt load of deferred troops when he comes back the next round and you guys are done... he played you both... everyone knows to attack a player that misses a turn, standard unwritten rule of the game... good luck, but he hasn't broken any rules... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

The problem with attacking the guy missing the turns is that the player not missing turns and I have similar troop counts, so attacking a player that might deadbeat out would put either of us at a disadvantage to the remaining player. I'm aware of the potential risks and rewards for the various outcomes. Since I now have the troop and deployment advantage, I figure it's best to wait to see how this particular situation will resolve. Since Blue has taken his turn, it's now wait and see whether Orange misses the third turn.

that is when you get into chat and make an agreement... however, it is a standard move to attack players that miss turns...-Jésus noir

p.s.-let us know what happens!!!

owenshooter wrote:he hasn't broken any rules and you guys aren't very bright for not attacking him after his missed turns... he is going to get a butt load of deferred troops when he comes back the next round and you guys are done... he played you both... everyone knows to attack a player that misses a turn, standard unwritten rule of the game... good luck, but he hasn't broken any rules... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

LOL...did you even bother to look at the game before you posted this? Orange is over 700 troops behind the other 2 and will have all of 60 troops deferred. Not exactly a "butt load". Further, Oranges deploy is protected by a stack of over 800 and 600 respectively. So there really was not strategy where the others would attack.

If you can prove that the miss turn are intentionnal, I think you can build a case, especially if there is other examples, and get him a warning.
This would be of couse debattable - missing turn isn't forbidden since everyone miss turns time to time, but I do think missing turn intentionnally to gain tactical advantage is an abuse, and this wouldn't be the first time someone is punished for that in CC history.

Donelladan wrote:If you can prove that the miss turn are intentionnal, I think you can build a case, especially if there is other examples, and get him a warning.
This would be of couse debattable - missing turn isn't forbidden since everyone miss turns time to time, but I do think missing turn intentionnally to gain tactical advantage is an abuse, and this wouldn't be the first time someone is punished for that in CC history.

Once again, look at the game. He has nothing to gain by missing turns.

Like the OP said, orange gains if blue takes it to now be a 1-1 game and goes all out OP. I've had this tactic used against me several times.

_sabotage_ wrote:Like the OP said, orange gains if blue takes it to now be a 1-1 game and goes all out OP. I've had this tactic used against me several times.

Seriously? You have taken action on the hope that a player dead beats his turn? A careful look at that game would suggest no significant advantage to blue by hitting first. Further, it would be an impressively bad move to launch only to see the other player actually take their turn and steal the game.

orange is around...

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the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

owenshooter wrote:orange is around...

Last visited:Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:15 am

the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

And Orange played at turn three. The thing was Orange played in other games during the 24-hour period that was the second missed turn. And considering the large numbers of troops involved, the relative balance we're at now, and the odds that favor an attacking player, I think either Blue or I could finish the game in one turn if it ended up as a one-on-one between us.

joriki made this all ok. ask c and a about it.

you are completely allowed to db anything now.

ronc8649 wrote:joriki made this all ok. ask c and a about it.

you are completely allowed to db anything now.

You're correct if you completely ignore context (12-hour rule context != the 'mid/late game 3-player stalemate' context).

Herp derp, got anything lazy/stupid/dishonest to say?

Standard procedure to attack someone that misses a turn? In a game where the troop counts are in the 3000s? Lol don't listen to owenshooter he talks big but he ain't shit

Ltrain wrote:Standard procedure to attack someone that misses a turn? In a game where the troop counts are in the 3000s? Lol don't listen to owenshooter he talks big but he ain't shit

sorry, that is standard... you attack the guy that misses to limit his troop count for his next turn... standard... trust me...-Jésus noir

owenshooter wrote:

Ltrain wrote:Standard procedure to attack someone that misses a turn? In a game where the troop counts are in the 3000s? Lol don't listen to owenshooter he talks big but he ain't shit

sorry, that is standard... you attack the guy that misses to limit his troop count for his next turn... standard... trust me...-Jésus noir

You obviously didn't look at the game in question

My suggestion to you three is a playoff with escalating spoils and the winner takes this game. Unless you want to keep stacking for another 287 rounds!