My luck is always negative ranging from single digits but quite often in the forties. For this reason i will not renew , rarely do i win 2 dice in a single roll . It is this disparity that makes this game frustrating and not an enjoyment. If i wanted to be treated like a bitch i would go to the local dominatrix . SO FUCKOFF CC
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:02 am
by betiko
danfrank666 wrote:My luck is always negative ranging from single digits but quite often in the forties. For this reason i will not renew , rarely do i win 2 dice in a single roll . It is this disparity that makes this game frustrating and not an enjoyment. If i wanted to be treated like a bitch i would go to the local dominatrix . SO FUCKOFF CC
your dice are actually at 3.5 and perfectly balanced between all 6 numbers. you appear to have bad luck lately; and overall you are -2% in 3v2 battle outcomes. So yeah, you have very slightly under average dice. take it on the bright side: since you've had bad dice and the "random" dice generator tries to ballance things out on the long run, this means that the bright and shinny days are yet to come!
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:14 am
by TeeGee
This is not a bug report
Moving to GD
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:19 am
by owenshooter
TeeGee wrote:This is not a bug report
Moving to GD
i see what you did there, and i like it... ha!!!-Jésus noir
danfrank666 wrote:i should start a Facebook page on this.. i dont have one personally , so i could definitely draw some attention
Maybe one day you will have one! But you need friends on it. And not sure they would understand what you are talking about copy pasting these posts. I m not really sure you would do yourself a favour doing that on facebook if you want a friendly advice
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:51 am
by enjoycocacola
betiko wrote:
danfrank666 wrote:My luck is always negative ranging from single digits but quite often in the forties. For this reason i will not renew , rarely do i win 2 dice in a single roll . It is this disparity that makes this game frustrating and not an enjoyment. If i wanted to be treated like a bitch i would go to the local dominatrix . SO FUCKOFF CC
your dice are actually at 3.5 and perfectly balanced between all 6 numbers. you appear to have bad luck lately; and overall you are -2% in 3v2 battle outcomes. So yeah, you have very slightly under average dice. take it on the bright side: since you've had bad dice and the "random" dice generator tries to ballance things out on the long run, this means that the bright and shinny days are yet to come!
I am fairly new here and maybe a bit naive, but... is each roll of the dice not an independent event like in real life? I had assumed that it was.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:57 am
by betiko
enjoycocacola wrote:
betiko wrote:
danfrank666 wrote:My luck is always negative ranging from single digits but quite often in the forties. For this reason i will not renew , rarely do i win 2 dice in a single roll . It is this disparity that makes this game frustrating and not an enjoyment. If i wanted to be treated like a bitch i would go to the local dominatrix . SO FUCKOFF CC
your dice are actually at 3.5 and perfectly balanced between all 6 numbers. you appear to have bad luck lately; and overall you are -2% in 3v2 battle outcomes. So yeah, you have very slightly under average dice. take it on the bright side: since you've had bad dice and the "random" dice generator tries to ballance things out on the long run, this means that the bright and shinny days are yet to come!
I am fairly new here and maybe a bit naive, but... is each roll of the dice not an independent event like in real life? I had assumed that it was.
i'm not really sure how the random thing is programmed, but basically we all roll a bit less 1s that we are ought to and all roll between 3.51 and 3.50 because of that. Sure each roll is supposed to be an independent event, but overall dice are programmed to give you an even panel of rolls overall (even if 1s are under represented for most players)
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:18 am
by danfrank666
The reality is simply this, just because it states 3.5 avg roll , that doesnt mean all dice are distributed evenly or will they ever be. each games dice are predetermined prior to it beginning , for an example , you are playing 20 (24hr) games , in your list of games , there are games that you know are lost and you know that are winners. and some games seem to be even and will rely on cleverness.
Turns are not taken in any specific order , and yet, you get to that game and your dice are always shit . those games i dont bother to finish. just deploy and move on.. One day the courtesy of just deploying will end.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:23 am
by danfrank666
betiko wrote:
enjoycocacola wrote:
betiko wrote:
danfrank666 wrote:My luck is always negative ranging from single digits but quite often in the forties. For this reason i will not renew , rarely do i win 2 dice in a single roll . It is this disparity that makes this game frustrating and not an enjoyment. If i wanted to be treated like a bitch i would go to the local dominatrix . SO FUCKOFF CC
your dice are actually at 3.5 and perfectly balanced between all 6 numbers. you appear to have bad luck lately; and overall you are -2% in 3v2 battle outcomes. So yeah, you have very slightly under average dice. take it on the bright side: since you've had bad dice and the "random" dice generator tries to ballance things out on the long run, this means that the bright and shinny days are yet to come!
I am fairly new here and maybe a bit naive, but... is each roll of the dice not an independent event like in real life? I had assumed that it was.
i'm not really sure how the random thing is programmed, but basically we all roll a bit less 1s that we are ought to and all roll between 3.51 and 3.50 because of that. Sure each roll is supposed to be an independent event, but overall dice are programmed to give you an even panel of rolls overall (even if 1s are under represented for most players)
i was under the impression that 50,000 numbers are thrown in a bag , i am unsure if thats everyones POT or if we individually have our own pots. and the numbers are pulled from that bag of 50k til its empty , then THEY refill the bag and start over.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:27 am
by danfrank666
danfrank666 wrote:The reality is simply this, just because it states 3.5 avg roll , that doesnt mean all dice are distributed evenly or will they ever be. each games dice are predetermined prior to it beginning , for an example , you are playing 20 (24hr) games , in your list of games , there are games that you know are lost and you know that are winners. and some games seem to be even and will rely on cleverness.
Turns are not taken in any specific order , and yet, you get to that game and your dice are always shit . those games i dont bother to finish. just deploy and move on.. One day the courtesy of just deploying will end.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:44 am
by betiko
danfrank666 wrote:
danfrank666 wrote:The reality is simply this, just because it states 3.5 avg roll , that doesnt mean all dice are distributed evenly or will they ever be. each games dice are predetermined prior to it beginning , for an example , you are playing 20 (24hr) games , in your list of games , there are games that you know are lost and you know that are winners. and some games seem to be even and will rely on cleverness.
Turns are not taken in any specific order , and yet, you get to that game and your dice are always shit . those games i dont bother to finish. just deploy and move on.. One day the courtesy of just deploying will end.
The dice randomizer is provided by another website, so no there is no conspiracy against you.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:04 am
by degaston
The dice processing has changed many times over the years. Each time someone complained about the dice, the admins would say that they had been tested for randomness, and everything was fine. Then in August of 2013, someone discovered that there was a bias in the dice such that the probabilities of getting each number were not quite equal. Here is the thread.
Here's my understanding of the current state of dice roll generation. Things may have changed behind the scenes, but if they've actually fixed things, I haven't seen any announcement about it.
How dice rolls were supposed to be generated:
Get a set of 50,000 random numbers (1-6) from random.org, and set a pointer to the first number in the list.
Each time someone makes an attack, grab the number of dice needed from the list, starting where the pointer is, and set the pointer to the next unused number.
When you get to the end of the list, restart at the beginning.
Every day, get a new set of 50,000 numbers and start over.
What actually happened:
The code to get a new set of 50,000 numbers was broken, so the same set was being reused over and over.
The dice numbers were not distributed evenly in that set, so over time, this showed up as a skew in the probability of getting each number.
There were probably some sequences of numbers in the set that would result in extended runs of wins or losses that appeared much more frequently than they should have.
What they did:
Replaced the set of 50,000 numbers with one in which the numbers are distributed evenly.
What they did not do:
Fix the code so that the numbers are truly random.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:48 am
by Kaskavel
enjoycocacola wrote:
betiko wrote:
danfrank666 wrote:My luck is always negative ranging from single digits but quite often in the forties. For this reason i will not renew , rarely do i win 2 dice in a single roll . It is this disparity that makes this game frustrating and not an enjoyment. If i wanted to be treated like a bitch i would go to the local dominatrix . SO FUCKOFF CC
your dice are actually at 3.5 and perfectly balanced between all 6 numbers. you appear to have bad luck lately; and overall you are -2% in 3v2 battle outcomes. So yeah, you have very slightly under average dice. take it on the bright side: since you've had bad dice and the "random" dice generator tries to ballance things out on the long run, this means that the bright and shinny days are yet to come!
I am fairly new here and maybe a bit naive, but... is each roll of the dice not an independent event like in real life? I had assumed that it was.
Of course you are right. In fact, any player who stops attacking (while he shouldnt) because he is having "bad dice" and any player who keeps attacking (while he understands that he shouldnt) because he had bad dice and waits for the come back and any player who stops or keeps attacking because he is having "good dice" and is expecting them to either stop or keep being good are players making a mistake and they are losing more games than they would if they understood that they should not be thinking the past of the game but only the current position on the map.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:40 am
by KoolBak
Yo Dan....while I agree dice can be super frustrationg, it is human nature to NOTICE the shit dice and to accept the good dice.
Your OVERALL stats are EVEN, so, therefore, you HAVE had good dice that even out the current slump.
I recommend beer
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:57 am
by iAmCaffeine
I find the English language very frustrationg.
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:27 pm
by loutil
While your recent dice are not great they are better than your opponents...
iAmCaffeine wrote:I find the English language very frustrationg.
this cured my ball cancer... thank you..-Jésus noir
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:04 am
by degaston
owenshooter wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I find the English language very frustrationg.
this cured my ball cancer... thank you..-Jésus noir
I would think that the black Jesus could cure his own ball cancer with a little "laying on of hands"... unless maybe your hands are busy preventing dick cancer?
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:23 am
by owenshooter
degaston wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I find the English language very frustrationg.
this cured my ball cancer... thank you..-Jésus noir
I would think that the black Jesus could cure his own ball cancer with a little "laying on of hands"... unless maybe your hands are busy preventing dick cancer?
That is Latina Mary Magdalene's job... but she was on a ship at Ojos Locos, so she couldn't help a brother out...-Jésus noir
Mary at work...
Re: disparity In dice
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:42 am
by iAmCaffeine
The ultimate problem is simply that you're not that good Dan, #sorrynotsorry
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:03 am
