Conquer Club

Can someone clarify what the site have done to make waiting games take at least a month to fill?

It never used to be like this. I've got at least 8 games waiting from literally a month ago, of which a few are only 4 players!

Shit's cray..

try looking for a no spoils, team, sequential game that isn't foggy or bs trench or whatever... i think there are about 5 regular teams playing those now... and i know i don't like playing the same teams over and over, so it is just stagnate around here for me... throw in the continued destruction of the site, stagnate/dying forum, and the writing is clearly on the wall... great job, team CC... great job...-el Jesus negro

p.s.-on the flip side, we can now look forward to our monthly spamletter from team CC and more un-announced site destroyers... er, i meant site improvements...

I usually agree with you Owen, but your complaint is that boring settings aren't as common any more. Fog makes things more interesting and obviously the majority agree.

iAmCaffeine wrote:I usually agree with you Owen, but your complaint is that boring settings aren't as common any more. Fog makes things more interesting and obviously the majority agree.

there used to be at least 3 pages of available games for that "boring" setting... don't forget, there are many sub-sets of players that exist on this site and rarely, if ever, play each other. there is a thread in the GD right now about how freestyle has all but been destroyed by changes made by the powers that be. would i have ever known that had it not been posted? nope. does it really affect my playing? nope... but then again, in a way, it does... it shows how few people are here now, being as active as before... so, you may say the games i play are boring, but i used to be able to run 10-20 at a time and have 3 or more pages to select from... i don't know what types of games you play, but have you seen a decline in the number of games available? so, you should care when i say that the type of games i like are all but dead... that doesn't just represent me... that represents a slew of people that have more than likely just moved on to other things... don't look at CC through your perspective only, try to get the whole picture... actually, you will now get the whole picture via a spam mail from team CC every month!!! ha...-el Jesus negro

I agree with the premise of what you're saying, but disagree that an the volume of fog and trench games is a bad thing. There is a decline of all games, period. That is the issue, not that some settings are more popular than others.

Also, I volunteer for the Dispatch and it takes about two seconds to delete a message if you don't want to read it. I'm happy to discuss the decline of games and game types, but throwing in a jibe every now and then about a minor little thing just because you don't like it is immature. You can delete the message in about two seconds if you don't want to read it.

Team size needs to be smaller and as the playerbase continues to dwindle maybe even the least played game mode or reinforcement type should be cut to consolidate players into other games. As a player of mostly no cards and flat rate sequential the wait for games to fill can be absolutely excruciating at times. Sure, some prefer other options but the soul of the game lies in the classic settings and you can't let those games die as they are the bridge between new players and more advanced settings and maps.

I exemplify the casual player of this game these days and when you can no longer draw me in you have a problem since the vast majority of new players aren't going to be die-hards, especially right off the bat. If the games can't fill and move quickly (or at least at a "reasonable" pace) The Great Decline will continue unabated. People will deal with a crap UI, a poorly designed site and even a dead/kinda shitty community to a degree but they absolutely will not deal with sitting around and waiting in this age of instant gratification.

Finally, what's left of this community is becoming toxic and that's a sure way to drive away new players thus making games take even longer to fill. My days of being involved with it are well passed to I can't offer many solutions there but from the rare visit I make I see too much snark and elitism, two things that can easily be stopped by just not posting it.

owenshooter wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:I usually agree with you Owen, but your complaint is that boring settings aren't as common any more. Fog makes things more interesting and obviously the majority agree.

there used to be at least 3 pages of available games for that "boring" setting... don't forget, there are many sub-sets of players that exist on this site and rarely, if ever, play each other. there is a thread in the GD right now about how freestyle has all but been destroyed by changes made by the powers that be. would i have ever known that had it not been posted? nope. does it really affect my playing? nope... but then again, in a way, it does... it shows how few people are here now, being as active as before... so, you may say the games i play are boring, but i used to be able to run 10-20 at a time and have 3 or more pages to select from... i don't know what types of games you play, but have you seen a decline in the number of games available? so, you should care when i say that the type of games i like are all but dead... that doesn't just represent me... that represents a slew of people that have more than likely just moved on to other things... don't look at CC through your perspective only, try to get the whole picture... actually, you will now get the whole picture via a spam mail from team CC every month!!! ha...-el Jesus negro

We play the same settings owen.

I got around the decline in casual games by playing home games for a clan and FORCING people to play my settings.

I do take your point about the decline in our game on CC, though I would say that generally I can set up a public game and have it fill within 24 hours. Though such is the decline in activity that increasingly I challenge others to a series and get my fix that way.

iAmCaffeine wrote:You can delete the message in about two seconds if you don't want to read it.

or how about you just don't spam the boxes of everyone that had already opted out of the CC spam mail? seems much easier than bothering the same people that already requested to not be bothered... *cough*... why should i spend this 2 seconds deleting something that i don't want? *eyes rolling*...-el Jesus negro

kalishnikov wrote:Team size needs to be smaller and as the playerbase continues to dwindle maybe even the least played game mode or reinforcement type should be cut to consolidate players into other games. As a player of mostly no cards and flat rate sequential the wait for games to fill can be absolutely excruciating at times. Sure, some prefer other options but the soul of the game lies in the classic settings and you can't let those games die as they are the bridge between new players and more advanced settings and maps.

I exemplify the casual player of this game these days and when you can no longer draw me in you have a problem since the vast majority of new players aren't going to be die-hards, especially right off the bat. If the games can't fill and move quickly (or at least at a "reasonable" pace) The Great Decline will continue unabated. People will deal with a crap UI, a poorly designed site and even a dead/kinda shitty community to a degree but they absolutely will not deal with sitting around and waiting in this age of instant gratification.

Finally, what's left of this community is becoming toxic and that's a sure way to drive away new players thus making games take even longer to fill. My days of being involved with it are well passed to I can't offer many solutions there but from the rare visit I make I see too much snark and elitism, two things that can easily be stopped by just not posting it.

A great post..absolutely right.

kalishnikov wrote:Finally, what's left of this community is becoming toxic and that's a sure way to drive away new players thus making games take even longer to fill. My days of being involved with it are well passed to I can't offer many solutions there but from the rare visit I make I see too much snark and elitism, two things that can easily be stopped by just not posting it.

This is so right nowadays with this community. Sure there are some good folks out there, but most of the games I've been in recently, no matter the genre, there's always at least one person crying, raging, and cussing out another. Too toxic here anymore.

asellas1025 wrote:

kalishnikov wrote:Finally, what's left of this community is becoming toxic and that's a sure way to drive away new players thus making games take even longer to fill. My days of being involved with it are well passed to I can't offer many solutions there but from the rare visit I make I see too much snark and elitism, two things that can easily be stopped by just not posting it.

This is so right nowadays with this community. Sure there are some good folks out there, but most of the games I've been in recently, no matter the genre, there's always at least one person crying, raging, and cussing out another. Too toxic here anymore.

Try playing mainly tournaments. There's much more of a spirit of brotherhood among the tournament crowd than there is in public games.

Turnaments are fine and all, but I'm more a casual playing kind of guy. I careless about the whole winning and losing side of things. That and well, I only really play doubles, since I have a friend I enjoy playing with. The occasional singles if I wanna play against her sometimes, or on my own. However, that being said I shouldn't have to join turnies to get a decent experience either, nor a clan. Kinda proves the point, the public is just growing more and more toxic anymore.

Dukasaur wrote:

asellas1025 wrote:

kalishnikov wrote:Finally, what's left of this community is becoming toxic and that's a sure way to drive away new players thus making games take even longer to fill. My days of being involved with it are well passed to I can't offer many solutions there but from the rare visit I make I see too much snark and elitism, two things that can easily be stopped by just not posting it.

This is so right nowadays with this community. Sure there are some good folks out there, but most of the games I've been in recently, no matter the genre, there's always at least one person crying, raging, and cussing out another. Too toxic here anymore.

Try playing mainly tournaments. There's much more of a spirit of brotherhood among the tournament crowd than there is in public games.

I'm not sure I agree with that. I join a lot of large escalating tournaments and the amount of players that are so clueless about how to play drives me mad. It's always the same people signing up as well. Sure, I get to know some good players along the way and they become acquaintances or whatever, but some are just idiots who don't know better.

iAmCaffeine wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:

asellas1025 wrote:

kalishnikov wrote:Finally, what's left of this community is becoming toxic and that's a sure way to drive away new players thus making games take even longer to fill. My days of being involved with it are well passed to I can't offer many solutions there but from the rare visit I make I see too much snark and elitism, two things that can easily be stopped by just not posting it.

This is so right nowadays with this community. Sure there are some good folks out there, but most of the games I've been in recently, no matter the genre, there's always at least one person crying, raging, and cussing out another. Too toxic here anymore.

Try playing mainly tournaments. There's much more of a spirit of brotherhood among the tournament crowd than there is in public games.

I'm not sure I agree with that. I join a lot of large escalating tournaments and the amount of players that are so clueless about how to play drives me mad. It's always the same people signing up as well. Sure, I get to know some good players along the way and they become acquaintances or whatever, but some are just idiots who don't know better.

owenshooter wrote:try looking for a no spoils, team, sequential game that isn't foggy or bs trench or whatever... i think there are about 5 regular teams playing those now... and i know i don't like playing the same teams over and over, so it is just stagnate around here for me... throw in the continued destruction of the site, stagnate/dying forum, and the writing is clearly on the wall... great job, team CC... great job...-el Jesus negro

p.s.-on the flip side, we can now look forward to our monthly spamletter from team CC and more un-announced site destroyers... er, i meant site improvements...

A quick glance at the latest F400 shows 44 active clans.
If we only count 20 players per clan that's 880 people.
Perhaps there has been a decline in public team games because of the tremendous success of the clan scene?
And that would be... wait for it... something that could be seen as positive, and a success for team CC.
But ofc, whining is a lot more fun, right?

Arama86n wrote:

owenshooter wrote:try looking for a no spoils, team, sequential game that isn't foggy or bs trench or whatever... i think there are about 5 regular teams playing those now... and i know i don't like playing the same teams over and over, so it is just stagnate around here for me... throw in the continued destruction of the site, stagnate/dying forum, and the writing is clearly on the wall... great job, team CC... great job...-el Jesus negro

p.s.-on the flip side, we can now look forward to our monthly spamletter from team CC and more un-announced site destroyers... er, i meant site improvements...

A quick glance at the latest F400 shows 44 active clans.
If we only count 20 players per clan that's 880 people.
Perhaps there has been a decline in public team games because of the tremendous success of the clan scene?
And that would be... wait for it... something that could be seen as positive, and a success for team CC.
But ofc, whining is a lot more fun, right?

While I agree with you, his settings aren't particularly common in the clan scene either.

Arama86n wrote:Perhaps there has been a decline in public team games because of the tremendous success of the clan scene?
And that would be... wait for it... something that could be seen as positive, and a success for team CC.
But ofc, whining is a lot more fun, right?

eh... i'm not whining... and i'm in a clan... the point is the overall decline in games waiting on the site... and that conversation brought about the realization that certain types of freestyle games are all but non-existent on the site now... i don't think it is whining at all... but hey, say what you want... maybe the nuances of the language went over your head...-el Jesus negro

Arama86n wrote:

owenshooter wrote:try looking for a no spoils, team, sequential game that isn't foggy or bs trench or whatever... i think there are about 5 regular teams playing those now... and i know i don't like playing the same teams over and over, so it is just stagnate around here for me... throw in the continued destruction of the site, stagnate/dying forum, and the writing is clearly on the wall... great job, team CC... great job...-el Jesus negro

p.s.-on the flip side, we can now look forward to our monthly spamletter from team CC and more un-announced site destroyers... er, i meant site improvements...

A quick glance at the latest F400 shows 44 active clans.
If we only count 20 players per clan that's 880 people.
Perhaps there has been a decline in public team games because of the tremendous success of the clan scene?
And that would be... wait for it... something that could be seen as positive, and a success for team CC.
But ofc, whining is a lot more fun, right?

Well, you should consider the isolating effect that clans reinforce. It's very difficult for a newcomer to join a clan. For me, after several years I joined the clan, MementoMori, that was recently resurrected by TheMissionary. Without that event, I'd still be clanless.

In short, counting clanmembers isn't a positive indicator of growth nor success for CC. Way back in the day, I had a post recommending that a clan for newbs be founded, but it hasn't picked up steam (who would want to take such a burden anyway?). Besides, there's a substitute: the newbie training grounds thing, but I'm not sure how effective that is in encouraging prolonged membership. I certainly didn't join it, nor did I find it helpful after perusing that side of the forum years ago.

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Arama86n wrote:

owenshooter wrote:try looking for a no spoils, team, sequential game that isn't foggy or bs trench or whatever... i think there are about 5 regular teams playing those now... and i know i don't like playing the same teams over and over, so it is just stagnate around here for me... throw in the continued destruction of the site, stagnate/dying forum, and the writing is clearly on the wall... great job, team CC... great job...-el Jesus negro

p.s.-on the flip side, we can now look forward to our monthly spamletter from team CC and more un-announced site destroyers... er, i meant site improvements...

A quick glance at the latest F400 shows 44 active clans.
If we only count 20 players per clan that's 880 people.
Perhaps there has been a decline in public team games because of the tremendous success of the clan scene?
And that would be... wait for it... something that could be seen as positive, and a success for team CC.
But ofc, whining is a lot more fun, right?

Well, you should consider the isolating effect that clans reinforce. It's very difficult for a newcomer to join a clan. For me, after several years I joined the clan, MementoMori, that was recently resurrected by TheMissionary. Without that event, I'd still be clanless.

In short, counting clanmembers isn't a positive indicator of growth nor success for CC. Way back in the day, I had a post recommending that a clan for newbs be founded, but it hasn't picked up steam (who would want to take such a burden anyway?). Besides, there's a substitute: the newbie training grounds thing, but I'm not sure how effective that is in encouraging prolonged membership. I certainly didn't join it, nor did I find it helpful after perusing that side of the forum years ago.

It is not easy for me, being a patriotic American, to agree with a commie bastard. But, BBS is point on here.

loutil wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

Arama86n wrote:

owenshooter wrote:try looking for a no spoils, team, sequential game that isn't foggy or bs trench or whatever... i think there are about 5 regular teams playing those now... and i know i don't like playing the same teams over and over, so it is just stagnate around here for me... throw in the continued destruction of the site, stagnate/dying forum, and the writing is clearly on the wall... great job, team CC... great job...-el Jesus negro

p.s.-on the flip side, we can now look forward to our monthly spamletter from team CC and more un-announced site destroyers... er, i meant site improvements...

A quick glance at the latest F400 shows 44 active clans.
If we only count 20 players per clan that's 880 people.
Perhaps there has been a decline in public team games because of the tremendous success of the clan scene?
And that would be... wait for it... something that could be seen as positive, and a success for team CC.
But ofc, whining is a lot more fun, right?

Well, you should consider the isolating effect that clans reinforce. It's very difficult for a newcomer to join a clan. For me, after several years I joined the clan, MementoMori, that was recently resurrected by TheMissionary. Without that event, I'd still be clanless.

In short, counting clanmembers isn't a positive indicator of growth nor success for CC. Way back in the day, I had a post recommending that a clan for newbs be founded, but it hasn't picked up steam (who would want to take such a burden anyway?). Besides, there's a substitute: the newbie training grounds thing, but I'm not sure how effective that is in encouraging prolonged membership. I certainly didn't join it, nor did I find it helpful after perusing that side of the forum years ago.

It is not easy for me, being a patriotic American, to agree with a commie bastard. But, BBS is point on here.

Drop the nationalism so that you can be an even freer American.

you people are stupid...

when you click join a game, only the newest 100 games are shown on the front page...

once a game goes past the front page the odds of it getting filled drop exponentially...

why i remember a time when the oldest games were on the front page... that meant eventually your game was going to make it to the front page and SOMEONE would join it...

now... well, just keep inviting until someone finally says yes... gl to ya

games getting filled has jack shit to do with clans...

hell if i'm a new player, used to be i could click on a game on the front page and i may get my ass whooped but the thing would start that day... now if you click on a game on the front page you better hope it fills before more games get created and knock it off the front page... cause when that happens, well you're not playing anytime soon sir...

KraphtOne wrote:you people are stupid...

when you click join a game, only the newest 100 games are shown on the front page...

once a game goes past the front page the odds of it getting filled drop exponentially...

why i remember a time when the oldest games were on the front page... that meant eventually your game was going to make it to the front page and SOMEONE would join it...

now... well, just keep inviting until someone finally says yes... gl to ya

games getting filled has jack shit to do with clans...

hell if i'm a new player, used to be i could click on a game on the front page and i may get my ass whooped but the thing would start that day... now if you click on a game on the front page you better hope it fills before more games get created and knock it off the front page... cause when that happens, well you're not playing anytime soon sir...

i just did a search for my preferred settings... 2 results on 1 page... i rarely see more than 8 and they are the same dudes i always play...-el Jesus negro

owenshooter wrote:i just did a search for my preferred settings... 2 results on 1 page... i rarely see more than 8 and they are the same dudes i always play...-el Jesus negro

Did you create a game? nope... because it will leave the front page and never fill...

Nobody creates games anymore... fuggin nobody...

KraphtOne wrote:

owenshooter wrote:i just did a search for my preferred settings... 2 results on 1 page... i rarely see more than 8 and they are the same dudes i always play...-el Jesus negro

Did you create a game? nope... because it will leave the front page and never fill...

Nobody creates games anymore... fuggin nobody...

2850 games created in the last 16 hours.

You guys need to broaden your horizons and look for a wider variety of games....

Well, even if 2850 were created in 16 hours, KraphtOne is right.
I am wondering how often a 12 players game is filled on CC. I have difficulty filling 8 players one.