Conquer Club

bird45 wrote:Your new system blows I don't want to have to toggle between my various info tabs and the map. This new setup is complete shit leave stuff alone it worked fine as it was nobody was asking for these dip shit changes.

Denise wrote:Turn it off if you don't like it, under game settings.

betiko wrote:I simply don t understand why anyone would use it... I ve had to sit turns for clanmates that use it, and it is total shit. The stats are even all from a round back all of the time, i would be really curious to know what % of veteran users that are used to using greasemonkey add ons think the panel is an improvement, or actually use it.

From a mobile device it s just a total nightmare.

betiko wrote:I simply don t understand why anyone would use it... I ve had to sit turns for clanmates that use it, and it is total shit. The stats are even all from a round back all of the time, i would be really curious to know what % of veteran users that are used to using greasemonkey add ons think the panel is an improvement, or actually use it.

Dukasaur wrote:

betiko wrote:I simply don t understand why anyone would use it... I ve had to sit turns for clanmates that use it, and it is total shit. The stats are even all from a round back all of the time, i would be really curious to know what % of veteran users that are used to using greasemonkey add ons think the panel is an improvement, or actually use it.

I started using the Panel interface from the day it was introduced.

Was there a lot of hassle getting used to it? Yes. Do its imitation BOB functions do an inferior job to the real BOB? Yes. Have I had to do some experimenting and wiggling to make it work the way I want? Yes.

So, yes, it has been a pain in the ass compared to using the old interface with the old add-ons. So why did I switch, and why have I stayed with Panel instead of switching back?

Because, the panel functions are a built-in part of the site. They are maintained by BW and/or paid admins who see it as their job to keep them running. And yeah, every time a new release is accompanied by new bugs, there is all kinds of wailing and gnashing of teeth in the forums, but bottom line is the site is trying to keep us as paying customers, and BW works 18-hour days until every last bug is hunted down and fixed.

Not so with BOB and the other add-ons. They are maintained entirely by volunteers, and back when volunteers were plentiful and site updates were few and far between, they worked pretty well. But now, with volunteers few and site updates frequent, it is getting harder and harder to get the add-ons maintained. BOB is still limping along, but has fewer functions than before. MapRank only works with some fiddling and jury-rigging. A lot of the others don't work at all.

Like it or not (and I don't like it, but such is life) the add-ons probably will fall further and further behind, while the built-in functions will over time get better and better.

I'm naturally resistant to change. I struggled with my Apple II long after most of my friends switched to PCs. Then I struggled along with my 286 long after all my friends had 486s and Pentiums. Then I had a 486 but I kept running DOS long after everyone else in the world was using Windows. And yeah, DOS with my custom batch files maintained an office far better than Windows crapware could, but in the end I still paid the price. I was frozen in place, and I constantly had to do more work to just to stay level, while Windows gradually ironed out the bugs and eventually became useful and (almost) reliable.

With the UI change on CC, I decided that this time, I wasn't going to torture myself clinging to the old ways. I was getting in on the new way right from day one, and sure enough, piece by piece it gets better and better. At this point it's still slightly inferior to add-on BOB, but not by much any more, and the time will come when it is better.

betiko wrote:I simply don t understand why anyone would use it... I ve had to sit turns for clanmates that use it, and it is total shit. The stats are even all from a round back all of the time, i would be really curious to know what % of veteran users that are used to using greasemonkey add ons think the panel is an improvement, or actually use it.

From a mobile device it s just a total nightmare.

L M S wrote:I keep asking...
Why isn't BoB as is, what was made a part of the site?

iAmCaffeine wrote:

L M S wrote:I keep asking...
Why isn't BoB as is, what was made a part of the site?

Probably the same reason they created a terrible version of clickable maps. People develop these scripts for nothing, for a long time, just to get ripped off by CC making a shit version of their own. What a great way to thank people for enhancing the game.