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quickest way to #1 - bullet proof method

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:46 am
by DiM
i was just thinking of the easiest way to get to #1. put all the players on your ignore list except for your friends. then they do the same thing. after that take turns in waiting for the BR. make sure you or at least one of your friends is online and quickly join. after that just spread the word to your friends and BR is ready to start. perfect.

now all your players work for the common goal of giving you their points.

at the end you're sure to get a few thousand points and reach #1. since everybody is working for you the game will be over soon. next battle royale is about to start. repeat the same thing and help another player reach number 1. soon there will be roughly 100+ people with scores over 3000.



PS: i'm just joking here but this is totally possible because of the ignore list. so that's why i'm suggesting the ignore list restrictions should be lifted for the battle royale only.

Re: quickest way to #1 - bullet proof method

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:48 am
by chessplaya
DiM wrote:i was just thinking of the easiest way to get to #1. put all the players on your ignore list except for your friends. then they do the same thing. after that take turns in waiting for the BR. make sure you or at least one of your friends is online and quickly join. after that just spread the word to your friends and BR is ready to start. perfect.

now all your players work for the common goal of giving you their points.

at the end you're sure to get a few thousand points and reach #1. since everybody is working for you the game will be over soon. next battle royale is about to start. repeat the same thing and help another player reach number 1. soon there will be roughly 100+ people with scores over 3000.


then get banned from cc for ur immature behavior great idea i love it :wink:

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:48 am
by AK_iceman
I'm pretty sure that if this happened, I would block all the users from playing together and reset the points of the winner. :lol:

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:53 am
by poo-maker
LOL, :lol: dream on...

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:10 am
by xtratabasco
AK_iceman wrote:I'm pretty sure that if this happened, I would block all the users from playing together and reset the points of the winner. :lol:


Nice

theres always an answer for those who want to plant bugs in the system. LOL :D

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:10 am
by DiM
guys you're missiong the point of my post. the PS was the important part.

plus i really don't see any reason for banning somebody if he did this :wink: it's totally inside the rules.

not to mention some people were left outside of the BR because they were on ignore lists. was it intentional? should we ban the people in BR that have somebody on ignore?

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:11 am
by Genghis Khan CA
I thought you were going to say - only play 2 player terminator games - if you have a bad drop deadbeat and you wont lose any points, because it is terminator and another player didn't eliminate you.

I hope there are safeguards to this kind of potential abuse :) I don't actually see the point of making terminator and assassin options available for 2 player games?

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:12 am
by DiM
xtratabasco wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:I'm pretty sure that if this happened, I would block all the users from playing together and reset the points of the winner. :lol:


Nice

theres always an answer for those who want to plant bugs in the system. LOL :D


not nice because baning and taking away points is not legal in this case. it's not against the rules to do such a thing.

and second, i'm not trying to plant bugs. the bug is already here and i just thought this would be a nice way to report it. :wink:

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:14 am
by DiM
Genghis Khan CA wrote:I thought you were going to say - only play 2 player terminator games - if you have a bad drop deadbeat and you wont lose any points, because it is terminator and another player didn't eliminate you.

I hope there are safeguards to this kind of potential abuse :) I don't actually see the point of making terminator and assassin options available for 2 player games?


good point. here's another kind of exploit that should be avoided.

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:16 am
by poo-maker
:roll: wow, i didnt think of that...
*goes to create some open 2 player games*

:wink:

Re: quickest way to #1 - bullet proof method

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:37 am
by flashleg8
DiM wrote:i was just thinking of the easiest way to get to #1. put all the players on your ignore list except for your friends. then they do the same thing. after that take turns in waiting for the BR. make sure you or at least one of your friends is online and quickly join. after that just spread the word to your friends and BR is ready to start. perfect.

now all your players work for the common goal of giving you their points.

at the end you're sure to get a few thousand points and reach #1. since everybody is working for you the game will be over soon. next battle royale is about to start. repeat the same thing and help another player reach number 1. soon there will be roughly 100+ people with scores over 3000.



That’s just a pyramid scheme, you would need constant amounts of new recruits to "gift" the points to the player who is to be number one. Otherwise the points you all have will just keep being redistributed - not increased (unless in a BR there's bonus points up for grabs - I've not played in one).

Re: quickest way to #1 - bullet proof method

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:46 am
by DiM
flashleg8 wrote:
DiM wrote:i was just thinking of the easiest way to get to #1. put all the players on your ignore list except for your friends. then they do the same thing. after that take turns in waiting for the BR. make sure you or at least one of your friends is online and quickly join. after that just spread the word to your friends and BR is ready to start. perfect.

now all your players work for the common goal of giving you their points.

at the end you're sure to get a few thousand points and reach #1. since everybody is working for you the game will be over soon. next battle royale is about to start. repeat the same thing and help another player reach number 1. soon there will be roughly 100+ people with scores over 3000.



That’s just a pyramid scheme, you would need constant amounts of new recruits to "gift" the points to the player who is to be number one. Otherwise the points you all have will just keep being redistributed - not increased (unless in a BR there's bonus points up for grabs - I've not played in one).



true. :lol:

Re: quickest way to #1 - bullet proof method

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:24 pm
by ABSOLUTE_MASTER
DiM wrote:PS: i'm just joking here but this is totally possible because of the ignore list. so that's why i'm suggesting the ignore list restrictions should be lifted for the battle royale only.


Agree!

AK_iceman wrote:I'm pretty sure that if this happened, I would block all the users from playing together and reset the points of the winner.


:roll:

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:38 pm
by Phobia
i love the idea! quench it!


:?

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:47 pm
by Shacekenhall
AK_iceman wrote:I'm pretty sure that if this happened, I would block all the users from playing together and reset the points of the winner. :lol:


Interesting.... arent you the mod putting people in your ignore list for no reason? :-k

I agree, ignore list restrictions should be lifted for the battle royale
:?

Regards

Shace

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:06 pm
by detlef
Has anyone mentioned the fact that this whole thing is based on putting over 18,000 people on your ignore list? That would seem to be a bit of a hassle?

Just thought I'd mention it.

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:51 pm
by MeDeFe
AK_iceman wrote:I'm pretty sure that if this happened, I would block all the users from playing together and reset the points of the winner.


So basically an unnecessarily complicated and controversial solution as opposed to an easy and uncontroversial one that has already been suggested?

I get the feeling some mods need to rethink their decisions before telling everyone about them. Having people on ones ignore list is not against the rules, having 18k people on your ignore list is also not against the rules, watching for a certain game to start is not against the rules, joining this game is not against the rules, people playing in an exceptionally stupid way so another player wins is not against the rules (in fact it happens all the time). Nothing there is against the rules. It's just that it's extremely unsportsmanlike. Abusing the system? Hardly, what's not forbidden is implicitly allowed. The system cannot be abused. Like factual double turns in freestyle for example. Whenever someone complains about them they're told to toughen up and that "it's freestyle, live with it".
If you don't want this to happen make sure that it CAN'T happen. But don't let it happen and then try to change it.

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:11 pm
by gibbom
Genghis Khan CA wrote:I thought you were going to say - only play 2 player terminator games - if you have a bad drop deadbeat and you wont lose any points, because it is terminator and another player didn't eliminate you.

I hope there are safeguards to this kind of potential abuse :) I don't actually see the point of making terminator and assassin options available for 2 player games?


you should be able to beat a player who's not playing within 3 rounds - I'm about to beat Kid A inside 3 rounds and he's actually playing! (Although the dice ARE helping me a lot :wink: )

Edit: fell one army short :( guess it'll be 4 rounds then

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:25 pm
by AK_iceman
MeDeFe wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:I'm pretty sure that if this happened, I would block all the users from playing together and reset the points of the winner.


So basically an unnecessarily complicated and controversial solution as opposed to an easy and uncontroversial one that has already been suggested?

I get the feeling some mods need to rethink their decisions before telling everyone about them. Having people on ones ignore list is not against the rules, having 18k people on your ignore list is also not against the rules, watching for a certain game to start is not against the rules, joining this game is not against the rules, people playing in an exceptionally stupid way so another player wins is not against the rules (in fact it happens all the time). Nothing there is against the rules. It's just that it's extremely unsportsmanlike. Abusing the system? Hardly, what's not forbidden is implicitly allowed. The system cannot be abused. Like factual double turns in freestyle for example. Whenever someone complains about them they're told to toughen up and that "it's freestyle, live with it".
If you don't want this to happen make sure that it CAN'T happen. But don't let it happen and then try to change it.

I'm sorry but read the first post again please. DiM suggested that all the players in the BR would be friends due to the ignore list scheme, and to quote DiM...
DiM wrote:at the end you're sure to get a few thousand points and reach #1 since everybody is working for you
This is a certain secret alliance between these friends and therefore they would be blocked from playing together again. And in this last update lack mentioned that if people cheat to raise their scores a considerable amount then we can reset their scores.

Please pay attention next time. :wink:

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:29 pm
by corner G
what happens if you put yourself on your ignor list... :-k

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:34 pm
by ABSOLUTE_MASTER
corner G wrote:what happens if you put yourself on your ignor list... :-k


Did you try it?

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:31 pm
by sully800
ABSOLUTE_MASTER wrote:
corner G wrote:what happens if you put yourself on your ignor list... :-k


Did you try it?


He did, and ending up deactivating his account, so he can no longer answer your question. :wink:

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:56 pm
by ABSOLUTE_MASTER
sully800 wrote:
ABSOLUTE_MASTER wrote:
corner G wrote:what happens if you put yourself on your ignor list... :-k

Did you try it?

He did, and ending up deactivating his account, so he can no longer answer your question. :wink:


OMG! #-o

I was tempted to try it myself... Thank God I didn't.....lol... :wink:

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:10 pm
by DiM
AK_iceman wrote:
I'm sorry but read the first post again please. DiM suggested that all the players in the BR would be friends due to the ignore list scheme, and to quote DiM...
DiM wrote:at the end you're sure to get a few thousand points and reach #1 since everybody is working for you
This is a certain secret alliance between these friends and therefore they would be blocked from playing together again. And in this last update lack mentioned that if people cheat to raise their scores a considerable amount then we can reset their scores.

Please pay attention next time. :wink:


it's not a secret alliance. it can be announced in game chat but it really does not have to. i've seen players that did everything in their powers to lose (simtom case). what would be wrong if 100 players decided to lose BR? again not any rule breaking and since it's not cheating i don't see how a score reset can be enforced. i join and i want to lose and so do another 100 players. by "pure coincidence" only one wants to win. it can't be proved it's a conspiracy. so why not simply remove the ignore list for BR.

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:30 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
i prefer just to win all my games.