Win Percentage

[Man United]

What do you think of the win percentage statistic that everyone has on their profile and is on the scoreboard? It seems like a useless piece of information to me. A 30% win rate could be pathetic or really impressive, depending on what game type one plays.

Do you think it would be better to have something similar to the kill/death-ration found on most first-person-shooter games? To me that would make it a lot more sense.

[rhp 1]

What do you think of the win percentage statistic that everyone has on their profile and is on the scoreboard? It seems like a useless piece of information to me. A 30% win rate could be pathetic or really impressive, depending on what game type one plays.

Do you think it would be better to have something similar to the kill/death-ration found on most first-person-shooter games? To me that would make it a lot more sense.

agreed... some other more meaningful stat should be used in it's place, or added.. 50% win in 6-8 player games is epic, 50% win in 1v1 games is marginal @ best... though I'm not sure it matters tbh... People join, I win... not real concerned about who they beat previously or @ what rate...

[Shannon Apple]

20% win rate in 8 player singles games is pretty damn good. 25-30% is epic. This is of course if you are playing with good players.
You have 8 people to beat, so the win percentage is going to be way lower than it would be for 1v1.

In 1v1, 50% is decent. You have got to take into account the luck factor involved. Unless you are continually playing a map that you've perfected against idiots, your score should be within 50-60%.

However in team games, the win rate should be much higher, of course, it all depends on communication and what have you.

[ChrisPond]

i am proud of my win percentage as i hate losing a single game.

i do play a lot of team games and some 1 v 1 games. i had to look it up but it appears i am 73-20 (78%) on 1 v 1 games. there are quite a few conquer rome games and kings court 2 games there and i do enjoy those maps, but a lot of the games are tournament games. I am guessing there are quite a few players that have a win percentage of 75% or better on 1 v 1 games?

I am guessing my team games are in the same ball park for win percentage but i need to look it up...?

I have 500 plus games right now. My win percentage would be even higher if i would have avoided the 8 man escalating games quicker and not joined that damn tournament with all the escalating games. are you starting to notice my dislike for escalating? I did play quite a few 8 man world 2.1 fog games in the beginning and I am pretty sure i did pretty well there as well?

[ChrisPond]

since i know the question is coming, I went ahead and looked it up...

In 8 player fog games, non escalating games i am 20/76 (26% win percentage).

I am thinking i really should play some more of these games as i really enjoy them and have not played them in a while.

[rhp 1]

i am proud of my win percentage as i hate losing a single game.

i do play a lot of team games and some 1 v 1 games. i had to look it up but it appears i am 73-20 (78%) on 1 v 1 games. there are quite a few conquer rome games and kings court 2 games there and i do enjoy those maps, but a lot of the games are tournament games. I am guessing there are quite a few players that have a win percentage of 75% or better on 1 v 1 games?

I am guessing my team games are in the same ball park for win percentage but i need to look it up...?

I have 500 plus games right now. My win percentage would be even higher if i would have avoided the 8 man escalating games quicker and not joined that damn tournament with all the escalating games. are you starting to notice my dislike for escalating? I did play quite a few 8 man world 2.1 fog games in the beginning and I am pretty sure i did pretty well there as well?

all good numbers... the author of this thread was simply making a point that win% isn't really that telling of a player's skill without any reference or context to the type of games he/she plays.... better stats for showing one's skills are available...

[ChrisPond]

haha

i must be bored. i looked up my 8 man escalating games...3 wins out of 35 (8%). i guess if you want to give me a beat down, invite me to one of those games.

[ChrisPond]

all good numbers... the author of this thread was simply making a point that win% isn't really that telling of a player's skill without any reference or context to the type of games he/she plays.... better stats for showing one's skills are available...[/quote]

I do agree, but when i have an opponent and "research" them i do look at that win percentage and then dig a bit deeper with game searches to see what they are good at. i like that number there on the profile as it is a starting point.

I do agree, the percentage means nothing without context.

Just the little bit of looking up i did for this made me confirm my dislike of escalating games

[Man United]

I was more interested in hearing your opinions on the statistic and it's significance, as well as whether or not an alternative would be of any use. People posting about themselves is good too I suppose.

While everyone's at it... I've finished 10 4/5 player games and won 9 of them. Ha! 90%!

[ChrisPond]

I guess in my long winded, multiple post way I am just trying to say the win percentage is just a number... Just like someone's score.

I do look at both to "size up my competition" but with all the settings on this site it does not mean a lot. That is why you have to look at what games someone is playing and who they are playing against.

Take me as an example. Score and win percentage is up there so I look like I am tough to beat, but get me in an 8 player escalating game and u might as well treat me like a Cook.

I am not sure how you could improve the win percentage number on a profile...it is just an indicator that tells me I better look a little deeper to see what I am up against.

[TheMissionary]

So what would be a good number for someone who plays everything?

[Man United]

I guess in my long winded, multiple post way I am just trying to say the win percentage is just a number... Just like someone's score.

I do look at both to "size up my competition" but with all the settings on this site it does not mean a lot. That is why you have to look at what games someone is playing and who they are playing against.

Take me as an example. Score and win percentage is up there so I look like I am tough to beat, but get me in an 8 player escalating game and u might as well treat me like a Cook.

I am not sure how you could improve the win percentage number on a profile...it is just an indicator that tells me I better look a little deeper to see what I am up against.

Score is a number that actually tells you about the player's skill level in the games said player choses to play though. Your exceptional score for example suggests you must be confident you'll win before starting or joining a game, especially against lower ranked players, or else you wouldn't put your points on the line. No context or background check necessary.

If there was a number that showed a player's number of opponents won against, divided by the number of games lost, that too would be an accurate figure on how skilled a player is in the games they play. It'd be safe to say any player with a ratio of less than 0,8 does quite poorly and anyone with one above 1,2 does rather well.

So what would be a good number for someone who plays everything?

I took a look at your recent games. You mostly play 1vs1 (2vs2, etc) but a number of large assassin and standard games as well. The 1on1 games should have your win rate near 50%, with the other games dragging it down slightly. 46% seems decent. It's impossible to really say though without looking through all your games, which would take forever considering the vast amount of games you've played over the years.

[BigBallinStalin]

Is there a way to easily filter for 1v1 and team games with maprank?

I'm a bit lost on how to figure this out... :/

[macbone]

What do you mean, BBS?

If you have Maprank installed, yYou can check someone's win percentage by searching for whatever settings you like in Game Finder, inputing the player's name, and hitting the Maprank button.

Man U, you can check a player's stats by mapranking them. It gives you a kill ratio for all games, along with individual kill ratios per map. It also includes Relative Rank based on the strength of opponents.

I don't know what good scores are for those, though.

[betiko]

Is there a way to easily filter for 1v1 and team games with maprank?

I'm a bit lost on how to figure this out... :/

you's 56% out of 440 games.

yes, this has been discussed millions of times; the win rate on our profile page is completely silly. several systems that make sense have been proposed.
like an index... say "1" is 50% in 1v1/1 team v 1team; 33% for 1v1v1 ect ect...
if you really want to serach info about an opponent though, you'd rather look per map.

[iAmCaffeine]

So what would be a good number for someone who plays everything?

I play everything and I hold a win percentage of 51% which in my opinion isn't that good, nor is my rank currently.

[rhp 1]

So what would be a good number for someone who plays everything?

42-46% IMO

[betiko]

That question cannot be answered because even if a lot of players, myself included, play everything, the proportions are different from one another.

Other thing, Just look at the scoreboard though and look at win % of the top players. Just by looking at them, you know what type of players they are (team vs multi singles top players) cause those are the 2 only ways to get to the top imo (also 1v1 freestyle farmers of course lol)
The higher the win rate, the more of a team player.. You can then check medals on the profile

[rhp 1]

That question cannot be answered because even if a lot of players, myself included, play everything, the proportions are different from one another.

Other thing, Just look at the scoreboard though and look at win % of the top players. Just by looking at them, you know what type of players they are (team vs multi singles top players) cause those are the 2 only ways to get to the top imo (also 1v1 freestyle farmers of course lol)
The higher the win rate, the more of a team player.. You can then check medals on the profile

Good thing losses against bots aren't taken into account.... you'd be fucked...

Checking medals is kinda useless too based on the fact that its a fuction of games played and whether said player wants to actually focus on achieving medals... any decent player can get all platinum... it takes a few things.. be a good player, don't care about your score, know how to use the foe button (most players with many medals, not saying its a bad thing, just a fact), spend entirely too much time playing on CC, and have the patience, focus, and time to play an ass-load of games you're not interested in playing...

[iAmCaffeine]

In some cases medals instantly tell you what kind of player you're looking at though. When I was recruiting for my clan, I saw plenty of people with good ranks who didn't have a single team game medal.

[betiko]

In some cases medals instantly tell you what kind of player you're looking at though. When I was recruiting for my clan, I saw plenty of people with good ranks who didn't have a single team game medal.

Exactly. Also rhp, just looking at the medals bellow your avatar you instantly know what type of player you are.
The ballance between medal types shows if someone plays a lot of a setting and barely others. Having platinum in some and bronze/none in others is pretty meaningful. It s always 100% acurrate about the type of player.

Ps: play whambot 10 times on a map with 12/15 starting terts and tell me if you win them all!

[BoganGod]

My win percentage is 48% mainly because I didn't really play many team games until I had played 3000 or so games. A lot of 4-8player standard games in my first few thousand games. If win percentage was taken purely on team games I am in 60%+ territory. Played 10 and a half thousand games roughly.
Trying to say in my typical long winded boring fashion, The % on wall doesn't reflect recent game choices for most people. Unless your dealing with a noob or sub 1000game player, the % is meaningless. Looking at medals as betiko suggested is the way to go. Also if someone has a "complex" map up with esoteric settings, generally pays to map rank them.

[rhp 1]

My win percentage is 48% mainly because I didn't really play many team games until I had played 3000 or so games. A lot of 4-8player standard games in my first few thousand games. If win percentage was taken purely on team games I am in 60%+ territory. Played 10 and a half thousand games roughly.
Trying to say in my typical long winded boring fashion, The % on wall doesn't reflect recent game choices for most people. Unless your dealing with a noob or sub 1000game player, the % is meaningless. Looking at medals as betiko suggested is the way to go. Also if someone has a "complex" map up with esoteric settings, generally pays to map rank them.

Well said.... my win % is high 40s... my win % over the last couple years is closer to 65%... it means little if anything...

[rhp 1]

In some cases medals instantly tell you what kind of player you're looking at though. When I was recruiting for my clan, I saw plenty of people with good ranks who didn't have a single team game medal.

Exactly. Also rhp, just looking at the medals bellow your avatar you instantly know what type of player you are.
The ballance between medal types shows if someone plays a lot of a setting and barely others. Having platinum in some and bronze/none in others is pretty meaningful. It s always 100% acurrate about the type of player.

Ps: play whambot 10 times on a map with 12/15 starting terts and tell me if you win them all!

Eh.... I know many riduculously average players with all gold and a few platinums... you wanna call them "well rounded"? Ok... but the fact that a player has a bunch of medals is @ best an indicator and not definitive in the least.... if you have 15-20000 games, ffs sake, I hope you have a shit-load of medals... and maybe you don't have a lot of games under your belt, but you made a point of getting medals... well, good job then.... but again, it tells me nothing specific ab ur gameplay... take b60000 (or whatever its is) or Mageplunka.... both are flush with platinums... and while I think both are really good players, do they come to mind when thinking of top overall players on here? Hardly.... they are both strong players who wanted to max out their medals... point being as I said previously.... medals are simply an idicator, and to get back to the point of this thread, there are FAR better statistics available to quantify player's skill level...

[rhp 1]

In some cases medals instantly tell you what kind of player you're looking at though. When I was recruiting for my clan, I saw plenty of people with good ranks who didn't have a single team game medal.

Exactly. Also rhp, just looking at the medals bellow your avatar you instantly know what type of player you are.
The ballance between medal types shows if someone plays a lot of a setting and barely others. Having platinum in some and bronze/none in others is pretty meaningful. It s always 100% acurrate about the type of player.

Ps: play whambot 10 times on a map with 12/15 starting terts and tell me if you win them all!

And u are incorrect my friend... while my medals correctly suggest that I'm a good fs player, to assume I'm not a good team player or whatever else ur comments suggest, would be a mistake on your part... I choose to generally play exciting games that I enjoy... don't assume i'm not skilled @ the snooze festivals you play... yet again proving my point that medals are an indicator and not definitive
I could spend what? A month or 2 getting golds in all the categories and all of a sudden I'm a totally different player in your eyes? Lol... silly... my point exactly...