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The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:25 am
by BoganGod
Dear Gentle, and Gentile readers
I the God of the muttering floor pacing few have a question to ask the community. I have attempted to find the answer in all the official advertising pap clogging up this site, success was not mine. I contemplated opening an E-ticket, rejected that option the probability of me receiving a vague non committal a few weeks from now was too high. Eventually after much sole searching(splinter) I decided to ask here. Honoured readers, trolls, stalkers, ladyboys and bruceswar please help me resolve this important question.

Does CC have a duty of care to the mentally ill?
a) If the mentally ill refuse/neglect to take their medication does this void CC's duty of care(why help those who won't help themselves right? Even though not helping themselves is part of their condition......)
b) Is using mental illness as a reason to be treated differently, unfair to non impaired users?
c) CC doesn't appear to have a policy to deal with the mentally ill(according to some reputable research 32% of the population at some stage in their lives, and 11% of the population at any given time). Should CC have a mental health policy. Some members of this site have self harmed, or have been in danger of doing so. Some ex members are not ex members because of the ultimate self harm. What are the ethics of implementing a mental health policy on a voluntary site(all be it a pay for full use site)
d) Is it fair to ask volunteer moderators to accept even more responsibilities? A thankless task already, with people questioning their motives to begin with. How do you moderator/deal with someone that is unable to reason/accept logic due to mental illness. Moderator - "Your crossing the line and need to stop stalking BoganGod mentally ill stalker - Screw you chemefreak yoo ar jus liek evry1 else and are aginst me
e) Privacy concerns and getting what you pay for. If I'm mentally ill, and have been perma banned because of actions directly attributable to my illness do I deserve redemption/or a reduction in my ban if I can prove I'm seeking help? Does just refunding a sick persons money, cutting them off from the site and hoping they will go away seem like a reputable way to treat your customers?

A few examples
- . TinkyWinky* obsessively watches Bruceswar's wall, reporting every post and the time of each post. Making false accusations fueled by mania, paranoia, and a considerable dose of delusion This creates extra work for moderators, needless stress and time wasted for Bruceswar and generally just pisses people off.
- 0thought* reports every post in a thread, because his/her/its paranoia and inflated sense of importance leads him/her/it to think they are the only person on site worth discussing.So all comments must be about them obviously this reduces all other users enjoyment of the thread in question. Creates extra work for mods once again.
BunnyFooFoo* thinks she is God, and agitates against anything that her febrile imagination can misconstrue to be about her and against religion and spirituality Religion intruding in an aggressive way into what is essentially a secular site, is a violation of the rights of other users to enjoy the experience they have paid for. Free from proselytising, harassment, and fanaticism. How does the community and the moderators deal with BunnyFooFoo who genuinely believes she is God(most would agree in all probability a delusion on her part). Religion and politics have their place in off topics and private user groups. How do we deal with a spill over due to someone not understanding boundaries.

Thank you for reading, thinking, and leaving a considered response.

*Names have been changed to protect the ill and are used for example purposes only. With the exception of Bruceswar whose courageous and public battle with bi-polar and split personality disorder is an inspiration to those in his corner.

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:36 am
by Bruceswar
All I got to say is WTF? I cannot make out most of this crap? What am I missing other than some people are nutty?

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:46 am
by BoganGod
Bruceswar wrote:All I got to say is WTF? I cannot make out most of this crap? What am I missing other than some people are nutty?

Are you taking your meds? Am asking whether CC has a mental health policy. Whether CC should give the mentally ill special dispensations. If CC treats the mentally ill differently is that fair to the non mentally ill.

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:47 am
by Bruceswar
BoganGod wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:All I got to say is WTF? I cannot make out most of this crap? What am I missing other than some people are nutty?

Are you taking your meds? Am asking whether CC has a mental health policy. Whether CC should give the mentally ill special dispensations. If CC treats the mentally ill differently is that fair to the non mentally ill.



If you are mentally ill CC is the right place for you. Everybody on CC is ill in some way or another.. LOL :)

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:50 am
by macbone
Bruceswar wrote:If you are mentally ill CC is the right place for you. Everybody on CC is ill in some way or another.. LOL :)


Hey, I smell a new advertising campaign! =)

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:55 am
by BoganGod
macbone wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:If you are mentally ill CC is the right place for you. Everybody on CC is ill in some way or another.. LOL :)


Hey, I smell a new advertising campaign! =)


Normal, don't get angry over the little things? Think games are for children? CC is not for you!

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:05 am
by Dukasaur
Conquer Club has always cared deeply about the mental health of its inmatesmembers. We have a very special treatment program for anyone who is suffering from wicked thoughts.

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Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:30 am
by fishydance
Dukasaur wrote:Conquer Club has always cared deeply about the mental health of its inmatesmembers. We have a very special treatment program for anyone who is suffering from wicked thoughts.


Nooooo.... I LIKE my wicked thoughts. Don't take them from me!! :o

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:46 am
by BoganGod
Good to see that most people are not suffering from humour impairment. Moving back on topic though. Serious question I'm posing. Does CC need a policy for dealing with the legitimately mentally ill.

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:56 am
by iAmCaffeine
BoganGod wrote:Good to see that most people are not suffering from humour impairment. Moving back on topic though. Serious question I'm posing. Does CC need a policy for dealing with the legitimately mentally ill.


I think so. Shall we make a usergroup to discuss how this should be put together?

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:45 am
by BoganGod
iAmCaffeine wrote:
BoganGod wrote:Good to see that most people are not suffering from humour impairment. Moving back on topic though. Serious question I'm posing. Does CC need a policy for dealing with the legitimately mentally ill.


I think so. Shall we make a usergroup to discuss how this should be put together?


Excellent, we finally have a constructive suggestion. Thank you mate. I'm worried that a user group/discussion group would just get bogged down in committee meetings. I'm hoping that if we keep this thread active, and it gains enough traction in the cramped and finite thread/fora marketplace. We might see some action from our lords and masters, those whom to we remit our hard earned.

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:39 am
by The Voice
You didn't change josko's name either...

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:52 am
by BoganGod
The Voice wrote:You didn't change josko's name either...

Oops, well am thankful that in my experience members of Kort are balanced even headed folk, who don't mind being used in hypothetical examples. Well spotted mate. So have you an opinion on the topic of the thread?

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:59 am
by HardAttack

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:02 pm
by Shannon Apple
The mentally ill are not CCs problem. If they cause shit for other users, they should be removed in the same manner as the non-mentally ill who thinks it's hilarious to troll. TinkyWinky has only been silenced by surgical removal of his/her balls, tounge... I dunno what exactly was done? I still see TinkyWinky around every once in a while making shifty eyes at passers by.

Hilarious post though. Haha!

Also, why does everyone, including me, pick on Bruceswar? :P

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:08 pm
by fishydance
Shannon Apple wrote:Also, why does everyone, including me, pick on Bruceswar? :P


Because it's so much fun!! :lol:

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:14 pm
by Shannon Apple
fishydance wrote:
Shannon Apple wrote:Also, why does everyone, including me, pick on Bruceswar? :P


Because it's so much fun!! :lol:

Ehehehehe! :mrgreen:

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:43 pm
by HardAttack


i want your g-string your high heels and your mini-cooper Genoke ;)

this time, i am saying PLEASEEE !!!

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:03 pm
by Genoke
HardAttack wrote:

i want your g-string your high heels and your mini-cooper Genoke ;)

this time, i am saying PLEASEEE !!!

The g-string and my high heels you can get, but the mini-cooper you have to ask Mr. Bean! :D

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:40 pm
by BoganGod
I think we pick on Bruce because he/she is a good sport. Bruce's sincerity makes for an easy mark. Funny stuff folks. Disappointed no one is taking this seriously. I hope we can think seriously about this. Crazy good appears to be fine, but how about crazy bad? No one wants to discuss that.

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:35 am
by fishydance
BoganGod wrote:I think we pick on Bruce because he/she is a good sport. Bruce's sincerity makes for an easy mark. Funny stuff folks. Disappointed no one is taking this seriously. I hope we can think seriously about this. Crazy good appears to be fine, but how about crazy bad? No one wants to discuss that.


Mental Health issues can neither be diagnosed or treated here, even by those who are health care professionals. All that can be done is moderate forums consistently, using policies set by the owners of this site. Anything more than that is well beyond the scope of an online gaming site.

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:43 am
by Bruceswar
BoganGod wrote:I think we pick on Bruce because he/she is a good sport. Bruce's sincerity makes for an easy mark. Funny stuff folks. Disappointed no one is taking this seriously. I hope we can think seriously about this. Crazy good appears to be fine, but how about crazy bad? No one wants to discuss that.



What if I am both? LOL j/k I am not.. I am a male..

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:12 am
by BoganGod
Bruceswar wrote:
BoganGod wrote:I think we pick on Bruce because he/she is a good sport. Bruce's sincerity makes for an easy mark. Funny stuff folks. Disappointed no one is taking this seriously. I hope we can think seriously about this. Crazy good appears to be fine, but how about crazy bad? No one wants to discuss that.



What if I am both? LOL j/k I am not.. I am a male..


:lol: :lol: If you were both Freakns would be on the next plane over. Carrying both a bunch of flowers, and a box of beer.

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:26 am
by BoganGod
fishydance wrote:
BoganGod wrote:I think we pick on Bruce because he/she is a good sport. Bruce's sincerity makes for an easy mark. Funny stuff folks. Disappointed no one is taking this seriously. I hope we can think seriously about this. Crazy good appears to be fine, but how about crazy bad? No one wants to discuss that.


Mental Health issues can neither be diagnosed or treated here, even by those who are health care professionals. All that can be done is moderate forums consistently, using policies set by the owners of this site. Anything more than that is well beyond the scope of an online gaming site.


Not suggesting that mental health issues can or should be diagnosed or treated here. Just posing question about people that have said issues, should they be treated differently? Does CC have a duty of care? I have had a few players tell me about their struggles with mental illness, including their illness affecting their gaming experience. Posting a string of over the top verbosity when one is hyper manic is unlikely to endear oneself to the community at large. Moderating forums consistently would be great if it happened. If and when this happens, would you be advocating the mentally ill be treated exactly the same as other users?

Re: The Rights(or lack there of) of the Mentally Ill

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:53 am
by fishydance
BoganGod wrote:
fishydance wrote:
BoganGod wrote:I think we pick on Bruce because he/she is a good sport. Bruce's sincerity makes for an easy mark. Funny stuff folks. Disappointed no one is taking this seriously. I hope we can think seriously about this. Crazy good appears to be fine, but how about crazy bad? No one wants to discuss that.


Mental Health issues can neither be diagnosed or treated here, even by those who are health care professionals. All that can be done is moderate forums consistently, using policies set by the owners of this site. Anything more than that is well beyond the scope of an online gaming site.


Not suggesting that mental health issues can or should be diagnosed or treated here. Just posing question about people that have said issues, should they be treated differently? Does CC have a duty of care? I have had a few players tell me about their struggles with mental illness, including their illness affecting their gaming experience. Posting a string of over the top verbosity when one is hyper manic is unlikely to endear oneself to the community at large. Moderating forums consistently would be great if it happened. If and when this happens, would you be advocating the mentally ill be treated exactly the same as other users?


Even if I believed we should treat such individuals differently, how would you determine that a player is mentally ill? Nobody here has the ability, or right, to place such a label on a person.